to emma smith after joseph smith dies polygamy was where his vision fell. suffered immensely for the cause but polygamy was a sore spot. brigham young were presented to emma the worst of the tradition. he takes joseph smith's a wives, seals to them as a way to inherit joseph smith's mantle. i speculate he might have made a similar proposal as the way he does, emma and brigham end of having a falling out. that is an understatement. they hate each other. when brigham young leaves, he explicitly tells the mormons none of you are to invite emma to go with them. emma is like that is cool and she wants to say so when they leave in the like most of us try to remember the best, and she would rather imagine the joseph, the image of the joseph she cared for and that did not include that, the decision she consciously chose, that is not part of the memory of joseph. >> with regard to the constitution, anything contained in your historian lens or personal lens? >> i want god in charge of everything. what do we find in the mormon constitution that might be but replicable

[smith] that's right. [clemens] but, the contact guys because of the proximity of the ball parks, the biggest foul territories, oakland's colosseum. so, if you make a really good pitch and the guy tries to, you know, guys are so good in the big leagues with their bats. i tell people, it doesn't matter how hard you throw, guys in the big leagues can put wood on a bullet, i mean, they're that good. and they will foul off a very tough pitch, you're hoping it doesn't go in the first or second row, so your pitch count goes up, so you gotta be careful with that, too. especially, how hard they're watching pitch counts now, as you alluded to earlier. you not gonna see to many complete games anymore. and that was, in our generation, i saw the pitching coach come to take me outf the game, i'm giving him the worst look that you could ever see. [smith] well, the fact is i think you still hold the record, do you not, for the most complete games in a season? 18 complete games in, [clemens] i don't know that. [smith] no,

none were more adamant than joseph smith's own brother hiram smith. when rumors start seeping out in 1841 they have a moral crusade as rampant sexual improprieties in the city. they know as the high council. and as high council is operating at that same time that joseph smith is doing his polygamist activity. they try to shore up morals. heading towards a crisis. when hiram finally confirms that. it was the principal they now embrace. in fact shortly after he takes it. sorry to break it to you guys. they either head wives or daughters who have been secretly sealed. a number of men in that meeting when they break the news to them that core group of men becomes the core of a new resistance movement within nauvoo. they eventually create their own church. in their own dissenting newspaper. it's when those walls are crumbling around them. in march of 1844. it's another one i wish i have more time to delve into. the walls collapsing and a need for more radical intervention. and that's when they created the council as well. we get these two trajectories lead

none saw more adamant than joseph smith's brother. when the rumors of polygamy start seeping out in 1841, he leads a crusade to him about what he saw rampant improprieties in the cities known as the high council and the high council was operating at the same time joseph smith is doing his polygamist activities so you get these two brothers, joseph smith and the expert hands trying to shore up the traditional morals heading towards a crisis. when he finally converts to polygamy in may 1843 in an instantaneous and in some ways confusing although i could talk about some reasons why i think he did so, when he converts to polygamy, he already created a machine to eradicate the principle that he now races. shortly after he converts, he takes the doctrine of polygamy to the high council of the vehicle he has been using and says sorry to break it to you guys, but this is news that the left. by the way, three of the men serving on the high council had either wives or daughters that had been into this might have been news to them. in that meeti

smith: absolutely. that is the result of folks staying at home, and teleworking, like we are doing with our nab staff. and people want that local component as well as the national components. both of which broadcasting brings. they want the facts. they get them from broadcasting like no other source. peter: let's bring jonathan make, the editor of "communications daily." jonathan: please to be here. senator smith, we have spoken before including on the show, but during more normal times. one thing of wanted to ask you is what are the precautions and different steps that your members are taking now whether it is internally, work from home as we mentioned at the association, or whether there are changes they are making in programming and such? sen. smith: what is interesting is that broadcasters are also people who live their local communities and they are trying to be good citizens. our members at abc or cbs or nbc or fox are heeding the warnings coming from the cdc and the white house about ways that we

creech never intended to kill gavin smith.case of self-defense. >> he had to defend himself against this intruder, an intruder into his marriage. >> reporter: and, she said, only one person could tell that story. >> who is the first witness you are going to call on behalf of the defendant? >> my client, john creech. >> reporter: his attorney began asking him about that meeting with gavin's son. >> at any point did you tell them you were going to kill their father? >> no, that's absurd. >> reporter: two years later when it happened, he and chandy were separated. though they lived in the same house. he still worried about her, thought she might be drink and driving. so he installed an app on his phone that allowed him to track her phone and followed her because he was worried, then he saw her car parked near gavins and thought it best to talk to them. he didn't sneak up on them, he said. >> so i knock on the hood of the car. >> was chandy sitting on the lap of this guy? >> sitting on his lap, they just kept talking. i walked ove

shoah foundation, and his wife and colleague heather maio smith, were running the project. >> smith: "where're you going?" "oh, well, i've got to go new york. i'm going to d.c." "when are you gonna go to d.c.? i'm going to d.c." turns out we were going to the same event in d.c. i arrive at my hotel she's sitting in the lobby, waiting for me. >> stahl: when eva, on the right, and her twin sister miriam arrived at auschwitz, they were pulled away from their parents and older sisters and taken to a barrack full of twins. they never saw their family again. "60 minutes" reported on mengele's twin experiments in a story back in 1992, and we actually interviewed the living eva kor at her home in terre haute. eva told us then about becoming extremely sick after an injection. >> kor: mengele came in every morning and every evening, with four other doctors. and he declared, very sarcastically, laughing, "too bad. she's so young. she has only two weeks to live. when i heard that, i knew he was right and i immediately made a silent pledge that i would prove you, dr. mengele, wrong. >> stahl: ima

penny smith, the interesting point is that when boris johnson penny smith, the interesting point is thatsjohnson was away, we we re is that when borisjohnson was away, we were told that the cabinet could get by without a prime minister and that no one needs to take these big decisions and that everyone gets on. but it turns out those big decisions can't be put off forever. eventually, the point of a prime minister is to take a difficult decision, so boris johnson minister is to take a difficult decision, so borisjohnson will face that on his first day back. absolutely, and i think up until now, there has been this feeling that everybody has been backing off and not wanting to make big decisions, and they are big decisions. after all, when we look at the numberof decisions. after all, when we look at the number of dead, it does not include care homes and hospices and those who have died at home. so that could bring it to possibly even double. 0ne could bring it to possibly even double. one of the other papers, there is a comment from a government source saying that now that boris johnson

i would like to start for iain duncan smith, picking up start for iain duncan smith, picking up on thatise and delivery, do you think that the government could have done a lot more to make the testing for care workers and nhs medical staff easier in terms of access? well, i think the point that was made and it is the point is that really stands in all of this is that for the uk to ramp up the scale of testing has been a monumental effort and it is important that... but germany has an enormous diagnostic, they export diagnostics round the world and people like britain have relied on upper time. the reality here is that as the government ramps up here is that as the government ramps up the hundred thousand, the real point is that i don't think is going to be tests available, the point is going to be how do we get people to those tests that needs to be tested and that means they are going to have to have many many more access points in towns, villages, all the area where there are care homes, they need to have something in reasonable striking distance that they can get through because one

the former senator ward and smith who is president and ceo of the national association of broadcasters. senator smith we appreciate you coming into the studio for this interview. >> always a pleasure, peter. even if it is just approximate. you and jonathan. thank you for having me. >> host: in this age of coronavirus how has this affected america's broadcasters? >> guest: in many ways it has affected us but i think perhaps it's unfortunate but it seems that the united states and our citizens become aware of broadcasting indispensable, irreplaceable role in the firmament of american life when there are natural or other catastrophes and calamities that befall us because it is then that the architecture broadcasting, one source of content to everybody in a geographic area, without stress on the system people began to realize how valuable broadcasting remains and survey after survey continues to show that broadcasting remains the most important source of journalism when people just want the facts. but you know the nab since its founding in 1923 has a big tradeshow and only one other time i

for mugabe there was only one way to deal with smith we are at war with the and smith. and the war must continue and. to tell the british government and the. before you surrendered. the fighting has proper continued. to combat in smith's despotic and racist policies mugabe formed an allegiance within komo together they set their guerrilla army on smith's rhodesian security forces escalating into what became known as the rhodesian bush war farms owned by whites were attacked while civil unrest erupted in towns and cities we have tried passive resistance in the past our people got locked up our people got shot. various attempts were made by the british and americans to end the violence but talks ended in a stalemate smith refused to back down from his opposition to black majority rule there is some sign that the white traducing is willing to accept critics of an early vote to majority rule until that principle has been accepted but what would you change the british government not to. intend to take another initiative. and the photosphere united states system should be ful

a real sense that smith started something. best evidence of that is cities american cities. ,calvin coolidge carried new york city, the last republican to do so. al smith of course carried new york city, but he carried a lot of other cities as well. you had actually the makings of an early realignment. had there not been the great depression, and hoover's reputation had in fact not been destroyed during his single term of office, what is fascinating to speculate is would that break through in the south, would that have been a one-time event, attributable to al smith as an opponent, or might it in fact have foreshadowed the party system? brian: how did the great depression come about? richard: i, i cannot tell you. i cannot answer that. i think there are a lot of economists who, if they are honest would respond the same , way. there are clearly a number of factors, some of which are easily identified. i mean the dislocations of the , war. crazy quotecrazy, system, where as part of the versailles agreement, basically crushing re

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general smith signed for the supreme commend of command. the end of one of history's most massive and brilliant campaigns bright a well earned victory to a soldier known as ke eisenhower. in the pacific, in mortal combat against a frenetic foe, the army, navy and mariners were driving to a finish fight. the philippines had been won back. so had a score of other vital islands, large and small, including one called okinawa. but the kamikaze corps, the japanese pilots who rode winds to certain suicide and devastation of our ships were taking a heavy toll. on easter sunday following the pattern of invasion unleashed a half a hundred times on japanese bases, u.s. forces assaulted the island of okinawa. first the bombardment. [explosion] >> then from the fleet standing offshore, the landing craft went in. the mighty pageant of assault rolled ahead again, this time less than 400 miles from japan itself. this was the island that the japanese simply could not afford to lose. for four months they fought a desperate battle that cost them 90,000 lives.

al smith, of course, carried new york city. but he carried a lot of other cities as well. >> you had actually the makings of an early realignment. had there not been the great depression, had hoover's reputation, in effect, not been destroyed during his single term of office, what is fascinating to speculate is, would that breakthrough in the south, would that have been a one-time event, attributable, in fact, to al smith as an opponent? or might it, in fact, have foreshadowed a two-party system? >> how did the great depression come about? >> i can't tell you. i can't answer that. and it think there are a lot of economists who would, if they're honest, respond the same way. there are clearly a number of factors, some of which are easily identified. >> i mean, the dislocations of the war. we had this crazy, crazy quilt. just a - where as part of the versailles agreement, basically crushing reparations were demanded by the victors of a defeated germany, which was really in no position economically - although it had been largely u

stephen smith, founder of the smith center for infectious diseases and urban health and dr. mead oxley, cardiologist, doctor, let's start with you. i've heard from doctors and other health care workers there already prophylactic measures taking hydroxy as a way to prevent from getting the virus, is that happening it is that wise? >> i think it's happening, but i think the positions just like patients that are prescribed this need to be carefully monitored. one basic thing is to check a baseline electrocardiogram and then check another one every day or every few days to make sure that the ekg changes that could lead to sudden cardiac deaths don't occur. so those are the basic methods that we use to monitor this, but no doubt, many physicians as early as early to mid-march acquired hydroxy chloroquine and many of them in the trenches are using it in a prophylactic way on a daily basis. >> laura: dr. smith, you have new fascinating data tonight on your covid-19 patients. you have 72 of them. 21 were prediabetic at 29.2%. 34 were diabetic, that's 47.2%, and the average bmi of se

smith.t's what he's calling you, basically. >> i've called other doctors quacks, but i've never been called one. i'm stunned. i mean the scientific evidence is robust. the safety data is unbelievable. you know, people are arguing we shouldn't get hydroxychloroquine out for prophylaxis or to hoard because the lupus patients couldn't get it. and then they are saying it's not safe. is it not safe or should lupus patients get it? can't be both. of course it's safe. of course the patients do better on it. our patients do better on it and it's just data. look at the data. that's all i'm saying. we talked about risk factors for severe disease liquid talk about steroid use for using drugs like the ibuprofen. or other drugs. that's the same sort of data they're looking at. it's observational data. but if are going to make an association between the drug -- the better outcome, that's not okay. that kind of illogical approach has no place in medicine or science. it's just disgusting. >> laura: it's com

sense that smith started something. the best evidence of that cities, american cities. calvin coolidge carried new york city. the last republican to do so. al smith, of course, carried new york city but he carried a lot of other cities as well. and what's fascinating to speculate is would that break through in the south, would that have been a one time event or might it have foreshadowed. i can't tell you. i can't answer that. and i think a lot of economists if they're honest seyou had the crazy system where germany is borrowing the rest of the world owed it. but american banks were loaning money to germany, which then used the money to pay off so in addition you had a rotten bank system. there were banks speculating on the stock market. i mean there were banks doing things to positive money that would shock us today. you had wall street speculation, rank overheated, baseless, lots of people buying stock on margin, which is to say in effect they were borrowing funds and if they borrow down they'd have to sell their stoc

smith, have to start with you. were you surprised by the cdc directors just snooty response to hydroxy tonight over on cnn? >> dr. redfield response? >> laura: yes. we have the sound bite. let me play it for you and then you can react. here we go. >> would you recommend it to a patient? >> yeah. i'm not going to recommended and i'm not going to not recommended. i think you and i are very similar. my friend dr. fauci, i mean, we are very comfortable in responding when we have data. >> -- >> laura: dr. smith, go ahead, take it away. >> he's a nice guy. he's a beltway guy. he's about beltway fights about -- i'm not about that. he hasn't seen anybody with covid. my team and i have treated over 115 patients now. this drug works, they all believe it. i know at least two aren't in my team of six. it has nothing to do with politics. the death thing, it's not a democrat thing, it's not a republican thing, covid is a death thing in this drug helps. i mean, it's clear. i don't know why there is so much of this hullabaloo abou

smith, stay safe. coming up democrats are trying to figure up a new argument to push a radical agenda. welcome of vote by mail or get covid and die. congressman gaetz and hahn next. these folks, they don't have time to go to the post office they have businesses to grow customers to care for lives to get home to they use stamps.com print discounted postage for any letter any package any time right from your computer all the amazing services of the post office only cheaper get our special tv offer a 4-week trial plus postage and a digital scale go to stamps.com/tv and never go to the post office again! ♪ >> one of the most awful things i have ever seen in my life. the extent to which they'll go to, it's all about one supreme court seat. they will kill people to stay in power, literally. >> laura: joining me now is florida congressman matt gaetz and chris hahn, the host of the that was james carville here that was a lot of fearmongering there. is this a preview of how we are going to politicize this pande

stephen smith. dr.mith, do you agree that those treating covid patients, as you have, i think you're up to 200 plus patients, that you don't have time to wait for the double-blind perfect study here? >> no, i mean, if you want to do a double-blind study, then do it in the well patients. you don't do it in the patients that are being admitted to the hospital, those people are extremely ill. there's arty plenty of evidence, plenty of evidence to suggest -- that suggest proof that establishing that treatment of this population with this combination regiment -- that it works. it certainly doesn't harm people and i have data that fits with dr. mike the doctors data. is a more substantial than ours even. we are up to almost 200 patients, laura. but the exact same thing. if people are going to go bad, they go bad early. that means that something we are doing is working and the odds of that not happening and having a chance, as we discussed a long time ago are tend to the minus 27th or whatever. so we know the

stephen smith. dr.mith, do you agree that those treating covid patients, as you have, i think you are up to 200 plus patients, that you don't have time to wait for the double-blind perfect study here? >> no, if you want to do double blind studies, you don't do with the patients admitted in the hospital.pe those patients are extremely ill. there's already plenty of evidence to suggest prove establish that treatment of the population with this combination regimen designed by dr. raoul works. it certainly doesn't harm people and i have data we are almost up to 200 patients, laura. exact same thing. people go bad or go bad early, s that means something we are doing is working. the odds of that happening by chance are minus the 27th or whatever. we know the combination is changing the course of the disease and we know the french data are extremely stronger you can't ethically deny that. what would you say to the patient's family? >> how do you explain this? all the headline readers and reporters who dig thre

the epicenter at this smith d-19d pork processing plant wit of rk, employing 40,000 people across the country, forced to shut down the sioux falls plant this week. some employees say they've been worried for weeks about their health and their families'. was there a lot of fear among your co-workers? >> of course, everybody was with a lot of fear to go to work every single day. >> reporter: and so what made them go to work? >> that they don't want to lose their jobs. >> reporter: the outbreak outlining the protection of workers while maintaining the country's food chain remains secure. >> for me, one person wasn't enough to shut it down, because we have a lot of contact, you know. >> reporter: she didn't want to reveal her name, even after quitting last week, after having worked there, she says, for more than ten years. >> i was thinking that it was not a safe place to work. and especially to preseotect my family. >> reporter: what made you think it wasn't safe? >> there is no social distance. we are working all together. we are working in lines. >> reporter: one foot asmart pao feet a

leveraged version of it right now it really begs the question over if it's classical kind of adam smith and david ricardo joseph schumpeter capitalism as taught in college and grad school or if it's more of an i and randy and servile of the fittest at any and all costs by any means necessary vulture market fundamentalism that is built on increasing amounts of financial leverage and speculation versus actual manufacturing productivity and this is stand ability of a middle class i don't think it's working in the same way that it had in decades past ok it's good alexander in indianapolis i mean i think that's the point here is that i had i'm actually for capitalism ok i don't want any misunderstanding but i'm i want to work for everyone or more people than it's working for now ok because we we see you know we hear you know depending on what side of the political aisle you are you know how well the economy is doing well it's doing really well for rich people and that is undeniable when it goes a little bit further down i think it's a lot more nuanced than the talking points that you hear on

stephen smith, founder of the smith center for infectious diseases and urban health, and dr. jeff colyer, dr. smith, i want to start with you. been on a niche for many time talking about what you see day in and day out, with the therapies with what we have available. hydroxychloroquine, azithromycin and others. why is the affect is effectiveness of the drug beingg maligned or what have you? what's your theory? >> aside from may be political reasons which i could never understand, it's other issues. one, it's not a drug we are familiar with. infectious disease doctors are not familiar with hydroxychloroquine which is not a traditional antibiotic. it affects the host's -- i know it's effective from our data. that's the first time we've even attempted to affect the host may be other than interferon to actually affect host cell metabolism with a small molecule to help fight the infection. it's unheard of. we are not familiar with it. it's a very unusual drug. it takes seven months for it to reach a steady state. the 7400 milligrams does being used by a lot of american physicians

that was senator tina smith from minnesota., we have more my interview with speaker of the house, nancy pelosi. this as "balance of power." ♪ ♪ welcome back to "balance of power." i am david westin. earlier i spoke to speaker of the house nancy pelosi and one thing i ask is issue sure they would be able to pass the bill that is coming out of the senate? soth. pelosi: we will do so in a bipartisan way. nothing extraordinary about how we will vote. andill take a recorded vote the senate had unanimous consent. few senatorsded a to be there. quorum need to have a and majority to get past but we will. david: an awful lot in this bill. billion toike $370 replenish the ppe program. andbillion for hospitals $25 billion for testing. what is not in the bill you think still needs to be done? soth. pelosi: let me just say how pleased i am with what is in the bill and . two weeks ago the secretary of the treasury called me and said he needed a quarter of a trillion dollars and 48 hours. that would mean, by tomorrow, the republican leader we

right now we haven't seen a report from smith field or any confirmation from smith field that they are ready to reopen. my hope is that they're taking the measures to reopen shortly. the cdc was on the ground here last week, preparing a report for them that they received. it outlined a bevy of recommendations they need to lock at implementing in the plan. but ordering them to open and open in short fashion, while i want them open more than anyone, we need to make sure it can open safely for those employees that need to go back there. >> i wanted to have you on after reading your comments on. you want them open now, but safely. you struggled with this as a republican and being in line with some of what the governor has thought in terms of independence of decisions by individuals but all these case and deaths, you thought it was beyond time for them to close. i just read that cdc record and 11 of the 15 pages outline 100 suggested safety changes. they talk about 30 people in a room in a break room at a given time, they talk about now having touchless sanitizer dispensers. those are recom

iain duncan smith is back with us.some talk about may government works more closely with opposition, maybe not going so far as a unity government but nevertheless leaning across the aisle in a new way. the labour party's new leader, what do you make of that? course, the government will be consulting in the normal process in the circumstances, and they are doing that. a newis a leader -- leader now who is more collegiate and less extreme. that will make it easier, but i don't believe the government believes we are required to have a national government. government is handling this the best and a government can. covid-19 is brand-new. we now know the chinese suppressed early information about it. i hugely believe because of their failure to recognize and be open about this early on, but we are still moving forward in how best to handle this. the u.k. is tracking with most of the other countries -- spain seems to be worse. think there will be a national government. i think the government is handling this all right. tom: w

chris smith. if eve ryo ne top of the virus. chris smith.l workers because they are the only ones travelling. why haven't the number of confirmed cases and hospitalisations not plummeted ? number of confirmed cases and hospitalisations not plummeted? the graphs we are shown at the daily briefings don't indicate a clear decrease of hospital admission, nor do they show a clear decrease of infection in every area of the uk. does this mean the lockdown is not having a substantial effect? when you see numbers climbing, that is an increasing rate. when you see the numbers staying the same, as in each day it is 1000 people not 2000 3000, that means you have changed the rate of growth. actually, we are seeing a decrease, or at least a flattening of those succumbing to this, and the number of people going hospital. we have quite significantly change the course of the disease. the numbers are coming down, but there are things to consider. 0ne down, but there are things to consider. one of them is that not eve ryo ne consider. one of them is that not e

smith: no, not really. guess if we could've equipped them with vials of malaria serum, they would have gladly taken them, but that might have been a little bit beyond our capability. if they get sick, yes. they are taking the gospel. they are sharing the gospel. that is what it is. missionary work tended to be a little more gospel centered, bible centered, then humanitarian centered. we will get to humanitarians in a minute. that is a good question. anybody else? now you know somebody in rhodesia. what happens after they have ,een gone a year or 18 months if you are in a church, you know this. they come by and have a bunch of stories to tell. you have dinner on wednesday night and you listen to them. it goes on and on, and they have a powerpoint presentation or the 1890's version of a powerpoint presentation. here is a sketch i made of the village. then, you could be a missionary, too. they still need help. this is going on all over the country. suddenly you have -- i don't hundredw the number, thousand, on

andrew smith spokesman for the campaign against the arms trade thank you all for joining us peter to you 1st of all do you see a main driver in this increase in spending the. increase in spending is driven by a wide variety of courses depending on region to region. contrary to country but of course as the united states is by far the largest military spending in the world it's always important to live there and there i think we can say that it's true but ministration in particular is really seeing a return to the great power rivalries of the past and believes that military spending military capability is an important foreign policy tool there now of course we see something similar in china there it is not so much a return to being a very large spender but to actually having an economy that has growth over many years to the point that it can actually now be the 2nd largest military spender in the world and leaving the others except for us of course far behind them so very different reasons but still kind of connected and then of course we look elsewhere in the world in europe we see a

nearly 2 weeks those your headlines and that's my lot for today thank you for your company bernard smith has got the latest edition of inside story next. worldwide military spending is at its highest for 10 years where is all that money going on might government change the priorities with the coronavirus scripts this is inside story. hello welcome to the program. now it's often said that war is good for business conflicts drive up demand for weapons defense equipment and soldiers and it appears last year was a bumpy year the stockholm international peace research institute says global military spending grew to nearly 2 trillion dollars that's a more than 7 percent increase over 10 years but the trend may change as the coronavirus pandemic devastates the world's economies 5 countries account for more than 60 percent of the world's military expenditure the us is by far the world's largest spender at $732000000000.00 that's more than a 3rd of the global military budget china is in 2nd place a $261000000000.00 up 5 percent from 2018 india is 3rd a $71000000000.00 it's the 1st time to asian n

dot com and back with more news in half an hour next on al-jazeera it's inside story with bernard smith do stay with us. the number of corona virus cases is still rising in europe but some countries are already easing lockdowns is it too soon and how can we deal with the risk of a 2nd wave of infection this is inside story. hello welcome to the program i'm bernard smith measures to stop the spread of coronavirus are affecting the lives of billions around the world shops closed public gatherings and travel a severely restricted europe accounts for heart of the 2000000 cases recorded worldwide but some countries are easing the lockdowns saying the rate of new infections appears to be stabilising health experts have warned that lifting the restrictions too soon may lead to a 2nd wave of infections the e.u. is urging its member states to carefully coordinate their plans germany has the 4th highest number of cases behind the u.s. spain and italy but its death toll is much lower chancellor angela merkel says some small shops can reopen next week but schools won't resume until early may bars a

stephen smith, director of the smith center of infectious diseases and urban health joined me now. dr. smith, from your medicine cabinet member. you told us night after night the promising results, to say the least, that you and doctors all over the country are seeing with hydroxychloroquine mixed with azithromycin. what is fauci saying here, really? >> what he saying, laura that is we do not have controlled randomized trials, that's true, but we have plenty of diseases including the disease that dr. wolf and dr. fauci got famous for, they developed a treatment for it in the ' 70s and '80s and save lives. if memory serves in the annals of 1973, they didn't use -- he was not rabbit randomized. it was not controlled. i'm not blaming them. i believe they did great work in the treatment did work. but this is the data we have. and we build up on experience. the experience that we have had treating patients with a combination of hydroxychloroquine and azithromycin is that the data accumulated, and if you get to it, the more you are on it, the better your chances of being intubated or on

smith is documented in patient model? >> exactly, yes.when we look at flu, let's say, the estimate between anywhere between 20 and 60,000 flu-related deaths a year, they also look at those might've had a heart attack for those who might've had bacterial pneumonia and then we have to decide was at the flu that put them at risk him for heart attack or the flu that put them at risk for pneumonia? same thing with coronavirus. if somebody died of cardiovascular disease, they coincidentally have coronavirus or to the coronavirus because heart attack? this is information that, again, we doctors need to know. >> laura: we know people die of coronavirus and we know they die with coronavirus, but as one of those chinese researchers said, i think it was yesterday, you have to distinguish between the two and it's not easy to do. it's not an easy process. thanks so much, great to see you tonight. >> thank you for having me. >> laura: coming up, jobless claims broke another record. it's heartbreaking this week as millions more americans got laid off. s