time to get the votes in congress to pass chairwoman maxine waters' bill to have this moratorium go through december 31st. >> mike barnicle. congresswoman, not that long ago in my life, i confronted being unable to pay rent, years ago, so i have great sympathy for people on the edge of being evicted. to your point the eviction ought to be extended december 31st, i suppose many people would support that, especially the renters. but my question to you is, how long can this go on? because on the other side of the story, there are landlords, not all of them big landlords, some landlords who might not be able to pay their mortgages for lack of getting their rent. so what do we do about them? >> yes. that 40 -- over $40 billion can go to them. this has already been accomplished and successful, we hear, in texas.