below and welcome to cross talk we're all things are considered peter lavelle are china in the u.s. in training and game the battle lines have been drawn and demands made in this trade war it appears both sides are preparing for the long home what does it mean to win a trade war what does it mean to lose and how far could this escalate. crosstalk in the trade war i'm joined by my guest fred tang in new york he is president of the american china public affairs institute and we cross to james bradley he is a new york times number one best selling author of among others flags of our fathers and the china mirage rules in effect that means you can jump in anytime you want and i always appreciate it when you go to fred 1st in new york well it's been months and months now we've been talking about a trade war i don't know if that's the appropriate term i'm more concerned with something much more broader than that is a cold war. that pits the united states against china and when i mean cold...