historic church have work with the community from emanuel ame church in charleston. let's get to lauren johnson, liver with the senior pastor. >> good morning to you, mike, alex, here with mark tyler. you got the news late last night. describe the phonecall you got. >> i was young of the pastors here in philadelphia, gist heard about shooting at ame church in charleston, mother emanuel, which immediately really hit me because that congregation is so close to ours. >> and you know the pastor there very well. describe him to people who don't know him. >> well, reverend pinkny was one of the just he is if not the youngest person elected to the house of representatives, went onto serve in the senate where he was active, dynamic preacher, great person, just unbelievable, one of the nicest people that you would ever meet. and to think he is in politics, you didn't get the sense that were you talking to a politician. just real a genuine person. >> you said you interviewed him billion a year...