we spend a lot of time and a lot of money, a lot of resources, redesigning the system, because we knew we had a problem. one of the things we try to address was balancing the needs of parents. there are parents in parts of the city that feel they do not have access to high performing schools. while we work on the schools across the city, we want to give everybody access to all schools. in addition, a lot of families said they wanted more predictability in the school assignments. i do think that the predictability issue is something that may frighten parents of young children. so we revised it and added a proximity component and a predictability component that i think as address those concerns while still giving parents access to high performing schools wherever they want them to be. >> prop h is merely a statement of policy. what you think that the actual practical effect if prop h passes? >> honestly, i do not think there's going to be much of a practical effect, because the school board has been very clear, and i am being very clear what the voters now, that this is the direction tha

we do have a lot of crime in district 2. both crimes against individuals but also against merchants along our merchant corridors. chestnut. union in particular has been hit. fillmore and sacramento. it is a big deal. we also have the break-ins. we need to be very mindful that people keep their iphones and laptops out of sight. but it is a big deal. one of the things i talk a lot about on the campaign, making sure that we do fund our public safety departments. we have to make some tough decisions this year, but to me, one of the biggest priorities is making sure that we have our police and firefighters and sheriffs' offices and their budgets fully funded so that we can ensure that public safety does not lag during these budget times. again, in district 2, i do not think it is talked about as much. we are fortunate that we do not have a lot of homicides. we do not have a lot of those types of serious crimes. but the crimes that to happen to matter to the people in district two. so as a local supervisor, it is incumbent upon me,

a lot more around education. g to be developing more and more things with our high school programs and middle school programs and have a chance to sort of develop younger musicians. of course we're going to be presenting tons of music. >> so, america still respects jazz. nobody believes it's really dead. they have been telling me that for 30 years or so. >> it's exciting. as i said earlier, it is an art form that has always regenerated and always been about growing. there's more -- what's different actually now. i was going to say there is more musicians than ever before. this formal training program, something that was very different from what jazz was 40, 50 years ago. so there's lots of young jazz payers learning differently than musicians did then. extraordinarily young talent out there, a lot of it. >> belva: we look forward to seeing it. season runs through december. >> yes. >> belva: just a mix of all kinds of folks who like the sound of jazz. thank you, randall cline. >> thank you, belva. >>> my thanks to

it takes forever to get across, there is a lot of congestion. he did not have anyone to push his chair. he was this late heading back down to the street. that one aspect -- there is a large segment of the population that have difficulty getting to where they're going. the muni isn't that division right now. there is no more cars on that street. maybe the city will make its money back for putting all these things in. the lines on the street or not clear. we were trying to figure out which parking spot, which was 3, which was for, which was 5. they put the white lines on the outside toward the bike lane which is such a small white line, it does not go clear across. it is difficult to understand if you are in three, four, or five. i am giving you a detailed example of one area that was down there. i had to ask the traffic officer to come over and take a look. when he came over, he was able to point out that they were being lenient in the area because it is not clearly marked. the other thing is, a lot of people feel in terms of muni, they are unfami

it was a lot of working-class folks. my father was a shore worker, my mother was an office worker at usc. my parents were divorced when i was 10 years old, and i moved to the east coast for six years before going back to california after high school. i went to school at uc santa barbara, graduated in 19988 -- 1988. i have lived in the excelsior since 1999. i have had lots of different jobs, but my main job is doing social work force and a disco, i have been a community organizer, i worked at a labor organization supporting janitor's working in our high- rise buildings. i was a legislative aide before .wr. i got to see how it all work from the outside, community organizations supporting young people, children, families, working for labor, and saw how city hall could be an effective tool for change and then considered running in 2007, 2008, and somehow, i made it. >> you were raised in los angeles, moved to the east coast. what made you want to come back and live in san francisco? >> i love cities. i never felt like i lived

they didn't have a lot in common. hrysler found itself in a position where the -- its german owners actually looked ahead in the future and sa chrysler as a drag on dimler and a threat. one who became the chairman and ceo of chrysler realized very early on when he got that position in early 2006 that the legacy costs and the obligations and the paper thin profit margins that chrysler had could turn into a real problem if the market turned. there's some repress in selling the company, but then chrysler went adrift, sold to capital management, the private equity firm on wall street that had a game plan of stripping it down to essentials and rebuilding the company. i guess we'll never know how that would have worked out because they only owned the company for a year when the financial crisis hit this country in 2008, and auto sales went off the cliff, so chrysler was incredibly vulnerable, and at that point, scrambling for a partner, trying to merge with general motors, their executives were traveling around the world loo

ford made some hard choices a lot earlier than gm did. the biggest of which was in late 2006, when they decided to mortgage the entire company and borrow as much money as they could, $23 billion, to take a rainy day fund a few well when things got tough and more portly to start transitioning the company away from its reliance on suvs and trucks to smaller more fuel-efficient passenger cars. >> host: sure. one of the things you touch on in the book and i am sure you are a fact-driven hard-nosed reporter but you spend a lot of time with the emotional connection between bill ford and the company. you might talk about that a little bit because it really is compelling and you spend a lot of time. it is moving actually. >> host: bill ford is a passionate, dedicated, emotional man who is in a very unique position. he was an owner and he was an executive at the same time. he had a family, a history and the financial wherewithal with a corporation yet he was close to hundreds and hundreds and hundreds of men and women on the line, the engineers. he

and then i crashed, really badly, and a lot of it for me was mixed up with drugs and alcohol. i slipped into such a state of total and utter depression and despair that i didn't know what day it was, i didn't shower, i didn't change my clothes. i didn't really eat, i stopped going to school, stopped doing work, stopped going outside, stopped talking to people. every time i'd try to watch the television, i was convinced the world was ending, and i would run out of the room screaming, and shake, and hide in the corner. when i started to interface with the mental health profession and be given diagnoses and medications to contain that fire inside of me, it both felt like a huge relief and like it had the power to extinguish that fire, which was terrifying. no one ever told me before i started taking zyprexa or lithium, that if i stopped it, i would have severe withdrawal and psychotic symptoms. but it actually turns out that a lot of these medications, when you stop taking them, trigger in you the withdrawal symptoms that look like the craziness. a lot of people get put on meds at

and they had a lot of fun with it. they wrote some interesting articles that would only, i think, be -- come out of english language learners who were writing a paper for other english language learners. so they were explaining things that american high school kids, kids were born here, wouldn't have to explain so one year a kid did a primer on what is hip-hop and explained the him and the hop -- the hip and the hop and another did a primer on fashion, and another girl wrote a whole -- a huge environmentalist. she wrote a whole article about global warming. so, i thought there was great stuff there. but i just -- it was cutting into some of the story. it was too much scene and not enough story. >> right. the school is the center of this, of course, and it's right in brooklyn in prospect heights. you do take some trips outside the school to the town in connecticut, farmington, where one student lived, and to jessica, the chinese girl's, apartment. did you make more forays? how was it difficult to keep the school as the c

i learned a lot from him. one first things i learned from him that there is big danger from a person named osama bin laden and al qaeda and eventually they will hit at home. unfortunately john live the tragic life. he retired week before the world trade center attack. no one was listening to him about the dangers of al qaeda and he took a job as head of security for the world trade center. he died on he died on september >> host: "the black banners: the inside story of 9/11 and the war against al-qaeda". atlanta, you're on with ali soufan. >> caller: i value your opinions very much. i would like you to weigh in, the book you just put out. i know you always come up with pragmatic things. what would actually happen if president obama won the election by 50% of the vote and john mccain won by 46,000 -- 46% of the vote. what if the ones that voted for john mccain did the same thing they're doing in libya to rebel against the government? would president obama and the united states military have to shut these riots d

this begins a lot of this and the various e. coli outbreaks in the '80s. so to have the alternative to industrial food crushed because we're trying to regulate industrial food would have been a horrible irony. >> terrible irony. i think we will be ok. there is still a lot of tea party wing of the food movement. [laughter]. >> they all wear three-cornered hats? what does that mean? >> fierce libertarians that don't want the government anywhere. >> anywhere. >> they're out fighting this and on the grounds that the bill will criminalize the backyard gardening, none of which is true. so there is a lot of -- >> kind of like the death panels of food. >> in a sense. >> there are people talking about this. >> i heard you interviewed -- it must have been that little window between obama's election and obama's inaugurati inauguration, two years ago. >> two years ago. this is when they were still talking about um agricultural secretary michael pollan. >>yeah what a crazy idea. >> there was there was a thought that maybe they would turn to someone like you. in fact, th

and i think that's what's the still a lot to do ok point two units i want to go to you what has to be done still because we just had a really rosy picture from stuart here but i mean what needs to be done because i mean let's be honest here you know not every company in the world is flocking to russia why. well i think because there are still problems and the problems are still significant in terms of red tape i think there has been progress in addressing issues such as corruption such as the. level of bureaucracy at the regional level of the federal level but this is coming from a very high base so there is a lot that still needs to be done in that regard i think another issue is russia's overall openness to foreign and. and this regard again we've seen progress in the past four to five years russia currently is the only bread country without capital controls but on the other hand you do have things such as strategic reserve strategic enterprises strategic sectors there are scope has been reduced but again this is something that still needs to be addressed in order for capital foreig

they have a lot of cash on the balance sheets. ey've had a good earnings season thus far through 2011. and small businesses, secondly, we're seeing small businesses beginning to borrow in a fairly significant way for the first time in years. our loans to small businesses year to date are up 70% versus last year. and that's not because last year we weren't making loans. that's because we didn't have the demand. this year, we have the demand. that's a very positive sign from the small business sector. and then the u.s. consumer. one data point that we track is the u.s. consumer's debt service to disposable income. how much do they have to pay out to service their mortgage debt, their credit card debt versus their disposable income? we're at the lowest level we've seen since 1994. that's a 17-year low, which means the u.s. consumer is getting their own financial condition in much, much better shape. so when there's a sense of confidence coming back, i think the consumer is poised to start spending again. >> there's a real pent-up dema

a lot of enthusiasm from either one of tear bases. you wonder how that will factor in if there will be this volume, negativity in a low turnout election. >> i think the money is much more determinative, or will be for the reasons. they will be enly matched at the presidential level and people pay attention at the presidential level. it will be much more determine atif in the senate races and on down the ballot. and the senate could very well go republican. i mean i think the conventional wisdom is it will flip to t republican election, if the election were held tomorrow. >> interviewed actually by my wife and they both predted the senate would go republican and the house would go gem crat did -- democrat you can. you want to talk about counterinfewive, it real is. >> i could see that. >> one thing we haven't covered, romney's religion. does it matter. >> i was going to bring that up. it like the 800 pound gorilla on the table. when you were talking about why hasn't obamacare hurt him more and i think it has hurt him. and it's not gone-

i think there is a lot of great information, a lot of great changes in this. i am not daunted by them in the same way, but i think we have to be careful about the law of unintended consequences that happens pretty often so that we know what the consequences are. to that point, more outreach and more time to discover that is great. the core of the legislation is really good. a lot of great information, i think, is coming. they have been identified today as problem areas. we can probably get resolution on this. >> there is a lot i don't want to see water down or changed. commissioner moore: on a positive note, simplification is something that we have talked about for years. we are much further removed from using the code in a day to day way except when it comes to specific interpretations and hearings. what is a concern to me, a very valid question raised by the public. the one that is strong with me is that the push back on what is a process and they have standing on the sidelines while the legislation in place gives them the right to speak about properties and

a lot of people thinking about that. ying and we are looking at the calendar a second ago, you look at the rnc, look at its leader and the penalties that are there that he can levy, are they not strong enough for him to get these state organizations in line? >> richard, on paper they are pretty strong. they take away essentially half of that state's delegation to the convention. but where a lot of these states have decided to move up and they basically said they don't care about that penalty, they saw what happened four years ago when you had michigan and more importantly florida jump up, and when president -- then candidate barack obama went to the democratic nominating convention in denver, he basically reinstituted all of the florida delegates back. so the assumption is if it is mitt romney who the ultimate republican nominee, perry, in a sign of goodwill, they will restores this deal giates for te states that decided to cut in line. >> why not start during halloween, mark? you and i have a couple extra months ahead of

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but also, a lot of community arts centers. there is all these community arts space is that i just love, and it makes our neighborhoods a much more colorful and livable as well. >> what motivated your interest in politics? >> i guess i have always been passionate about civil rights and equality for everyone, and i have a 10-year-old daughter, so having a girl has made me much more sensitive to gender equality and other issues, but i guess i have always been someone that is vocal about my politics, but as a supervisor, and having to listen to many perspectives before making key decisions. as an activist in chinatown, i have always felt that working families and people who work in our neighborhoods need to have much more support. it is always about giving more voice to immigrants or the underserved and workers in the city. that is what drives my passion as a supervisor. >> tell me about the process of running for supervisor. what did you learn from the campaign process? was anything surprising? supervisor mar: i had to move from b

it has enabled me to do a lot of rot and visit a lot of campuses. -- do a lot abroad and visit a lot of campuses. i had to give it up so i would teach us. i cannot say i enjoyed that part of it. i would have done the same thing all over again. it has not been without the unpleasantness. you become more vulnerable. i have experienced some of that vulnerability. >> in your book, 2010, "no university is an island" you take on the university of illinois were you make your living, academic administrators, why? why you have this approach? >> taking on the aaup comes out a tremendous respect for the organization. i've been there for 16 years. i stressed throughout the book -- i stress throughout the book that it is essential to education. sometimes it feels. it failed most dramatically during world war i one when it supported the notion of criticizing the draft and that they should not have that kind of freedom. some of us are still haunted by that failure. it failed again during the mccarthy period. we did not do investigations of unjust firing. the leadership was afraid. eventually, we de

it should be a lot less expensive. the whole process like you did when you did buy the house. the larger the loan, the larger the fees. so if you have a house that's over $1 million, at praisal fee could be $1,000. razz if you have a house that's $400,000, the appraisal fee could be about $300. >> in general, you should expect four different types of fees. lender fees, title, escrow fees and government fees. you know what? it's going to be everything from, like he said, the appraisal fee to the application fee. >> do your math to make sure that you think you're going to be in this home. if you shorten the duration of the loan, you go to a 15-year, be sure you can handle those monthly payments for the next 15 years. you've got a solid income, but you could be save tens, if not hundreds of thousands of dollars in interest. so everyone should be looking into refinancing. >> that's right. >> absolutely. >> people that have a $200,000 monch with $167,000 value, if they take out a 15-year fixed in 3 1/2 year years, they would

this was a lot of work that has gone on for a long time. i really appreciated the historical context that was given. history goes back even before the 1960's before industrialization began to go away and new uses came in but probably back to the 1850's and before. we have a lot of different groups who have inhabited this part of san francisco and even a higher residential percentage prior to the earthquake. i think a lot of these industrial uses came in after that. i want to make sure that we don't freeze the neighborhood in time. it is important to preserve and recognize what is there. everyone is welcome. there will be new residents. we have heard from some of them who represented the concerned citizens. for the neighborhood to become a vibrant, to get the funding to do the kind of things that you need to have, you will have an influx of new residents. your careful that the character of the neighborhood is not destroyed, especially architecturally as a new residents come into the area. this is important because we're hoping to do a lot of

they ask a lot of questions that. if you answer it would mean your sensually agreeing to a false promise that they always ask a stupid throwaway question if you answered you it would automatically assume that you have that you're agreeing with some larger promise nearly with the programming trick i believe actually. didn't work i mean it was fun it will get good keep but i guess i know you've been down there certainly in the thick of things. you know in new york on wall street in zuccotti park but i want to get your take not sure if you heard about your son what's been going on in denver a police over night there. clear in the park that those protesters are saying in police see this as a victory i'm wondering what you think the effect of this will be if you think more efforts like this you know officers literally surrounding the park and moving in slowly you think this will be happening more around the country. i hope not and i think the most important thing to say about that the most important statement to make about.

well i'm going to be a very very you know it's very interesting i mean even the word tsunami is used a lotthese days and you can use it in a social sense political sense economic whatever sense you want to be allotted for . is that happening in the world now. is there more of a perception now that russia is a place of predictability i mean it's a lot more stable here because if we look at what's going on. with the dollar with the euro and we have a lot of political issues around the world i'm thinking of the arab spring russia seems to be a little a lot more tranquil than most of the world right now. yeah thankfully yes indeed it is yes look who's talking to my crew canonic environment is is relatively good i'm in everything is relatively the same need to be a lot better and growth could be higher but it's it's it's fine i think are the key question the it for all of us is russia's always important is the level of oil prices and they had been holding up pretty well despite the global fortuity which this time around tells me that rather them a lot of speculation with commodity prices that w

into you know make ends meet and you know in this economy and you know that a lot of people are saying you know they're not so for a line i don't understand i can't see how sixty plus years in the military is not a lie so you know as a part of the ninety nine percent you know i think it's my duty as a leader and you know as somebody who you know chose to protect and serve this country you know continue my job you know it's not a. i take it lightly and stop once i left the marine corps some really interesting things you said there first of all being in iraq having people actually threaten your safety and you not lashing out at them and coming back and seeing this behavior by police has got to be frustrating i let me ask you because i watched this video a few times and. and you kind of i looked in the police's eye the police officers eyes and look at their faces their only listening it seems like they're thinking about what you're saying take us back to that day what was the reaction by these police officers who were standing around and you know were they digesting what you were saying f

it is too low for a lot of the area we need to get to. it had very low value from a water supply standpoint of getting water to that height and try to back flow into the distribution system. we had much better, sort of, distribution, quality, and hydraulic capacity from the lombard reservoir site and expanding that, which we did. >> in the past when it was used, was that an issue? >> it was used then abandoned in the 1930's. san francisco was built along the waterfront at an elevation of 135 feet and sort of fad that area. people started moving up into the hills and it became an issue. building at a higher elevation serve people in the hills and the people in the lowlands and back into downtown. going back to the workshop discussion and questions, the meat of today's presentation. we posed three questions to you. they might not be the exact right questions, and but we thought, what should be some key factors in considering secondary land use? what should be our primary or secondary use? do you want to have food? do you want to have a playg

i think there will be a lot of fighting in the future right now and tomorrow and tomorrow there is fighting going on between tribes and anyone with a weapon as power who can do what they want. so many celebrate this new era in libya's history people like me are quietly bracing for the worst. and he's now a artsy tipperary. organizer join the need to live there in tripoli and these are the bodies of kind of gadhafi has been a top aide of finally. being buried off the dais on public display what do libyans make of the way they were treated to death what do those who you've been talking to make. first of all some libyans that we've been speaking to understand that barry get back we are his secrets of his connections and dealings with the west which is very active in close relations really if you just look back a couple of years before many countries decided that he was the number one dictator and had to go with that said the whole world watching crude in libya those brutal pictures that we saw over the weekend of how gadhafi was killed still argument over whether or not he was killed in crossf

>> he's embarked on a lot of initiatives. this -- look. the problems we got into, candy, were years in themakering. they are deep, complicated and they'll require sustained perseverance and lots of ideas. there's no silver bullet for them so you have to keep chipping away at this problem and that is what he's doing. what we shouldn't do is go back to doing what we have heard from these republican candidates from the congress, let's just deregulate wall street, let them go back to writing their own rules, let's cut taxes for the -- cut taxes at the very top. it is the same strategy that has failed this country and they want to go back to it. so there is a very big difference between what the president is trying to do and what the republicans are offering. >> let me ask you about a story that appeared recently, i believe in the "new york times," about lobbyists. you have raising money for the president -- and people called bundlers. that is they give what they can, the max allowed -- all of this is perfectly legal, let me say that. but you ha

. >> a lot of eyes are on this for the election. it could be a test case of how it works very poorly. >> those stories, coming up next. >> belva: good evening. welcome to this week in northern california i'm belva davis. joining me tonight are mina kim, reporter for kged news and rachel gordon, city hall reporter for the san francisco chronicles. and josh richmond legal and political affairs reporter for the oakland tribune. josh, the governor just released this proposal on changing the pension plan. what are some of the main paint points. >> to create for new workers going forward hydrid pensions what ch are small parts like the defined benefit plan they have now. a bigger component of a 401 k type plan which is sort of what the american standard has become but is not something that a lot of public workers are used to. he would be pushing the retirement ages later for new workers. he would be using a three-year average of pay to determine the pension benefits instead of single ones as an effort to prevent some of the spiking and oth

he had a lot of friend. best way to describe it is if holmstead crossed a street, he wrote a variety of letters about it because he was a journalist. he wrote an article writer. there was always -- as a biographer, it created so many takes on any given action, but it was an embarrassment of riches basically to be able to have so many acts in his life for him to account for them and very up sightfully, and -- insightfully, and in long, 10-15 pages of explanation of his being enraged about a park design being rolled back or whatever, and he sent letters, and they respond, and that creates a rich trove to dig into. >> right. nobody will be as easy to follow in the future. a lot of other people's opinions to back it up. >> check their facebook page. >> right, exactly. [laughter] i wonder what it would look like. >> the entry -- >> he also ate horrible food. his die -- diet was terrible. >> yes. >> interesting you say that because in the early 1890s, he was brought back to prospect park to figure out where the ten

i really dislike a lot of this legislation. it drives me crazy. i like when you do one thing at a time and take care of it. certainly, but no one will argue against code simplification, particularly if they have tried to go through our code. i will not comment on everything that is in here because it has become nearly impossible, let alone all the testimony we have had already today. there was an attempt to relate this as to size and complexity to the eastern neighborhoods and market octavia. those were two different situations that took, in some cases, years of public involvement to put together, and truthfully were much simpler than this ordinance is, in my mind, because they were very specific in what they were trying to do and the areas they were trying to effect. this affects the entire city. rgthe far i does see a problem with. signs and awnings i don't see a problem with. the grandfathering, i think, has to be looked at a little more. i think the expansion of the tdr's on the surface looks good, but i'd like to go into it more. we're obvious

we have a seat height to be concerned about, but a lot of other things. for example, people worry about getting into bathtubs because they are slippery. how do you deal with that? >> it all depends. the most important thing you can do is have a grab bar for the tub and shower. we think about the toilet heights. we think about having barrier- free back from -- bathrooms. if you are in a wheelchair, a shower curtain would be a barrier. thinking about the door to the bathroom. you want to have a nice, white door. 3 feet would be very nice. even a little bit larger bathrooms are you could maneuver in it would be helpful. >> let's look at some six. we got an e-mail from some of who watches us online who had a question about whether or not there are any downside to getting one of these vessels sinks, one of the six that sits on top of the counter. >> that is one of the reasons i like j.c. plumbing. they have a great selection, and i can make my point. let's compare these two six. this is a bowl shape, and this is a ceramic that comes straight down. the disadvant

we have a lot more. glad you are with us. >> thank you. >> and sounds like a pretty chilling experience. >> you are taking me out for shrimp is what you told me, right? >> right after the show. >> he's having oatmeal. >> more of the great, great, great american panel next. úy ( phone ringing ) okay... uhh. the bad news, it's probably totaled. the good news is, you don't have to pay your deducble. with vanishing deductible from nationwide insurance, you got $100 off for every year of safe driving, so now your deductible is zero. the other good news ? i held on to your coffee. wow. ♪ nationwide is on your side ( laughing ) it's actually a pretty good day whenou consider. that's great. we continue with the great american panel. i don't think there's been enough attention paid to the wasted stimulus money. 1.$2 billion sun power. $535 million solyndra down the tubes. you have four oregon companies located in the medford area that got $7 million in stimulus and who did they hire? about 250 foreign workers.

they are getting a lot of material support. they get donations from all over the world shipped here. multiple times a day. you see boxes roll into the park, up to 400 a day. from sleeping bags to hand wipes. there is the catch. hundreds of thousands of worth of cash. they are trying to figure out what to do with that next. >> live for us, thank you very much. we want to take you to the other side of this story in london. michelle, what is the latest there. >> protesters here in sait. pau area are here for three days and they are taking a page from occupy wall street. they are organizing and many of the same issues that started in the u.s. are resonating here in london and elsewhere as well as asia. in front of st. paul's cathedral, they chose the space to occupy because it is nestled. they hoped to march for the london stock exchange over the weekend. police barricaded the area and it's safe. they have permission from the cathedral organizers to stay in the space as long as they don't hinder tourists from entering the space. som

so we got a lot of things going on. thank you. >> before you start, one thing i wanted to mention, i have a former colleague, lori johnson, not to put you on the spot. lori has done a lot of research on cobay and also on new orleans. i just want to know, if there's anything specific you have that could add to this discussion. you don't have to. i know i'm putting you on the spot. given the opportunity. all right. [laughter] ok. >> good morning. this question is a two-part question. probably would be best directed to barbara. one of the things is, as being an administrator of a church in the bay area, a vulnerable community, being part of the inner faith council, have you contacted or have m.o.u.'s with any other churches in which you could have health departments set up in there with emergency medical supplies or anything in case of an earthquake in the area so that we would already be a part of the city's plan? and my next question is, we are on third street here in the city and third street is one of the only corridors

it has a lot of hills, there's a lot of dense groves. once you get towards the center of the park you really lose your orientation. you are very much in a remote area. there are a lot of trees that shield your view from the urban setting. you would simply see different groves that gives you a sense of freedom, of being outdoors, not being burdened by the worries of city life. john mclaren had said that golden gate park was too far away. he proposed that we have a park in the south end of the city. the campaign slogan was, people need this open space. one of the things that had to open is there were a lot of people who did a homestead here, about 25 different families. their property had to be bought up. so it took from 1928 to 1957 to buy up all the parcels of land that ended up in this 317 acres. the park, as a general rule, is heavily used in the mornings and the evenings. one of the favorite places is up by the upper reservoir because dogs get to go swim. it's extremely popular. many fights in the city, as you know, about dogs in park

having said that i actually think it's getting a lot more coverage and so now as the coverage improved in terms of quality it's a different question and it's it makes paganini a little bit more respect i think what's happening is that as they do occupy all across country and fifteen hundred people show up in orlando i think that's what people go oh maybe people are mad at wall street and there was a poll out a d.c. news wall street i'm sorry washington post poll that said sixty eight percent of independents are really angry with the big financial institutions and sixty percent of republicans so republicans are angry don't wait a bit it's legitimate right and so it's beginning here improve slowly as they get the whole american people or because not just the budget as they would say like oh hippie young guys who are willing to you know fight for this and why do you think it's so difficult or has been so difficult for mainstream outlets. heard of that look at this movement as something that for whatever the greater american population a lot of times the stories focus on you know individua

of this remains here a revolution will be got a lot on your ankle development for me but it is it's a state it's taken out of you i would be here whatever it is it's really just if it also just a failure of what was generally called mainstream media because people are looking for alternative news they're looking for an alternative points of view i mean we in mainstream media you know in the u.k. in the united states are still very dismissive of the occupation movement and things like that they're a bunch of loons they're on the fringe they're laying the lies i mean let's go to laurie. was lori go ahead let's put that you can go ahead gloria. if i can if i if i can come in. the the the tension between mainstream media and online media is very very interesting at the moment because obviously it's not a straight divide you have people out there who are journalists like myself blogging and tweeting and you have people who are mainly involved in the movements organizing online going and writing op eds for mainstream papers like the guardian or the new york times but the tension is very mu

i spent a lot of years a lot of money working very hard to get a degree that agrees with this bill and right now a truly. bigger employer is ever been this very spot. is the site of the crime is the perpetrated by wall street bankers. who instead of gowdy people's money speculating with reckless abandon incompetence. so after that first week the chance of complaints by demonstrators continued on a daily basis so the loci police involvement that on september twenty fourth one officer seem to take what can only be described as a vicious approach against the occupiers or pepper spray. that was around the same time that the mainstream media finally decided to start focusing on what was happening as a park should note news outlets only mention the excessive force used by cops at that point they still in explain the message of the demonstrations but when it came clear the cops were going to fight back and of arrest hard to climb by the end of september eighty seven people have been caught and this is also around the time of the rest of the world started taking note of what was happening big