democrats have been trying to make for a long time. >> making the case for tax fairness. >> that's the argument he could make and say, look, i benefitted from this system. the system is imbalanced, it's not fair, and as president of the united states, i want to make sure it's fair for everyone. >> but michael, he doesn't do that. the plan he has -- >> i'm just saying that's what he should do. >> it wants to gut the right kind of taxation. you need a jobs program. mitt romney doesn't have one. you need a plan to change the trade policy of the party. you need to rebuild labor in this country. bain was not about job creation. it was about wealth creation, and you see it in the arrogance of mitt romney. >> there's nothing wrong with that. everybody is criminalizing offshoring and the tax system unless again, there was something that was done that was wrong or illegal, he played by the books. >> then why doesn't he release the tax returns? you called for those, too. >> there you go. that's...