>> as i said earlier, this is the biggest response by congress ever and the fastest and the biggest from us. and, still, this is the biggest shock we have seen in living memory. and the question looms in the air of, is it enough? >> senator sherrod brown, meanwhile. >> how many workers should give their lives to increase the gdp or dow jones by a thousand points? >> no workers should do that, mr. senator, and i think your characterization is unfair. >> for more, i'm joined by stephanie ruhle. nbc correspondent and ben white, "politico" correspondent and host of the podcast. exactly the two people i want to talk this all over with. ben, let me start with you. two sort of main characters today. i want to start with you. mnuchin. we just heard a little of what he had to say there. but his message, it seemed the message he wanted to deliver here had to do with reopening the economy. obviously, that's the president's preferred message on this. mnuchin talking about the risk