>> you know, she's been in the business, you can tell. >> yeah, for like four years. jonathan, here is part of your interview with mitch mcconnell. >> you are known for playing a ruthless style of politics. where do you draw your moral red lines? >> i didn't realize i was known for playing a ruthless. my wife thinks i'm a really nice guy. my kids like me. i got a lot of friends. >> that's four so far. okay. >> i'm shocked to hear such a comment. >> let's just take as a premise, and i think the audience might agree with me, that there are some people, maybe some substantial people in this country who might agree with that assertion. >> i'm sure you could find some who could. >> moral red lines, where do you draw them? >> i'm perfectly comfortable with the way i have conducted my political career and i would be happy to respond to any specificity you want to apply to the term -- what was it? >> moral red lines. >> moral red line. yeah, i'm very comfortable with my moral red line. >> let...