>> i'm looking, actually, at north carolina. i'm sorry to agree with rachel. this is where the clinton campaign, i think, has the vast majority of their focus right now. they think it's going to be potentially late into the night. it is kind of the fulcrum of so many different issues, whether it's kind of the culture wars, there's just so much going on there. and it's going to tell us what might happen, say, in georgia. this is really kind of the new democratic map runs through the south, runs through north carolina, runs through georgia. and it's moving away from ohio and pennsylvania. >> steve schmidt, same question? >> looking at florida, looking at north carolina, i think we have really clear indications of a direction of the night once we have a little bit more data from those states coming in. >> north carolina right now, obviously, president obama was able to win north carolina once, but not twice. i'm not sure that the republican party effort this year took the lessons of...