before.
>>> joining us is john stanton
from buzzfeed.
>> good to be here.
>> i was amazed to go back and
see the comparison to 1987 with
the pressure the catholic
bishops were putting on reagan
then and the pressure put by
advocates and catholic bishops
and others on president obama
now.
that is so parallel.
what seems very, very different
is the other side of it.
what seems very different is the
character of the anti-immigrant
lobby.
i guess i have to ask if that
squares with what you're seeing
with this furor over the
prospect of immigration reform
in washington.
>> to a certain degree, yes.
a bit of it, though, also is
just the general really just
distaste for president obama on
the republican side.
he can be doing almost anything
on a unilateral or executive
basis and republicans would
probably get outraged.
they have this sort of pending
lawsuit about executive orders
that's been nebulous.
maybe it's obama care.