depended on whistleblowers. chuck grassley used to stand up for whistleblowers all the time. where is he now? is the so-called whistleblower caucus going to get engaged and get the facts? >> especially since president trump has already labeled them as partisan, which we don't know that he knows who the person is. >> we're not in ideal circumstances, the most of the obvious thing in the world. what i mean is, this whistleblower's identity, i'm not sure it can be protected now. it's not the press's fault, it's not anybody's fault, but the fact that the trump administration mishandled this thing the way it did. we don't know what the whistleblower thinks, but the reporting is they want to testify. >> wants to speak to congress. >> wants to speak to congress. does that person believe there's a way for that to happen and not have their identity known? if they think that, they're