here is a account that he had with justin trudeau. >> nice guy, good looking guy comes in, donald, we have to trade deficit. because everybody else we are getting killed and i said, no, justin, i didn't even know. i had no idea. [ inaudible ]. well, sir, you're actually right. we have no deficit. but that doesn't include energy and timber. [ inaudible ] so what do you do with the $17 billion a year.