get more favorable loans and then deflated those valuations in order to pay less in taxes. the former president has gone up against the new york attorney general before. trump university case is what i'm thinking of. he settled. what's the likelihood that this is going to go to trial? >> we're not there yet. she hasn't brought suit yet. so first she has to build a case and then i think there is a fairly high likelihood if she does that he would in some way settle. in could have severe consequences for him. there could be fines and it could impair his ability to do business in new york. it's not a small matter. that said, compared to all of these criminal investigations, it is, i'm sure, more important it is, i'm sure, more important to