another independence push what is left reads next moves and what does it all mean for europe will i ask spain's former foreign minister may get. reeling from a catalan secession catastrophe madrid is watching over the rest of the provinces where independence voice is still ringing loud despite a crackdown on separatist leaders will the new kind of government continue on a course of confrontation on the spanish prime minister afford to restore catalan autonomy and how does this impact on the rest of europe. he laughing when i think us thank you very much for being our guest today it's a pleasure well it's a brother of mine all right so want to start with because it's back in the spotlight again the new capital and. leader mr torres very pro independence and he offered dialogue to spanish prime minister he wants madrid to return the autonomy to catalonia and stop direct rule from it i mean what are the chances while qatar or the hispanics will be our always a spain i mean we have