. >> is a right is a right to action. not a righter freebie from someone else. it's not a right to impinge on other's life, liberty and pursuit of happiness. it's immoral redistribution of wealth. >> is medicare a freebie? >> you are making the point for me. safety nets, medicare, social security, fundamentally are unsafe. >> people pay in the program. it's called fica. you don't worry abou it but a lot of people do. >> forced to pay in to it. >> we can all agree, we can all agree we want everyone to have healthcare. we have don't feel it's necessary to have everyone paying for it. right now, the young people pay for everyone else to have healthcare. i want everyone to have healthcare. but it's up fair to make us young people subsidize it. >> hold on. >> stop, stop, stop. >> let's talk about that. is it a right or is it a privilege healthcare in america? >> i'm not sure that that is the point here. the point is the cost of this that michelle said, i talk about the makeup lady. her deductible went up $80. her cost went up $

also, i like a right to be forgotten that actually doctor forgetting which requires time. equires a show that there has been some kind of change. something is different. we don't forget people who continually offend. >> would you advocate different standards for eraser for call thes than kids? >> i would. >> our community has been tweeting about this all day. we have charean, teaching them what to post online is much smatter, safer and better than a delete button. it receives that their private and personal events should not always be shared online. sadly for kids common sense is not a school course mandate. one more, jacob on facebook, if they were raised to understand that their action versus consequences nothing more needs to be done. no more legislation. i want to go to you, emma, this is a huge concern for our community. will this option kids to learn about accountability and responsibility? >> i think there are a lot of questions that come up when you look at trying to put a privacy law just on minors. i think the idea of teaching kids what is smart to post online, wh

he has got a right to do that it is a constitutional right. >> he has a right to suspend him as everybodyws. >> by the way, that makes him among the dumbest business people in media. >> i wouldn't challenge his theology. i think everybody needs to think about that. >> but you know what else they need to think about, all of this nonsense about people boycotting a&e. if they really want to start something here, that is the conservatives, the evangelicals, the republicans and the moderates, you know, he took on slanderers and adulterers, we haven't heard from their organizations about what they are going to do. >> we haven't heard about the slander heers. they are mostly in the media if they start the boycott contest in this country, it's going to be holy hell. >> i still think the might take their ball and go some place else. >> when we come right back, an american story that you should see. teacher's union supporting a convicted child rapist. the boy's parents are shocked and angry. we will talk with them next. upgrade to the philips norelco sensotouch 3d for the most advanced shaving expe

arm, i had no function at all. >> that accident left tom with a paralyzed right arm. but tom had been riding bikes his whole life. it was his passion. after a lengthy rehabilitation process, he thought he wanted to still right and he helped build a brace, it's got a bit of a shock absorber from the forearm to the bicep area and it does allow him to get back on the bike. >> i think it's really cool because all he really needs is that support. >> and the brace provide him the balance and support that he needs. hopefully he can get back out to the race circuit. >> behold the wonder of reptar. he's blue doing a cattle roundup. >> the cow is listening. >> i love how the dog is circling the cow and the cow is like, okay, i'll go. >> sometimes a dog wants to herd, even if it's only one. >> speaking of dog, we usually see dogs getting baths at home but not pigs. this is a micropig. her name is shrimp. she lives in england. it's enjoyable to watch her getting a shower and a little scrub. >> it's like a little spa treatment. >> it's so cute! >> and she's eating little trea

to counsel. >> this right is a basic right to in in in the constitution because the threat that is presented by imprisonment and even execution is a threat that the government should allow to have. >> gideon had to represent himself because the state of florida denied a lawyer. the entire trial lasted a day before he was found guilty and sentenced to the maximum to 5 years. >> the last days end here walking into prison and doing his time. but this time he went to prison convinced he didn't belong there and the state of florida didn't give him a fair trial. he did what most people would do with insanitiary and fairy tales. he wrote to the supreme court of the united states. >> the supreme court they have cases brought to the court by people who are too poor who are able to pay for their fees. gideon's was a hand written document online prison stationery. you couldn't imagine a simpler more elementary way to get to the highest court in the land. >> why would the supreme court decide to hear the case of a poor man already in prison. because the constitution allows even

one of the wonderful strongarming alive should be a good news ali face i think you're right. the pleasure to have you with us here on t.v. today i'm sure. did you know the price is the only industry specifically mention in the constitution which says that's because a free and open press is critical to our democracy shrek. never go on i'm sorry and on this show we reveal the picture of what's actually going going on we go beyond identifying a problem to try to rational debate a real discussion critical issues facing america about ready to join the movement then welcome to the big three. go back to the big picture i'm tom harben coming up in this half hour back in october police in california shot and killed a thirteen year old boy and they mistook his toy gun for an a k forty seven assault rifle children really be carrying around toys that resemble deadly weapons also dogs have long been considered man's best friend but there's never been.

that's because a free and open press is critical to our democracy right call for us. to make you know i'm tom are in on this show we reveal the picture of what's actually going on we go beyond identifying the truth rational debate a real discussion critical issues facing america ready to join the movement then walk a bit. more about the big picture i'm tom arbonne coming up in this half hour nelson mandela fought for many things during his life and health care for all human beings regardless of growth or status as one of the issues he was most passionate about what needs to be done to make mandela's dream of universal health care a reality here in the united states and right now millions of americans are courageously fighting illnesses and diseases that may ultimately take their lives rather than wait around for doubt pain and suffering a tumbler that should these people have the option to end their lives or not. is. in the best the rest of the news today current and former leaders from across the globe gathered in johannesburg south africa for a memorial service honor

he has a right to say what he wants and there is a right to fire him. d another, a and e was correct and it is a corporate decision and has nothing to do with freedom of speech and religion. and another, he can say what he wants lose show, followers and political correctness is fashist. and another, the upcoming season is moot. it will blow over and then a and e will have the another hick show. i can't keep an eye on every local newscast in the country, but have i some help. none other than conan o'brian through some investigative reporting his show found a striking similarity this season among america's local anchors. >> who are you really shopping for this holiday season? okay. you can admit if you bought an item or two or 10 for yourself. >> it is okay. you can admit it if you have bought an item or two or 10 for yourself. >> you can admit it. you bought an item or two or 10 for yourself. >> you can admit it. if you have bought an item or two or 10 for yourself. >> you can admit it. >> if you have bought an item or two or 10 for yourself. >> talk abou

by terry terry somebody earlier who said that this is a capitalistic country running a business is a right in a free capitalist country like ours if we made such stupid laws that they must pay what some outsider i guess that would be me decides is a living wage they will simply move their physical business overseas to a place where they face no such control ok let me break this down first of all this is a capitalist country sorry no the united states is not a capitalist country we are constitutionally limited representative democratic republic and you can argue that ever since. the supreme court has decided that they really run the show were cause to show monarchy but we are we are not a capitalistic country capitalism is one of a whole bunch of different forms of economics that exist in the united states we have cooperatives we have we have communities we have you know you have some capitalist you have entrepreneurs the word capitalism appears nowhere in our founding documents no where in our constitution i mean learn some basic civics and some economics be running a business is a right i

came forward as the chair of the committee that developed the universal declaration of human rights this was a formative period in mandela's life and it is not coincidental that when the universal declaration of human rights was honored at its fiftieth anniversary it was nelson mandela who went and gave a great address to the united nations in which he's broke at length about that right to health. so adam why would republicans suggest that we don't have a right to health care i don't understand it's. been on your show before tom and yes i mean that exact exact same question i can't tell you why they would i think that in this day and age there should be a right of every person to have health care just as it stated in the previous clip that you showed i think with the point in in our life time that everyone is entitled to care the fact that we don't have it in the united states the weight should be like other civilized countries you go down the list japan started it in sixty one the economy wasn't thriving at the time once they put it into effect it took off and it worked it's been going on for

a wonderful time this week. ic bolling and "cashin' in" starting right now. >>we are taking aim at the "duck dynasty" controversy. sponsors of the hit show sticking by phil robertson after the controversial comnt. is that a foul decisiono free market working like it should? plus -- [ ♪ hallelujah >> president oma the divine? >> we thought hwould be, i shouldn't say thiat christmas time but the next messiah. >> the main stream mediaoing an aboutfe admitting it was blinded by the aura of the man in t white house. the broken lies leading to this broken retionship. how love lost could mean freedom lost in 2014. duck for cover. "cashin' in" starts now. hi, everyone. i'm eric bolling. the ew this week wayne rogers, jonathan hoenig, mielle fields and richard fowler. welcome, evebody. we have the lowdown on the "duck dynasty" dustup in a moment. but first, i know you are tired of hearingt but you have to hear it one more time. >> if you like your healthcare plan, you wille able to keep your healthcare plan. >> period. >> call it the lie of the year. "wasngton post" gi

listen. >> he doesn't have a right, a first amendment right, to have a tv show, but he does have a first amendment right to have opinions, and his view that homosexuality is a sin is a religious tenet of many, many americans. and we ought to respect people who belief that. but his language was crude. and offensive. and why he allowed himself to be drawn in to an interview by a magazine on this topic is beyond me. >> i don't fault phil robertson for that, being led into an interview, because there are so many people that are surrounding them that should have more sense. they should hire some better people to be able to manage them. because they've got a wonderful show going. you know, he gave an apology that possibly is sincere. a lot of people that have personal experience and family and friends have a different viewpoint. it wasn't just that the gay community was offended, a lot of people were. he said he was apologetic for that. i think would be of the things we can do in america is say, okay, he said it, there's been an apology, a&e has done what they're going to do. a&e doesn

right and moral. the government controlled healthcare. until they have alternative, we're not our brother's keeper. >> we'll leave it there. coming up, the patriarch of "duck dynasty" getting support from sponsors following the comments. network suspending him. will the free market decide who is right and who is wrong? >> i'm not sure that a&e has to go so far to remove him from the show. they could have issued a statement of what they believe in, if they felt differently than what he said. clients are always learning more to make their money do more. (ann) to help me plan my next move, i take scottrade's free, in-branch seminars... plus, their live webinars. i use daily market commentary to improve my strategy. and my local scottrade office guides my learning every step of the way. because they know i don't trade like everybody. i trade like me. i'm with scottrade. (announcer) ranked highest in investor satisfaction with self-directed services by j.d. power and associates. too small. too soft. too tasty. [ both laugh ] [ male announcer ] introducing progr

they have a right to do that. what i find strange, though, is that people don't -- do have opinions about when somebody should be taken off the air and when they should not, and they are not very consistent about that. you had martin say something really horrible about sarah palin and everybody saying this guy has to go. all -- it's not a free speech issue. he shouldn't be able to say that and stay on the air. all of a sudden, this guy in the entertainment vehicle says something offensive about a lot of different things, it's homophobic, racially intensive, offensive against religions and the same corner of the kind of -- the ideological spectrum is saying this is a free speech issue. i think you have to say, be consistent about it. i think the media company, do whatever you're going to do. sometimes they let people stay on, sometimes they let people apologize, sometimes they lay low and blow over. do whatever you're going to do, i don't care. if you're going to be out in a public setting, i have an opinion about

>> he has the right to say whatever he wants. except he is working for a network that has the right to fire him for saying anything he wants. so he has the right whether or not he should have done it in such graphic terms is another matter. if he had just said marriage is between a man and a woman, this wouldn't have happened. >> or if he had just said i'm a christian and i believe the piebl says thbible says homosex is a sin, it would have been fine. >> it would have been fine. >> was this, at least in part, a political decision on the network's part? >> well, it seems so. in fact, the head of a&e said there were networks who worked on his show that said they couldn't because of his views. i'm totally baffled for why a&e fired him. >> he's not fired. >> well, they suspended him because even tmz is calling a&e out saying they knew about his views. this is a reality show and he is giving the audience a slice of his reality. >> and what about when phil robertson says african-americans during the jim crowe segregation era were happy and singing. >> i read tho

a. human rights watch would not intervene. on the screen to. the court system in russia we washed all of that particular kids very closely and yes it's a clear example of political manipulation of justice and the ruling was. a human rights watch operates in many countries and if you look around the world this issue of ethnic and especially of religious hatred is extremely prominent these days it's a major source of human rights violations in the middle east it's a major driver for wars now in syria in libya in afghanistan in iraq so i wonder if you believe that in this particular case the right to a fund let's say religious sensitivities is more important important than the right not to be found that i think i said it but i don't mind repeating it again. put. her actually trolling don't disproportionately charges because they did not want perpetrate an act of color when the women want to play should only learn to stand by their actions and in fact during their own pretrial hearing they actually apologized to believe or as if those believers feel

a personal watch list too. but don't run around and cancel them right away. il we know more about what happened. >> if you are sure that you're a victim of fraud, then that might be the reason to cancel that card if you have certainty about that. >> what are your rights, if you think that you've been a victim of fraud? >> you certainly want to dispute those charges with the credit bureaus and you want to understand that you probably have more protection, you definitely have more protection if you used your credit card as opposed to your debit card. so be really proactive because the amount of liability that you have in terms of your credit card, if you get to that right away, it's only going to be about $50 if you get to that in the next 60 days. for a debit card, you only have two days leeway. >> that's your bank account. >> that's your bank account, and that's most important because what people don't realize, and we had a couple people say that, they noticed their balances going town. you're starting to bounce checks for other things and that's a problem. >>

. >> guest: right. >> host: 236 years ago, a 40-year-old would have been right to think that. >> guest: yeah, yeah, yeah, right. >> guest: see what i'm saying? you're right to say this. that he embraced it, that, you know, when 40 i'll have these things, and so it's regressive, yes. a lot of the stuff is out of this they regret, but some of the guys i quote in the beginning of the book, all this they take away our country, you know, it's all -- it's very nostalgic, but he was right 24 years ago. that is key. things change quickly. you can't rely on -- you're not don draper. they don't exist. >> host: goes to work, puts on perfume, looks good, and gets the girl. it's not necessarily going to work, right, right. we have a few minutes left. i want to end, this is the hardest part, you know, you got men who are failing, angry, the what can you do question? you know, we race through that at the end of the book. you know, what can you do with this wage on the radio and, you know, online and sort of in life and with -- what do you do? how

she wrote me a letter after polling today. all right? because she said you've never been there and i was. >> i accepted her apology. did sharpton apologize? did he? no. no. >> he made a mistake. i don't want to tar everybody at msnbc with the same brush. there are hosts you may in the agree with -- >> what about leadership >>> give me half a sentence to get to. that who do their work, honestly. you, i, audience do not agree with them. i hold them accountable setting a tone when someone like martin bashir can spew forth venom like he did against sara palin. apologies should be made when malicious mistakes are made. that is where i would fault him. >> i don't expect nbc to do anything. they're losing credibility, bernie. all over the country, now. i think they are. >> here is the last word. i'm wondering if you can consider this possibility. the strategy is say nasty, unethical things about bill o'reilly. he's going to try to set the record straight we'll get more publicity on fox than ever on msnbc. >> you've got to have a product. >> only

rights. >> liberals love tolerance. but you are the intolerant one. you are intolerant of a majority view that's christian in the country. >> the majority has nothing to do with it. >> you don't care. >> i don't care if it is 99-1. we all have equal rights. >> we do, but you feign outrage. i don't believe you are fayning outrage at all. i think you are trying to raise money by appealing to your base and going after christian groups. that's what i think. >> nice to meet you, kettle. my good ness you're talking about raising funds with a fake war on oh christmas. we are putting up -- >> how many people have donated since you put your little sign up. >> i'm not going to release that information. >> check mate. coming up, a michigan teachers' union is fighting for this convicted child molester's massive severance package. he'll spend 30 years in jail. that organization is refusing to allow this honest hardworking kindergarten teacher to leave the union. myriad chansky and her attorney will speak about their battle. >>> speaking of union, why are groups like the aflcio secretly f

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of indigenous people which is an international instrument that creates a comprehensive human rights framework, a comprehensive human rights framework for indigenous rights of indigenous peoples worldwide. this declaration was approved by the un in the year 2007. it was endorsed by the united states in the year 2010. so today there are 150 nations around the world that have endorsed this un declaration on the rights of indigenous peoples. it is the new order of the day it seems to me and so my book basically examines this un declaration, the nature and its contents and goes on to compare these un human rights standards with existing u.s. foreign policy, to see how our lot -- how well our laws and policies in the united states stack up against these un standards. and then finally this book urges our nation to undertake a social and legal movement to implement these un standards into existing laws and policies so that all of our why is and policies comply with your comport with each and every one of these u.n. standards. i have to say at the outset of that this book, i am very indebted

we heard a lot of ugly talk about health care from the right. georgia's republican insurance commissioner, for example, recently compared people with pre-existing conditions to reckless drivers. take a listen to this. >> say you're going along and you have a wreck and it's your fault. well, a pre-existing condition would be then you calling up your insurance agent and saying i'd like to get collision insurance coverage on my car. and your insurance agent said, well, you never had that before. why would you want it now? you say, well, i just had a wreck. it was my fault and i want the insurance company to pay to repair my car. and that's the exact same thing on pre-existing insurance. >> now, since the video came out, the commissioner admitted it was a bad analogy. but saying a cancer survivor, congresswoman, getting insured is the same as someone who wrecked their car and then tried to scam an insurance company? i mean, is this what they think? >> you know what? actually, as a former health care professional, i think he needs to go see his doctor

union has a right to fine those of the members that doesn't followrd ohhers when told to observe a picketine. therefore can't we similarly project that in the course of the next 10, 15, 20 or 40 years almost every right you and i now consider to be a right primarily protected by the state will burgeon into a constitutional right so there will be an overlying tissue of protective devices to render the states this their influence. >> will that really be an enlargement of our constitutional freedoms or will it not be an invasion of the constitutional rights? did they not give the union a right that superceded the constitutional freedom of the individual. >> p that would be my own notion. i find that the supreme court proceeds without reference. >> if the supreme court goes farther i will ask them to solve our water problem. there are increased rights. we have freedom of speech, you and i. but if we continue in the policy i can expect some day that the court will rule that you and i have the right to force these people to listen. i do think we have the right. >> yes. sometimes they come close

a part of it. thanks for letting me. all rights. >> when we got there, we realed there was a friend of ours there, looks like he's going to be able to go backstage. would they like to go backstage? of course, they said yeah. still had no clue what was going on. >> hey, i've got to stop for a second. i've got to tell y'all something. there's something really special going on here tonight. you know, i'm a big fan of our men and women across the seas that are sacrificing themselves. i heard we had a true hero in the house tonight. sergeant jackel and his family are here. i thought you guys might like to say thanks to them. is that all right? are they here? [ cheers and applause ] the american dream is of a better future, a confident retirement. those dreams, there's just no way we're going to let them die. ♪ like they helped millions of others. by listening. planning. working one on one. that's what ameriprise financial does. that's what they can do with you. that's how ameriprise puts more within reach. ♪ i get out a lot... except w

you don't have a right to tell me i'm not christian. but everyone is in the right and a & e will walk this back before phil ever misses an episode. >> was this a complete mishap in terms of the communications from a & e, how they handled this? 'cause it doesn't seem like it will work out for them very well in the end. i wouldn't be surprised if the family walked and went to a different network. >> i was without an internet signal for quite a while yesterday for hours. i was going to say out of pocket, but it's hard when greg is standing here. >> she literally can be in a pocket. >> that's what i thought. i finally get a signal and i'm looking at e-mail and think, wow. america has lost its collective mind. here is a question i have about the a & e thing, when you do an interview like this, you have to make a couple of choices. when you are dealing with a conservative and religious person, it is different than dealing with somebody like leonardo dicaprio who is going to be a -- who is a superstar already. you have to think twice before go

right. so when you say, well, this is a civil right and that's a civil right and this is a civil right and somehow may not be felt by most americans. >> such good points. but this is nothing new. we have heard this administration for a number of years say that health care is a right. >> well, what's happening is everything becomes a right in order to increase the registration rolls of a party. so reducing economic inequality, the president talked about that. that's now a civil right. improving upward mobility, that's now a civil right. economic security, that's now a civil right. you talk about the rich against the o you talk about that it's rigged, that there is cynicism, and these are the president's words. rigged, cynicism. so you try and develop an audience that's gone away from you with this kind of overblown logic and rhetoric that doesn't match history, that doesn't match the record. he won't say that this is a program that failed at its outset and impose new taxes and burdens and probably job losses on the american people while they get higher prices for health care and maybe less availabi

this is a roger prism, all right? and this prism will also take the light and bend it into a rainbow. later, we're gonna take some white light shining in here, and, boom, you're gonna see on the other side, what? begin with r and with b. - rainbow. - a rainbow. and that rainbow is another word for spectral-- spectrum of colors, yeah? and this will give us spectrum of colors too. it turns out it will give a spectrum of colors because it turns out different colors of light will travel at different speeds-- right. --through this material or any material. did you guys know the speed of light is less in glass and water than it is in air? and how come the light slows down when it gets to the glass or when it gets to the water or anything? and here's another thing. this used to bother me years ago. if the light slows down when it gets in the glass, how's it speed up when it comes out the other side? it seemed if you want to get light to slow down, get it on a piece of glass plates and at the end, you can just catch it in a bu

a huge difference. do you disagree with that? >> what are those standards? mark is right. there is a legal right. we're not arguing about the legality about whether or not they can suspend phil rontson. we do have a culture of free speech in addition to the legal rights of free speech. when a & e, when he said that, they ostracize ad great deal of the american public. fans, religious people and people who simply want to see free and fair debate like myself. that's the standard they got on the right side of. >> it is not a debate network, it is an entertainment network. and they have the right to say we don't like this person. >> of course they have the right. >> i don't just mean a legal right. i mean it is well within even the cultural argument you're making to say in this culture, we don't want this representation being the dominant -- >> listen, i've got one more question. it appears that we're having trouble with your skype there. i want to say this. a & e goes on to talk about the interview and they don't agree with what phil robertson said. here's what they said this time. they said his fami

of health care being a right. it is great if we can provide the right for health care to know acquired but when you throw it out there for others to pay and not have to do anything for a product/service. if you could explain that, that would be fantastic. >> sure. i think you have a misconception of what the affordable care act does. we are paying right now without the affordable care act we are paying for millions of people who show up at the emergency room that are so sick. the affordable care act care allows them to get the coverage and go to the doctor without the need of the a copay. and stay well instead of going to the emergency room and costing us more. my parents raised me if you don't have your health, you don't have anything. so making sure we can insure everybody has the ability to stay healthy makes us a stronger a better country >> where did you grow up? >> on long island and lived there till 18 and moved to florida to go to the university of florida. go gators! >> what did your parents do >> >> both

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a great deal of his life before he went to prison was about that go ahead roger. right so i appreciate on a leaving the head geography to me in germany but i'm not here to do that. look when a man of this stature dies you will have in the press a great deal of her geography and it behooves those of us who pretend to be scholars to look beyond that so i'm not surprised about the geography now a lot of them mention the one party state that came about as a result of what she called the axis of evil well some historical event on saturday during the era of apartheid dominant power just a dominant parties to let not one apart if they don't like if i could just finish you can join continue continue continue so you'll have a chance to continue so a dominant party state no it's passing strange that the same axis of evil had a rather tolerant attitude toward apartheid south africa during the worst years of part time it is certainly true and i think mandela would be the first to admit it because he was a much more introspective man than some of his. admirers who were not trying to

now once a half right now roger in a new york if i can go to you what kind of legacy is in your mind when you think of nelson mandela because i'll show my cards right up front i mean i'm a child of the cold war and i remember him in the context of the cold war south africa fighting communism the big global confrontation between the united states and the soviet union and a great deal of his life before he went to prison was about that go ahead roger. right so i appreciate on a leaving the head geography to me in germany but i'm not here to do that. look when a man of this stature dies you will have in the press a great deal of geography and it behooves those of us who pretend to be scholars to look beyond that so i'm not surprised about the geography now. the one party state that came about as a result of what you call the axis of evil well some historical. societies during the era of apartheid dominant power just a dominant parties to let not just one hearted like if i could just finish you know join continue continue continue so you'll have a chance to continue so a dominant party s

. >> a fat nightmare, well, i look forward to watching that. "anderson cooper 360" stardz right now. a 360 exclusive, dr. sanjay gupta, an expert in treating pain. why did his patients in his clinic o.d. and die? hackers take target. what you need to know if you hold one of the 40 million credit and debit carts compromise in one of the biggest data rip off in records. >>> dozens hurt, nick robertson is there, nick? >> reporter: anderson, 76 people injured so far we're told switch of them seriously injured taken away by paramedics on the scene within minutes. the fire service spokesman said that a 30 foot by 30 foot section of the ceiling in this more than 100 year old theater collapsed on the audience below. eyewitnesss we told you said they were injured about the first 40 minutes of the performance. then there was an indication of people starting to react to something. they thought it was part of the performance. then they said there was a cracking, a creaking sound from the ceiling. the ceiling began to bend and gave way showers plaster and wood work on the audience below. peo

a new criteria. that's what the penal code has empowered us to do. we could start rightaway by corralling a number of legislators and city hall to get behind this effort completely. and i suggest budgetary wise pretrial as will represents is not funded enough. frankly. and our ability to i think really discharge in a supervised capacity so there is an alternative to incarceration is something that the city should put on a higher pecking order. since it costs about $50,000 a year to incarcerate somebody. when i look at the collaborative court models. when we look at the pretrial supervisory models we are talking about here. they are really a fraction of the cost. and i don't think we have that on system down as fluidly we would like, i think many of these are eligible for that program. and that requires pretrial to staff and have expanded population. >> george, we will give you the last word, we are pretty much at our time. >> we are underway, the reality that several of us here are members of the sensoring commission, including our public defender, mrs. mccracken and she