>> i certainly can't comment on any of those cases, either what has been released in the indictment you referred to or elsewise. but we have an important obligation to perform countersbleblcounte counterintelligence is protecting the secrets that america steals from somebody stealing them back fruom us. and there have been failures. failures not only within the last couple of years but failures before that. we need to redouble our efforts. it's tough. you now have not only nation states trying to steal our stuff, but folks like wikileaks out there trying to steal american secrets for the sole purpose of undermining the united states and democracy. >> this is a hundred-year problem. >> it's not new. >> it's going to get -- it goes back a hundred years, but the technology is going to turn it into a constant battle. how are you as the new director, you were on the house intel committee for a number of years before you came over, so you were aware of this, how are you trying to change the...