mean when mike bloomberg is really in the race, instead of being a tv commercial. and the other thing i want to say is the overwhelming feeling i get on all the other issues is dread, uncertainty. what's going to happen next with my health care. what's going to happen next, what's the next lunacy to come down the pike. what's the next bunch of e-mails, nobody's got their feet under them right now, and i think they're going to wind up because of that seeing a lot of people throwing punches in the dark because it makes them feel safe. >> the thing that this -- the opposite of 2008 in that in 2008, there was excitement, and anticipation and people believed therm going to win. all -- they were going to win. all i hear around this country is dread. thank you for being here. it was great to meet you. really appreciate it. britney packnet cunningham, charlie pierce and erin haynes, stick around for our next hour. the political sage who predicted 2018's big blue wave tells us what to expect...