with that, i'd like to bring in democratic congressman donald mceachin of virginia. congressman, two years later, your reflections on two years ago and where you think we are today. have we made any progress? have we moved forward? or are we where we were two years ago? >> two years ago, reverend, was horrible. by the way, thank you for allowing me to come on your show. but to be honest with you, rev, i think we're moving backwards. i think things are worse now than they were two years ago as we witnessed these mass shootings and in a weekend as we witnessed the proliferation of guns all across our country. >> when we look at the open hate, the open anti-semitism, "jews will not replace us." all kinds of things being said openly and loudly. and the fact that they were rallying to preserve the statue of a confederal general who was