government interference. >> that was texas state representative donna howard today slamming her state's near total ban on apportion at a senate judiciary hearing on that law and on the controversial use of the supreme court's shadow docket. it was the shadow docket that allowed the texas law to go into the books depriving texas women of their reproductive liberties. the court's use of the shadow docket has raised concerns over the politicization of the court even among some republicans. lisa murkowski saying quoegs i worry a great deal about it. the world needs to trust that the judiciary will be that independent unbiased check. joining us senator mazie hirono of hawaii. matt dowd is still here. you have had a busy week. tell me about this hearing. >> it was to shine a light on the weaponization of the shadow docket by this supreme court,