in the front row who was bitching at a guy behind them and the guy behind him just went whoosh up the grab the guy threw him over the thing it was over like that the suddenness of the violence blew his mind when i was reading notes on you and you were talking about in the in prison that you don't have time for mad that you go just to rage and gave me the same sort of chill man there's no mid air in there right you don't want to get caught fighting right well that's the whole thing is that you truce and the last thing you want to do is get in a fight simply because you get caught and the punishment for getting a fight is the same punishment 1st step in somebody and you need to get away with the stabbing but you can get away with a fight. i got that i when i think about you going in as a young man and and now you're i don't know what 45 to so years sober. what it what did you why what clicked in your head that allowed you to serve people after coming from that hard to school. you know dentist in 1988 single or my oh everybody think single in my own means 5th of may but but if you're a r

so this is a guy who's against all wars. so vietnam is just one more in another war he's going to protest, and his magazine is a beach front, so to speak, for that pacifist critique. so there's this tiny group of pacifists who speak out. oh, my gosh, america is entering another war. this is morally indefensible. there were others. we talked about the student non-violent coordinating committee. by 1964 and 1965, sncc, that group that had started in 1960 , had become out of their experiences to become more and more radical. they weren't just looking at instances of bad policy in the united states but were trying to create a more systemic critique of american government policy. and one of the critiques they had developed by late 1964 or early 1965, sncc, the radical activists, was that the united states was complicit with the kind of imperialism they found so immoral and wrong in places like africa. so their critique of vietnam, as a theater in which the united states would become involved, stemmed from their already fairly, ric

. >> a guy named victor sent a block and said there's 339 passages here that you have to delete because they are revealing national security information. they went to court and cut that over and cia cut to 339 to 168 and at the end of the day 30 publicker put outed -- publisher put bold space and so much of this can be. that was process inside the intelligence's community. >> he did go through review process. >> right, the case that went to the supreme court was about a guy named frank who did not -- that's what it's referring to in bolton case. bolton is risking losing. in 1980 the supreme court upheld the seizure of all of royalties. he did not give the book for review. the government admitted it didn't have classified information but what they went after snip on he violated his contract and the supreme court without holding oral arguments without even fully briefing took away all of his royalties in the snip case and the irony is and book tv would love this is that years later when researchers got into the justice's papers they found that justice powell drove that opinion because he

to keep in mind though as a tremendous place to watch guys record. hello and welcome to cross talk for all things are considered i'm peter lavelle russia gave will it ever really died this hoax has a life of its own also the foreign policy blog mobilizes around old joe. ross talking this.

original prepublication review was an artifact of the 1970s when some former cia agents particularly a guy name victor marchetti sent in a manuscript of his experience of the cia. they came back to him and said to him and his publish of their 339 passages we have to delete they are revealing a national security information for they went to court, they fought over, the cia cut that from three to 39 down to 168 and at the end of the day 30. the publisher put out the book with white spaces for the 30, boldface for the 160 they did in the tally for the other so as an object lesson in how subjective so much of this government data that was the formal start of the review process inside the process. so they dicker through the review process he did submit it before publishing the book? >> the case of monopoly to the supreme court was about a guy named frank who did not submit his book. that is what the judge is referring to the bolton case when he said bolton is risking losing his royalties. in 1980 he upheld the seizures of his book advance, all of his royalty income because he did not give the b

i showed up to a random house and a guy in a mask is filming me.on't know if he even works here. if he's the only person who's ever going to see this footage. but we're keeping our fingers crossed. i hope it doesn't seem like i'm complaining, even though with my voice, everything sounds like i'm complaining. but this house is gorgeous. i still find it amazing how, in hollywood, you can just rent some mansion for the day and shoot whatever you want. as long as you're wearing a mask or a condom, california is open for business. this truly is just some random house in hollywood. i've lived in this town for 15 years. i've been "invited to a house" to "shoot a tv show" many times, but this is the first time i showed up and there is actually a tv show. fool me twice, danny masterson, shame on me. that is the first moment when things felt weird with this no-audience thing. because i have no idea how that just landed. i don't know if you're laughing or cringing. the audience can tell you if that was the greatest joke ever told, or i could lose everything.

good clean-cut guy. not a rough guy. my time in the service, i was young, i was adventurous. much youou recall how are getting paid for combat? joseph: we got $90 a month. ivy: was that enough to take care of what you needed to take care of? joseph: it was never enough. , on my 16thrtunate birthday, we were still at the first cavalry camp. birthday, so all my friends working to go up to the beer hall and they had a restaurant there and i says it's my birthday, i'm going to buy you guys a bunch of beer. keep forgetting you are only 15 or 16. joseph: i took my wallet with me and went into the shower room and the guys were shooting dice. in the shower room. well, i will get in here for a little bit. i won $1800. ivy: that was payday. you come up said here, you are broke. you can forget it. you get nothing. ivy: you are still too young to gamble. the beero i go up to hall and i act real sad and i hit, i lost all my money. theyched in my pocket and freaked out. ivy: that has to be a more pleasant memory. andph: i went up to the px bought a scooter. a japanese scooter called a rabbi

i did a-a-- >> hey, guys. we got to have a little conference here. hey, do me a favor. hop there and grab the guys, okay? real quick, i want to go ahead and pass this out and let everybody take a look at it, okay? and then we're gonna go into some [bleep] right now. you see, this is a customer service order. there's an imaginary tammy that works for this company, in one of our dealers, that he will not allow me to meet. whose phone number is tammy's? whose number is this on tammy's piece of paper. >> why don't you call your dealer? >> just so we all know, tom's girlfriend has been workin' in this company for three [bleep] years! i have so much proof right here that she's been workin' in this company, it is un-[bleep]-real. this is her cell phone--tammy's cell phone--which is your girlfriend. so it is his girlfriend, tammy. this is the number. this is her direct line, period. >> tom, is that--does she work there? >> sure does, yeah. >> your girlfriend works for a dealer that sells your product? >> that's correct. >> she's not allowed to be working anything to do with this

in the pen journalese a guy who dared to see a lot of crimes to outnumber the audience. the idea of developing an anonymous digital top box and applying it to the media consultant makes sense that was a friends. i did good for and just getting on with beatrice or. one of the world's most powerful news a womanizer material sanderson and a selfish founder to the son of a sunday morning. and there was a great deal of jealousy in the mainstream for the softer figure why won't it be more like oh they have to seem all for. instance to. smile. occurred. during the time we have julian aside in solitary confinement in the prison for terrorists awaiting the house a live person. i don't see him dying. and. what he's saying. it's seemed wrong rowles just don't call. me. yet to shape out just they become educated and engage with equals betrayal. when so many find themselves worlds apart we choose to look for common ground. the american city pulled into a war zone in the sense in federal agents to washington. from texas to fund previous presidents overseas to improve their reelection

and then they see a guy. round you can construct the scenario regardless of the color of the man's skin. it's much more likely to happen with a black person but it could happen without. same as rodney king. that could very well be. that happens with white people all the time. i do think it's important to stress it is a powerful contributory factor and not a sufficient factor for what you think could happen. >> i kept waiting for you to address the issue of the role of desire of the police officers in the case or the idea that we see what we want to see to see those realities over and over. >> so there is a little more of that in the book so with that analysis what is the context those four guys are operating? they are in the midst of the most rampant season in the nypd history to conquer crime in new york. and have been told correctly the way they have conquered crime have been far more aggressive and active. you cannot do that if you are passive in the police department and then you have to be aggressive so t

go for it, babe. >> nikki: i was on a flight yesterday, met a cute guy. urs in. what would you do in that moment? >> you know what? if he was drinking a mountain dew, i would have poured it on his lap. that is rude as hell. we are in the age of corona. everything is way stressful. if you are in a relationship, do not talk to me, i don't want friends right now. i don't want them. no thanks. >> nikki: you know what i did? nothing. i continued the conversation until we landed and wasted more of my time. i could have used you. since reading your book, your voice is in my head all the time. you're so freakin' funny. i can't wait for your new book. can't wait for your podcast, thank you for being here tonight. >> thank you for having me. you're a gem. i love you ♪ i'm going to take my horse to the old town road ♪ ♪ i'm going to ride until i can't no more ♪ ♪ ♪ however you go back, we've got your back. ♪ verizon knows how to build unlimited right. you start with america's most awarded network. the one with unbeatable reliability, thirteen times in a row. this net

, not just a real estate guy. he's not a fitness -- finance guy. he's a construction guy. there's a great series on youtube, they much made it in the '90s, of trump in one of his hotels doing every job. at one point he's dressed up as the guy who greets you at the door, and he walks a dog for the lady, and he comes back and she says, oh, that's really great, my dog's so happy. do i get a tip? [laughter] he's cleaning rooms with the maid, he's checking people in, and he was having the time of his life. but there was a non-intellectual , relaxed happiness about trump. he's very exist ten number a way that reagan was not. reagan was very long term and had a very good sense of history. trump really is in the moment. now, he's really, really smart, and he's getting better pretty fast. and it's not that he's similar police you can -- simplistic, but that he tries to find core principles and then operates off of those principles over and over and over again. and sometimes you can't figure -- i always figured out every president. it's my job to understand them. if they do something

and here is bulger you know participating in all of these crazy lsd trips as a prisoner so you have a guy that's leaning toward being a bad person and then that chemistry with all of the lsd experiments really changes his mind and he almost becomes the purple houck at that point so it definitely was a contributing factor and it haunted him for his entire life. we write about that the book, the fact that catherine and whitey couldn't stand the same bedroom at night because whitey bulger would wake up screaming because he would be reliving these hallucinations that he had experienced so many years before. >> fascinating. i'm not a psychologist and i don't know but i know from watching in court watching him every day that he was very involved in his trial. he was prone to outbursts from time to time. he could also turn on the charm as when he was first brought in and asked can you afford a lawyer and his answer was i could if you gave me my money back, serial killer ahead of the mob and he's cracking irish jokes and trying to be one of the guys. so many different facets to whitey bulger and

but here's a guy who was a lion. and lions don't need to strut through the plains telling people they are a lion. everybody on the plains can tell that. and i don't know, you know, went out on the black lives matter mass saw in washington. -- plaza in washington. this was his last great display of power or righteousness, and it was john lewis standing there with a cane if -- cane in his hand. and it was the lion, the lion. albeit the lion in winter. and people talk about john being beaten on that bridge. if john could speak and if you'd listen to his speeches, he was essentially saying i regret that i is have but one cracked skull to give for my people. and my people meant blacks and whites and browns and muslims and jewish people. that's who he was. harris: yeah. you know, that's been part of what i think his legacy carries forth into 2020 as we face a new chapter or struggle. and, look, congressman cleaver, things are different than they were, you know, 55 years ago, obviously. some things remain though. and i wond

said and by he said they thought and they got again and i'm going call me a homebred older than we we are b.c.'s. i was the guy most of that meant. no i mean. it's simple i got a book a most of the new. and i'm afford to put their own one of those full of books on a book get basi you see that was a. lot of muscle nominally a ton and a boy made up of s.f. . but whatever i. read it. twice i think that's what happened to john o. and all. the. stars on head of the most you ever want to go and i mean not made aliya for it that most of. those are my only friends arguing all day and 3 months ago one of. the dominant i have they after someone they love and i actually d.m. both time is money again. or going in the faeces ok i have been the they want to me. and i mostly go out as. we have at the alice grown course i can write down and run a throw blanks in so you are coming and i want to go back but no i mean. it's have someone i love it is d.m. point of and also i was sane but always a. little . in the borough. it's quite a challenge here for me to come from germany to cuba the living conditions are difficult yet. it's

fear that a little bad luck in your life and you your family could could end up under a bridge given a guy your underwear in exchange for a sandwich and all that madness would be over and the impending number of addictions 28000000 that isn't even accounting for how many people stay in a horrible relationships because they can't afford a place of their own both horrible marriages and other living arrangements like the 25 year old who has to live with his mom who cleans her feet on the couch every night while watching wheel of fortune and eating soup that smells like a rotting raccoon carcass that 25 year old should be given a free apartment. well let's back up even further and question the brain parasites we were given with our social engineering why should someone be homeless just because they don't have enough money think about it what are the reasons because guys are in word hard enough so that i did have to obey homeless dad called words addict at tech and it's what our country founded upon george washington john things jumping forward motor 1 company man now it's not icon trees not fo

he was a guy who was incredibly adept decorated sheriff's deputy in san diego breaking down the cartels in san diego in areas, and that dirty to that whitey bulger had. also whitey bulger there was a certain bulge that suggested a weapon. richard eden was not armed, testifying in a gun trial and down the street and giving his weapon to the veil of that morning. richard eden was unarmed, he knows boulder won't go without a fight and decided to trail him as long as he can and does so until eventually boulder gives him the slip. >> it is amazing. only a few minutes to spend on the pursuit. you mentioned the new agents, new ideas, new ways to keep interest, went into america's most wanted many times. they would target billboards and eventually they targeted an ad campaign focused not necessarily on what he but katherine greg, how quickly things turned around in los angeles. >> noreen gleason, among those agents, with the reputation, had no ties for the john connolly regime, by catching bulger's woman, put out ingenious rules. got some feedback and a plastic surgeon that not only treated kat

clean-cut cut guy -- guy. not a rough guy. young, i was adventurous. much were you getting paid for combat? joseph: $90 a month. ivy: was it enough to take care of what you needed to take care of? joseph: it was never enough. ivy: especially for what you are doing. , my 16th was fortunate birthday we were at that first calvary camp. my friends were going to go to and i said it's my birthday and i'm going to go up and buy the beer. ivy: i keep forgetting that you are only 15 or 16. joseph: i took my wallet with andand i went to the shower the guys were shooting dice. i one $1800 -- i won $1800. he said when you come up, you're too young to gamble. so i walk in and i act real sad. i said i lost all my money. and said that's tough. and they in my pocket freaked out. ivy: probably one of the more pleasant memories. joseph: and everybody drank. someone even went up and got a scooter, a japanese scooter is called a rocket. it was like a hundred dollars. home and ithe money was fortunate. won a lot of money gambling. was -- i had ai problem. but i did have a p

so the fact that a little guy comes at him is unsuspecting and he's unstable because he's intoxicated makes perfect sense that he could drop him. >> aspirational -- >> eight days into the trial, the prosecution calls its final witness. a blood spatter analyst. >> this is a possible position. >> who used photos to demonstrate that joel's blood on travis' clothing was consistent with travis standing over joel while beating him. >> travis was either standing right next to joel lovelien or straddling joel lovelien as he was punching him in his face. >> the prosecution's evidence was stacking up against travis stay. no question he had been in a fight with the hunter before joel was killed. no question he had taken a swing at someone else afterwards and now he'd have to explain why there were traces of joel's blood on his costume, which travis was either unable tore unwilling to do because of his suspiciously convenient amnesia. >>> coming up -- >> could someone else be behind this? >> you think other people are covering up their own involvement in this? >> i do. >> when "dateline" continue

investigators learned the driver was brian witham a guy with a rapsheet dating back to his twenties witharmed robbery. >> he gave you the impression that he was the guy who would sit there and talk to you. and given the chance, he would kill you and think nothing of it. >> reporter: agent nocera tried get answers from witham. but the suspect was mum. >> witham comes in and right away says he's not gonna rat. >> reporter: the passenger who claimed to be a hitch-hiker, said his name was michael benanti. he was initially charged with felony possession of a stolen car. here in an interview room, he ranted about his arrest. >> there should be no arrest here. i did nothing. i got thrown out of a car on the -- highway. you know what i mean? there's no -- there's no nothing. didn't do nothing. >> reporter: and bragged to the guard that he was a big-deal executive. >> i'm the ceo of a -- company. eight years i've been building it and this stupid, little arrest is going to destroy me. >> reporter: investigators learned that benanti had, in fact, founded a company and was even profiled in the wall

so you had a lot of help. you know guys like rodriguez and carter must look at the odd side your old man and a few other people film sets can sometimes get a little sucky and a little whiny some people run a tight ship or they keep it moving along but i think can you imagine when the rodriguez and carter hears stuff like we've got to flip it we're for going to night shooting tonight we're going to flip it i'm not going to be in there just look at your brother i'm missin the whole 400 guy should have a good thing about the craft service table true story you know i will say and i will give a lot of the guys that worked on this film a lot of credit everybody showed up and they showed up with humility they showed up ready to tell the story and and there wasn't really there wasn't any bichon you know which was incredible i've worked on film sets there have been in this was it was about doing this story justice in ordering these men. there you go if you're going to be the inner alaka tour folks on timeless heroes you your karma w

he's not just a real estate guy or a finance guy he is a construction guy. there is a great series on youtube they must've made in the nineties. trump that one of his hotels doing every job. at one point he is dressed up as the guy who meets with the board but then he comes back and says that's great. but then and then with the maiden checking people in and having the time of his life. but not as the intellectual but reagan was very long term with a very good sense the trump is really and a moment. he's very smart and is getting better fast. and is not he simplistic. and then operates off those principles over and over again. and what is it they thought they were doing because reagan had a very long-term. weather formally months or four more years are the things that you feel trump has that would change about the presidency given his style. >> i doubted and the reason is in the next person will not fill the room the same way. of course whoever succeeds trump in january or four years later will be more managerial and more organized. it's not what he needs or w

what a wimp i am a solution guy of the critics have a point but could you do? e make it about this guy instead with that tan he's always been a person of color and never owned slaves in the technical sense how about this lady? margaret hamilton in the original wicked witch of the west from eyes who doesn't love a good hamilton beach blender? but it's too late hamilton the movie is already on disney just higher :-colon cap next has hamilton here who says protest doesn't pay? wonder how he feels about his new bosses to put our the movie glorifying slaveowners maybe they will nailed in the meantime - - during the main street parade. so as they hit them to take a stand jk rowling and other liberal writers signed an open letter to and cancel culture. even of these are very much that they were attacking me so why a change of heart? they are terrified they realize the mob is finally getting around and until now they never lifted a finger. a lot of they are literally safe who didn't sign a list? dave ruben, scott adams, joe rogan, weinstein, a clint eastwood, they on th

>> sean: he's a gun confiscation guy. have a new name, i will unveil his name, what i do, i will do it exclusively for you, who is w mr. potato head? >> laura: the cnn guy. >> sean: that is humpty. >> laura: okay, i have an hour to do. i will never guess this. that is coming up. i can't wait to do the interview next week. >> sean: one week from yesterday, i'm preparing. i don't want to get the crap beat out of me. >> laura: get your legal pads out, hannity. >> sean: i have attorneys for this, laura.

the guy was a great personality. he was six foot four, handsome guy, >> just south hasn't changed much since high school. we walked around, we saw a lot of things that we internalized. >> frank mccain had been raised in the more openly racist city, where the jim crow laws had been renewed in the 1960s. >> it may be green, that's for sure. i was definitely more angry than my parents, grandparents, and all the other generations combined. i just thought the system had betrayed me. >> in the junior chemistry class, he befriended the most popular kid in junior high school. >> he became a high jump champion. his record stood there for eight or nine years, he was like superman to me. >> dave richmond and i went through good times, tough times, laughing times. >> martin luther king in greensboro spoke at a college. among those in the overall flow crowd work to brunel and richmond. >> dr. king was so profound in his message. it made me feel proud to be a black american. david never took a backseat. when we got on the bus we sa

lemonis: and i'm a guy, by the way. o believe that part of not being able to raise capital is because i'm a woman. i have no bitterness over it. i really don't. lemonis: but you have resentment. christina: you know what i have? i want to share my story. wanting to be a champion for women is part of me. lemonis: i care about you and me. -christina: yes. -lemonis: i'm a guy, and i'm interested in investing. lemonis: christina doesn't want to let this gender thing go, and i'm trying to be sensitive to her feelings. but i'm here to focus on her business, not her personal hang-ups. -i want to make an offer. -christina: okay. lemonis: you have a business that has a good idea. christina: $900,000 is what i need in the next 12 months. $5 million is what i think that i'm gonna need in the next three years. lemonis: how many of the venture capital firms that you met with actually spent the day with you and asked you all those crazy questions? -christina: none. -lemonis: how many of them actually got on a ridiculous-looking bike? -

a man implicated in the killing, this guy freddie genius,he's a monster out of springfield . uses an enforcer for the italian mafia out in springfield. he was serving time for a murder of a paco named adolph big al bruno and when freddy g is in hazleton and whitey bulger comes walking in, he was moved there under a very suspicious some might say nefarious circumstances i think our investigation has shown that there is a combination of negligence and incompetence. the warden said bothflorida and hazleton have a lot of questions to answer . and i hope they do but literally bulger was thrown to the lions. one of the most dangerous prisonsin the country . it was in the middle of a staffing crisis where they had had acouple of inmate murders . and filled with monsters, according to several from massachusetts and one of the things freddie genius didn't like was a rat and that's what he was. >> he was murderedhours after he arrived . >> freddie genius is the guy that began corresponding with dave and i. through letters and freddie wrote us several letters with pencils because they w

i know the fans are not there but that's what they come to see, a guy like that who gives everything he has every single time. >> kevin: it's a huge play for alonso with one out because now i fly ball can get him home. by the way, ryan cordell is a pinch runner for j.d. davis at first base. >> kevin: so, 3-2 boston. runners in the corners, one out, alonso the tying run at third and it's michael conforto who will be the third hitter. >> john: infield playing in, trying to cut down and read the ball off the bat. >> kevin: 1-1. there is no barnes right now. the mets just 2 of 14 with runners on base. alonso hit by the pitch. there is cordell over at first, 1-1 to conforto. >> john: good pitch right there, he's driving in a lot of runs late in late innings as barns and vazquez are hoping to get that call. >> kevin: tried to sneak one in. 2-1 the count and he did not go around. 3-1 to conforto. >> john: the last two pitches were as good a pitches as you could make on the bottom of the strike zone and the top of the strike zone, neither one got called. now the at-bat is 3-1. that pitch spli

how's he going to know heads together and achieve anything he certainly is a nice guy and that's one thing about him the people should be prepared for i've heard so many stories about his personal kindness perhaps unusual for a politician and he does seem to be a genuine public servant the thing about him is that he doesn't necessarily have to knock heads together he has to sort of be a bridge builder a consensus on someone who chairs meetings but not necessarily sort of forcing people to agree on the same issue and i think that his personality will definitely help in that regard that he is just a nice guy who people would at least listen to but whether or not he has the ability to bring change in policy changes in some of these huge issues that remains to be seen but it's not only his job requires unanimity amongst all the member states. thank you. well the cruise industry has agreed on a new hygiene plan to get the giant lighted sailing again poster in dark some of those stranded at sea with crew aboard ports refusing them entry over outbreaks of coronavirus and many vessels no

he was kind and considerate. >> just a nice guy? >> just a very nice guy. very good person. >> sort of person who volunteered forn things, like helping to build houses for habitat for humanity. >> he really enjoyed it. >> justin was almost 31, the eldest of three. his brother nathan idolized him. >> all three of us stayed close. playing sports hanging out with justin. >> he was just a great older brother, very supportive and caring and would give you the shirt off his back if you needed it. >> justin saved her life when as a teenager she was caught in a riptide. >> it was absolutely terrifying. i felt like i was literally drowning and then all of a sudden there was justin and he was pulling me up on our boogie board and telling me that everything is going to be okay, everything's going to be fine. >> so you get the idea. just a good person, a nice guy who was about to get as lucky as a person can in life, that is, lucky in love with her. >> i found him very attractive and interesting and he -- he was fun to talk to. >> her name is angie verhule. what happen

know this is a guys tell the story that i talk to you on is hundreds. so it's a scene of my gonna. run out of hiding. are those 100 then all going to walk up to you or not. meeting. with a virtual news blackout little information of what's happening in the rest of japan is reaching me. but 5 days after the quake hit the emperor's 1st live speech to the nation filters through. thanks. i. got let me. again she took it's adventure i'm not joking now you know down on you just on the on the down to quote all. and the. while the world's attention is focused on the nuclear disaster america's residents focused on survival. orderly queues form for russian food to. me. and fuel this gas. there are people. who are. in your. backyard are on r r. r r r r r. r r. r o. one of the more than you get north to me 2nd gucci the local civil servant escaped the tsunami and is volunteering with a food supply team. a warehouse in the center of town serves as the supply headquarters for the i know. nobody in the v.a. so to talk. a little idea that would i not pay you know don't get to that. you know. that

mound of fake slash that he was constantly struggling with all day very his he's great he's a super funny guy. you know laura i know that a lot of people of your generation and you're youngish and schneider and spade now old men but i was wondering who were you fans of theirs way back when when they were on s n l and is it weird to show up and see with 2 people that used to watch you but my gosh though i'm out there with them and breaking them up. it's so surreal i truly i loved s n l 7 growing up in that era was my favorite and so to be able to work with them i mean david is someone i've been talking to my entire life as one of my favorite comedians so the reason admission for the movie was because he had signed on to do it already i truly was like oh i don't know this is but i want to meet david states so i auditioned and it was so surreal i mean it was very weird to be doing scenes with someone that you've been mired for a long time and he's so down to earth so i was really relieved because you really never know when you're meeting someone that you know you've you've watched for a long tim