and one of them, i think, is joni ernst, the new new york senator from iowa who is every bit as crazy as palin is but a lot smarter, and at least a u.s. senator. whereas mrs. palin has nod held public office for six years or so. people like her and ben carson who is also crazy, but at least is a medical doctor. but she's been pushed off the stage by people who appeal more to the republican base at this particular moment. >> so what is it that the republican dna that they're drawn to people that you just described? >> that's a really excellent question. i think part of it is the martyr status. that think think by supporting people who are criticized in the mainstream media, even if they're legitimately criticized for saying stupid things wrong things, that this is somehow