conduct during the interview aligns with mr. trump's dim view of federal law enforcement. joining our conversation from "the new york times," mike schmidt. and karine jean-pierre, senior adviser to moveon.org. take us through what you're reporting based on this filing from flynn's lawyers last night. >> so the filing came right after the government had said itself that it was asking for probation. so it was sort of stuck out at us that his lawyers went this far because flynn basically has the government on his side. he doesn't need to go any further than that. but they did. they really tried to portray flynn as being taken advantage of. that he wasn't really sure what was going on around him. that he had not been told by the fbi agents that if he made false statements he could get into trouble. they made it seem like it was much more of an inform at meeting than an interview. and it does play into conservative theorys about the investigation. conservatives have long said, including...