about the world they live in. i know jacob soboroff is down on the floor. jacob, what can you tell us? >> a really interesting feeling down here on the floor as everyone listens to alicia keys. it was almost the feeling during the speech, i was standing between the illinois and arkansas delegations over there, two places that definitely got smo shoutouts from bill clinton, it almost had a feel they were listening to an old friend, a feeling of familiarity to it. >> all right, jacob, thank you. >> let's go back -- >> this is my 24th convention. i don't ever remember at the end of an evening like this, i just hated it. they're obviously all jacked up. this is why they're here. >> it's the audience at home that clearly the campaign cares about. >> that's what you have to be thinking about. and also looking forward, these debates are going to be the super bowl of international politics. when the two of them go head to head without an audience to cheer them on or a band playing in the...