attorney. charles booker, former kentucky state representative, cedric alexander, former chief of police in rochester, new york and dekalb, georgia and former task force member for president obama. let me read, the town of windsor, virginia's statement on the traffic stop. the investigation began immediately. at the conclusion it was termed the windsor police department policy was not followed. this resulted in disciplinary action of department wide requirements for additional training were implemented beginning of january. it notes that the officer was terminated. it is hard to even know where to begin here. i'm going with you, chief alexander. i don't know how you strain -- train people to be not authoritarian and not aggressive. this is not a training problem. this isn't a problem with training, strikes me as a problem hiring people that don't have maturity to be police. >> both incidents is not a