have the power to pass these popular bills. for more i'm joined by amy klobuchar of minnesota. you used to be a skeptic about getting rid of the filibuster -- >> a wise and thoughtful senator. i was just listening to senator thune's words. so go on. >> yeah, sorry about that. i didn't mean to step on you. you used to be skeptical, but you've made a hard turn on that. what triggered your change of heart a that. >> i think it was the winter that senator thune referred to that we have not been ability to get anything major done, short of a natural disaster when we have the pandemic upon us. then make people scurry, scrum together and get things done, but we have major, major issues before us. one of them, it would be the first time, thanks to senator warnock and senator ossoff and their wins in georgia, we'll have the gavel and we'll have a hearing, i am, on the rules