joyce, you are not prone to saying things that are designed to fear monger, but this is different. this is the united states justice department which we all understand is a branch of the executive. but what we have not understood until this last week and maybe we should have but we have not understood the degree to which bill barr is acting like donald trump's attorney general as opposed to the attorney general of the united states. >> i think that's right, ali. although the "time" article is not mine, i share those sentiments. i think the important thing for people to understand is that there should never be any politically motivated interference in the criminal justice system. the president can't use criminal prosecutions as a political tool to punish his perceived enemies and to help his friends. and the concern here is that is what we're seeing with this doj and it's worth pointing out that something that prosecutors take enormous care with is to avoid not just improper actions,...