architecture and it is not pre-written and i don't know the end of this movie now. all i know is that what is happening in kosovo is of tremendous importance not only to the people of kosovo-- although they are the primary ones concerned-- but also to the future of the atlantic alliance and america's role in europe. >> we didn't try to tell milosevic, you know, you have to be interested in peace. he would say "you don't do this and i guarantee you europe is going to squeeze the hell out of your continuery. you're going to pay and you're not going to be in power. i don't care. you think you're the strongest dictator in this part of the world. it won't last." that's how he would talk to them. >> i worked with him briefly in the state department when he was assistant secretary of state and i was the emissary to cyprus, a position that he had held at one time and the people that he had around him that were his outgoings, people who were learning from him, it was incredible. he was always...