friday, i'm betty nguyen. "morning joe" live from washington starts right now. >> i know you had a meeting this week. >> i did. >> i had a meeting with great people, great hispanic leaders and there certainly can be a softening. i don't think it's a softening. >> but 11 million people are going to be deported. >> where is the softening? >> oh, there's softening. even to see there is really quite a bit of softening. >>> it's just so confusing. softening. >> it goes. >> hardening. softening. >> softening. hardening. >> good morning, everyone. >> i'm saying. what is it? it's either one or the either. >> itser definitely not a firm stance. >> i think because it's going to be -- >> there's just nothing firm about it. it's just one day he's here and one day he's there. >> i heard he is called amnesty