not just democratic control of congress but just the kind of thing that would be needed to enact that kind of agenda. >> mika and i interviewed jeb bush a couple weeks ago in south carolina. we're stunned by his breadth of knowledge on domestic issues but surprisingly on foreign policy issues. i'm curious, what did you not see in jeb bush that you saw in marco rubio? because certainly i think you probably agree with me nobody in the field -- in the republican field seems to have the breadth of only in that jeb brings into every interview he has. >> i would agree with that. we had a great meeting with governor bush. i would agree he has that knowledge and i think iowans are seeing that when they get a chance to listen to him they do see that. but he doesn't seem to have enough time to capture that kind