to know what the odds really are, senator jon tester of montana, member of both the appropriations committee and homeland security committee. senator, as such, i know you were at the hearing today on the crisis on the border and the emergency legislation to try to handle it. thanks for being with us tonight to help us understand what's going on in washington. >> thank you, rachel. >> it does seem improbable to me, given congressional politics right now, that president obama is going to get what he's asking for in terms of surging resources to deal with this situation on the border. what is your sense of it? >> well, i'm very hopeful that we'll be able to take his proposal and justify it and make sure it does what it needs to do to handle some 60,000 kids, most of them from the age of 14 to 18, on the border. look, we've got a big problem. we cannot ignore it like we've ignored the highway trust fund and like we've ignored immigration reform and like we've ignored so many things...