funding. let's move on to sandy from new american media. how have these problems facing the mainstream set affected the ethnic media community and the jobs for ethnic journalists? >> ethnic media has been tremendously affected by the drop in advertising. it is embedded in the audience that service. -- that it serves. as mainstream media went into retreat, it had to expand. more people are looking to it for information and news. the audience has grown by 16% over the past five years. it is in the same situation of having to do more with less. the remarkable fact, i think