a.p. but curt riskinged his life to get that film. if not for kirk, i would have never had that photo on the wire. i owe him a lot. >> did anybody else. >> there was charlie cole, stewart franklin, and iewrg andr sonn. he found a ground-level image that recently showed up. a different angle that nobody else had. >> rose: was if an interest, angle? >> it was interesting in the sense you can sort of see what was happening on the ground self with the angle is it how-- it wasn't as sharp or close as the other photos put i think historically it was an important image, what did fines people-- the other at a i got an e-mail from something and could you give this picture to him to be an inspiration. i get this a lot from people, and i think sml people lock at this as a first lady saent. it seems to grow in starch use as the years if pie. i'd like to think it hasn't done that much to change my life but i would be lying. it really has. i guess i was sort of a charlie brown in school. i was the guy that always dropped the ball, if hool, in my senior year, and i had something to prove. that was the thing. i w