of catch what happens in planning because they can -- they may have helped the plan for god knows how long before they handed it to us and i think we should be commended for the people checking the plan. i think we are doing a very good job, but again, we need it handed to us, how is it handed to us. it would be nice to have some reportage on that because i think sometimes the pressure we feel from the clients or from the developers is because they walk in to our building, there are various city departments there, but we are the catch all i think at the end of the day. it's the building department that they feel is responsible for all their permits whether that's true or not. i know that is a long winded question. >> it's called a building permit, though. we get it at the end of the process we are the ones that collect the money but we are at the end of the