legislation with our panel. sarah mcbride made history in 2020, becoming the first openly transgender state senator in u.s. history. she serves in delaware. raquel willis is a transgender activist and writer. state representative brian sims was the first openly gay men elected in that state's history. and we have associate editor at nbc. they've been extensively covering this legislation over the past several months. raquel, i want to talk about these sports bans at first that have been passed now in several states. the lawmakers pushing this legislation, they argue it's about fairness, saying that transgender girls have an unfair advantage. but we've reached out to all the governors who signed these bills to ask if they could name any examples in their state, one example of someone with an unfair advantage. no one has provided us with any of these examples. so, in your mind, what's going on here? >> yes. well, i think it's clear that they are trying to make a problem out of no...