those moments mattered and we're still sorting through which ones meant the most tom people. i'll tell you that moment with amy klobuchar, first of all has stood out and has gotten a lot of people talking about how she handled it and how that might bode well for whatever ambitions she has in the future. i think that a lot of the women -- i've not spend to lisa murkowski or susan collins about this but i've spoken to other women senators who watched that happened and were just absolutely blown away by the audacity that it took. i think for many of us women who are sometimes having conversations in public with men, you know, we're familiar with the phenomenon and for somebody who was trying to stlit a -- it is there and convince america he's someone that looks out for women was not a good look. >> it really would have been, i think, far better for him, if he had done that to dick durbin or done that to pat leahy or done that to a man. no. wasn't a good look, especially since amy...