consider anything but threatening. we have that brand-new audio just released from the "los angeles times." >> basically, that person never saw the report, never saw the call, heard something and decided that he or she -- i want to know who's the person who gave the whistle-blower, who's the person who gave the whistle-blower the information? because that's close to a spy. you know what we use to do in the old days with spies and treason. we used to handle it a little differently than we do now.