debate over because virtual currencies is perhaps newer for you sure than in california's silicon valley where miguel francis santiago has been topping the mood for all things crypto with tech guru guy kawasaki and also the look into the future of flying taxis controlled by black chain technology. welcome shorty's krypto him coming out of the silicon valley detention easily this nationalization conference in the world. we speak to the valley forefathers of venture capitalism and of course the new kids on the block crypto and this guy kawasaki a silicon valley guru he was the apple employee originally responsible for marketing the macintosh computer line in one thousand nine hundred four along with steve jobs so what does silicon valley think of blushing the new kid on the block let's get dicey on crypto do you believe in it do you think it's something tangible like three in the old fashioned sense you create value and you get rewarded right