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there was an order of abatement issued june 28 of last year. therefore staff recommends to up hold order of abatement and impose assessment of trust. that -- >> thank you, is there anybody here from the appellant? >> thank you commissioners. my name is clinton choi and i'm the owner of 284 union street and i also am the president of our condo association, 280 union condo association which is made up of three owners. my understanding is we are subjected to a penalty for not replacing the para pit wall in a timely manner. what we are here to say is that we are requesting that the penalty fee be waived because we've actually engaged in this permit approval process over the last two years. we live in a landmark preservation area and therefore we are subject to the certificate of appropriateness rules and regulations. if you take a look at the records you can see there were a number of instances and opportunities for us to engage in hearings, to engage in acts of action -- let's say action issues. and i think all three of the owners have been very p
there was an order of abatement issued june 28 of last year. therefore staff recommends to up hold order of abatement and impose assessment of trust. that -- >> thank you, is there anybody here from the appellant? >> thank you commissioners. my name is clinton choi and i'm the owner of 284 union street and i also am the president of our condo association, 280 union condo association which is made up of three owners. my understanding is we are subjected to a penalty for not replacing...
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an order of abatement was issued on 3-18 of last yore. year. staff recommends to up hold the order of abatement and up hold assessment of costs due to the fact of not clear utilities received and also maintenance issues that are continuing with the building. thank you. >> is the appellant here? would you mind coming up? >> i bought the home in september of 82 because i used to drive along the great highway and i always admire closeness to the ocean and i have continually lived at the same home in september of '82. so it was a total surprise that someone from the neighborhood filed a complaint that i wasn't living there. our neighbor next door told us about the development of [inaudible] below our house so my wife and i went to the planning department here in the '80s and also in the early '90s to save [inaudible] as open land. so we finally made it. we spent endless hours at the hearing of the planning committee and we also work with then commissioner sue [inaudible] and other people in the neighborhood. dean marcus was the director at that tim
an order of abatement was issued on 3-18 of last yore. year. staff recommends to up hold the order of abatement and up hold assessment of costs due to the fact of not clear utilities received and also maintenance issues that are continuing with the building. thank you. >> is the appellant here? would you mind coming up? >> i bought the home in september of 82 because i used to drive along the great highway and i always admire closeness to the ocean and i have continually lived at...
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i know a lot of the violations that end up with us in the abatement appeal are in the common areas of the sros, are in the back areas or stairs of multiunit buildings so as we do the routines, maybe we'll catch a lot of that before it gets to the state where it's going to be a really major nov and incredibly expensive for the landlords. you know, maybe i'm just too optimistic about the routines, but i'm glad they started again because i knew you had just before, but i hope that as we proceed with this, we can start seeing some figures, maybe at the end of the year, as we do more routines and catch the little problems early, that they don't become major novs and can cut down on those. thank you. >> senior inspector john, a [inaudible] report on code enforcement. >> [inaudible] code enforcement section. so we hit 111 [inaudible] cases referred to [inaudible] for the month of april and of those 26 abatement issued, 17 were held under advisement. we abated a total of 138 cases and we referred six cases to the building inspection litigation committee. to comment on them, the complaint revi
i know a lot of the violations that end up with us in the abatement appeal are in the common areas of the sros, are in the back areas or stairs of multiunit buildings so as we do the routines, maybe we'll catch a lot of that before it gets to the state where it's going to be a really major nov and incredibly expensive for the landlords. you know, maybe i'm just too optimistic about the routines, but i'm glad they started again because i knew you had just before, but i hope that as we proceed...
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force for we have to remember we are not painters we abate graffiti. we are abaters not painters. keep moving. >> how many of these do you do a day? how many poles we do a day? >> yeah. >> depends on the location. may be 20. >> do you like working with the team? >> yes because i'm a people person. i like being outside and interacting with the public and i like the response we get especially from the good job we do in the community. >> goodbye. all right. (clapping.) >> so good evening, everyone. and welcome to the
force for we have to remember we are not painters we abate graffiti. we are abaters not painters. keep moving. >> how many of these do you do a day? how many poles we do a day? >> yeah. >> depends on the location. may be 20. >> do you like working with the team? >> yes because i'm a people person. i like being outside and interacting with the public and i like the response we get especially from the good job we do in the community. >> goodbye. all right....
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the department spent $300,000 last year to abate graffiti in san francisco parks. it's more than the parks, it's just sightfully painful for our staff to work as hard as we can to keep our parks beautiful. and to come in almost every morning to find our most beautiful and precious assets tagged with spray paint. whether a playground, a tree or building or ball field, it just stinks. and to put that amount of money, that amount of cost into perspective. that $300,000, is equivalent of more than three arborists to maintain the health of our trees. we don't have enough arborists to touch our trees once every 300 years, we could invest in more officers to help keep our parks safe. or it's worth four additional swim instructors to help meet that demand. there are just better uses for money than cleaning up after other people's bad behavior. we appreciate this board's effort to give us another tool in the tool box to take this on. >> thank you, next speaker, officer herrera from the san francisco police department. >> good morning, supervisor, i have been an officer for
the department spent $300,000 last year to abate graffiti in san francisco parks. it's more than the parks, it's just sightfully painful for our staff to work as hard as we can to keep our parks beautiful. and to come in almost every morning to find our most beautiful and precious assets tagged with spray paint. whether a playground, a tree or building or ball field, it just stinks. and to put that amount of money, that amount of cost into perspective. that $300,000, is equivalent of more than...
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i'm concerned she's been abated and has no legal right to parts of the roof because the roof is divided into owner and she's been abated for the whole lot and [inaudible] so she has no right, no [inaudible]. >> thank you very much. >> thank you. >> any discussion among the commissioners? >> i'll start. does that mean the permit that has been approved gets issued, that would result the violation? >> yeah, the permit was approved on the may 6. it's a [inaudible] -- >> i find that strange, but to your question, if it is issued and they get the work done timely and get the permit signed up it will clear the violation. >> and in question to the owners, when are you going to pick up the permit? >> come up to the microphone please. >> the reason why it isn't picked up yet is because the original contractors don't want to do the work anymore so we have to find new contractors. we're getting bids and hopefully they should be here this week. >> commissioner walker. >> once you have those permits, what is your estimate as to the time necessary to complete the work? >> the two contractors that we h
i'm concerned she's been abated and has no legal right to parts of the roof because the roof is divided into owner and she's been abated for the whole lot and [inaudible] so she has no right, no [inaudible]. >> thank you very much. >> thank you. >> any discussion among the commissioners? >> i'll start. does that mean the permit that has been approved gets issued, that would result the violation? >> yeah, the permit was approved on the may 6. it's a [inaudible] --...
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the legislation also requires that they post a bond with the city so other is not abated the city can do it and bill the applicant against the bond and reimburse the city for the bond if the graffiti is not removed in a timely manner the public works will issue fines of one thousands a day and repeated violations can lead to the city requiring a box to be removed entirely and the underground at this point it is underground the boxes is not considered feasible in media locations it requires an annual public hearing by the department of public works where the city departments and utilities and experts and members of the public can discuss the technology where underground becomes feasible. if at that point if underground becomes feasible the utilities will have to place their boxed underground and colleagues, i look forward to a robust fill discussions and hope to have your support. i want to note we have minor amendments i've distributed most are technical cleaning up amendments one is a location when utilities seek locations on private property the applicant you must offer mandatory co
the legislation also requires that they post a bond with the city so other is not abated the city can do it and bill the applicant against the bond and reimburse the city for the bond if the graffiti is not removed in a timely manner the public works will issue fines of one thousands a day and repeated violations can lead to the city requiring a box to be removed entirely and the underground at this point it is underground the boxes is not considered feasible in media locations it requires an...
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. >> staff recommends order of abatement and to [inaudible]. >> just a quick question. so the stairs are still missing, front stairs? >> yes. >> how do they access the building? >> not clear to me. >> okay, thank you. appellant? >> good morning board members. may i distribute some information to you? >> you can begin. >> good morning, i'm the own er of 219 whitney street, san francisco. i disrespectfully disagree with that statement. i have submitted photographs to you. except for the missing stairs and port coin the front, facade is nice. i did all the rebuilding work myself and ran out of money and time. i believe i have done a first class job nailing, shaning all the pieces. i cut every one of these tile pieces covering which runs all the way around the back. i did this at the request of the neighbors to the north which would have otherwise had a blank wall. i did all the copper flashing work myself. no one has complained about the looks of the facade. quite the contrary. we see page 10, 11 and 12 on how i plan to finish. we have no problem getting and out as the gar
. >> staff recommends order of abatement and to [inaudible]. >> just a quick question. so the stairs are still missing, front stairs? >> yes. >> how do they access the building? >> not clear to me. >> okay, thank you. appellant? >> good morning board members. may i distribute some information to you? >> you can begin. >> good morning, i'm the own er of 219 whitney street, san francisco. i disrespectfully disagree with that statement. i have...
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works to be performed by the director pursuant to the administrative code paid for out of a bright abatement fund. >> this is a hearing to consider dpw assessment of courts for blighted properties can i ask the representative from dpw to briefly describe the and a half of the report if there's members of the public that has issued we're happy to hear from you and ask you to have a brief conversation with the city staff to resolve the staff and last night in the meeting we'll bring you back so to dpw staff. >> good afternoon president chiu i'm gregariously i think representing the public works diversity unit chapter 80 of the admin code it requires the property owners maintain their property in a safe and blight free situation we spicket the graffiti and notify the permanence to make the improvements they must maintain the property free of blight they've invited the property owners by regular mail and certified mail. the notice of violation provides information on how to contact the graffiti united and how to request a meeting and an stinks. upside down by mail notifies we should the pictures
works to be performed by the director pursuant to the administrative code paid for out of a bright abatement fund. >> this is a hearing to consider dpw assessment of courts for blighted properties can i ask the representative from dpw to briefly describe the and a half of the report if there's members of the public that has issued we're happy to hear from you and ask you to have a brief conversation with the city staff to resolve the staff and last night in the meeting we'll bring you...
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in this particular instance, a lot of these open cases have orders of abatement. they've been taken through the process short of being returned to the city attorney. now the policy is more complicated because the mayor's directive is basically saying we want to have rental housing preserved even if they're illegal units. these are the things we are looking at with the property owner. obviously it has not been the will of this commission or department to do a bunch of inspection warrants on these property because that would be very expensive when the property owner doesn't let us in so we're adding things to the letters to let them know. that if they don't let us in, they need to take care of this. we're really trying to give the property owner notice that there are more tools to try to deal with this particular issue. if they don't avail themselves of the legislation and say it's one dwelling unit and they're eligible for that, then the issue is what do we do with those if we have an order already issued, do they go to the city attorney? that will be some things t
in this particular instance, a lot of these open cases have orders of abatement. they've been taken through the process short of being returned to the city attorney. now the policy is more complicated because the mayor's directive is basically saying we want to have rental housing preserved even if they're illegal units. these are the things we are looking at with the property owner. obviously it has not been the will of this commission or department to do a bunch of inspection warrants on...
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bus systems are running on time or whether or not 311 is working or whether or not, you know, we're abating graffiti. the fact we have this where the average, you know, person in san francisco could go to the controller's website, use this particular barometer and information and prepare these incredible charts, i'd like to maybe see more outreach to work with the public to figure out a way in which we can educate the public on how to use it. so, that would be my only feedback. thank you. supervisor chiu. >> just a quick question. i think we could delve into any of these topics. but do you have the average muni bus speeds? is there a quick way for us to know why my line, what those numbers look like? >> i know they have that information. it wasn't looked into that level of detail for the benchmarking report, but they do have it. >> okay. >> on i think a daily basis. so, we can work with the muni staff group to get you those reports. >> that would be great, just to get a sense of what those numbers look like because i know obviously different lines vary dramatically. okay, thank you. >> okay
bus systems are running on time or whether or not 311 is working or whether or not, you know, we're abating graffiti. the fact we have this where the average, you know, person in san francisco could go to the controller's website, use this particular barometer and information and prepare these incredible charts, i'd like to maybe see more outreach to work with the public to figure out a way in which we can educate the public on how to use it. so, that would be my only feedback. thank you....
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meanwhile attacks have abated. boko haram are focusing on isolated communities where it can take time to help such communities. >> >> the abduction of these girls marks a turning point fighting boko haram with world powers joining the search for the girls. do you think that's the case? >> it is a significant statement in that actually boko haram hasn't received this much national attention since it reemerged in 2010 as a far more vital organization, nor has the nigerian federal government come under so much national scrutiny in terms of responds to the boko haram crisis. >> just how do you think the united kingdom, the u.s., china, just how are they going to be involved? >> so far, promises of support include assistance through sending expert teams, small expert teams, you are looking at logistical communication experts, technical equipment, the expertise to use the equipment. the expert team sent by the u.s., france, china and also canada and australia are interested in supporting this effort. the point of this is
meanwhile attacks have abated. boko haram are focusing on isolated communities where it can take time to help such communities. >> >> the abduction of these girls marks a turning point fighting boko haram with world powers joining the search for the girls. do you think that's the case? >> it is a significant statement in that actually boko haram hasn't received this much national attention since it reemerged in 2010 as a far more vital organization, nor has the nigerian...
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yesterday in an abatement and video with the city. it did not properly they've made changes and taken any measures to fill my toes. the house to present the permit will be suspended if they fail to fix the problem. why >>: we're waiting to see if the beef up police patrols will take effect. when naso steps to curb the number of officers leading the force. and they are going to see it is that it to the passage in this next meeting. >>: we have got to get the numbers up and at the very least we have got a half officers on the streets. rather than just an d., budget. facebook. also they have a description of the car and the social media of they help the officers tracked down the one man. it was just three hours when they finally found where the woman lives. there arrived a house they found a baby safely and returned it to the mound. and the hackers are getting an upper hand. white of 500 business executives to be interviewed and found that online attackers to break into computers still considers a more technologically advanced than all t
yesterday in an abatement and video with the city. it did not properly they've made changes and taken any measures to fill my toes. the house to present the permit will be suspended if they fail to fix the problem. why >>: we're waiting to see if the beef up police patrols will take effect. when naso steps to curb the number of officers leading the force. and they are going to see it is that it to the passage in this next meeting. >>: we have got to get the numbers up and at the...
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come up on the building sprishgs and if they don't get the permit they're looking at an order of abatement'd imagine that process should be started soon because we sent that up in march there's a 3 month hearing. we could daily with the expired permit for the sprinkled. i thought i'd mention that >> go ahead. >> go ahead. >> to clarify the combravpt of the permit will not enable anything not a life insurance to start the paint thing or - >> i mean this is related to a aspect of a safety issue. >> that's rilthd to the sprinkler permit but people if their using it their using it without the benefit of a proper building permit, you know, and that's what you know the issue is i think >> but the permit holder has an expired permit for the fire alarm. >> that's been brought up but probably should be addressed by building department. >> prepared to address it shortly. >> i imagine we'll get a complaint. >> the question our raising is whether the building department will allow them to connect the new work there the permit to a a system that's not been permitted. >> you're talking about the sprinkl
come up on the building sprishgs and if they don't get the permit they're looking at an order of abatement'd imagine that process should be started soon because we sent that up in march there's a 3 month hearing. we could daily with the expired permit for the sprinkled. i thought i'd mention that >> go ahead. >> go ahead. >> to clarify the combravpt of the permit will not enable anything not a life insurance to start the paint thing or - >> i mean this is related to a...
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>> yes back then it was education and abatement and not sure where to g now we're actively involved in london breed's legislation and also we're looking into advertising campaigns, psa and both television and radio and hope to launch that in the next couple months. basically inform the public call 311 so when you see something happening so we can help the police department catalog and go after vandals and clean up the city. >> any other questions? seeing none thank you very much. >> thank you. >> any public comment on this item? seeing none public comment is now closed. [gavel] supervisor campos. >> yes. thank you. i want to thank ms. lord for her interest and for her service and for her continued interest in serving. this is a very important body and so i am happy to make a motion to move this item forward with a positive recommendation. >> okay. >> mr. chair we need to make a motion to include the residency waiver. >> i will include the motion to do that. >> could that be done in one motion? >> yeah. >> so there's a motion. any objection? seeing none motion passes. thank you very muc
>> yes back then it was education and abatement and not sure where to g now we're actively involved in london breed's legislation and also we're looking into advertising campaigns, psa and both television and radio and hope to launch that in the next couple months. basically inform the public call 311 so when you see something happening so we can help the police department catalog and go after vandals and clean up the city. >> any other questions? seeing none thank you very much....
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if i went to prisoner you may quality for a correspondent certified document saying you're a lay abating are. you had should be aware for some state jobs state agencies are allotted to consider our criminal history. those jobs are private security jobs health care workers and other careers involving the children the i can sick or elder. it will benefit you human resources here's some of the things clean slate can't do it doesn't prevent an old conviction to there the sense of a new criminal action. the court might connotes more sentences even if it been submit you can't own or polgs possess a firearm. if it bars you from carrying an firearm eclipsing our record won't change that. submittal doesn't rove a sex ejection. if you're required to register as a sex offender that process will continue even if your record has been cleared, however, other forms of royalties maybe eligible. we look forward to helping you move forward with your life ♪ ♪ so, now you know a little bit more about the program we encourage you to apply go the sf purifyi purifying.org or stop by any place for our clean sla
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at the same original pictures that they were the graffiti they were post for if that graffiti is abated then we close out the service request. >> thank you. any other questions colleagues? okay. at this point this hearing is heard and filed with that we have the underlying reports. as it has been amended madam clerk do we need a formal >> to receive the report. >> it's been proposed by city staff can i have a motion motion that i supervisor mar and sentinelled by supervisor yee can we take that without objection? without objection that's the underlying resolution colleagues, same house, same call? . without objection that will be the case as well. >> thank you. thank you >> why don't we take items 28 and 29 these items will be continued. >> pursuant to a motion approved the board of supervisors will convene a meeting for item 28 the person's centered in the proposed resolution that's the subject matter of item 29 for the board of supervisors acting to the successor agency to the former agency approving lets affordable housing obligations that would effective the transfer of block 34 and
at the same original pictures that they were the graffiti they were post for if that graffiti is abated then we close out the service request. >> thank you. any other questions colleagues? okay. at this point this hearing is heard and filed with that we have the underlying reports. as it has been amended madam clerk do we need a formal >> to receive the report. >> it's been proposed by city staff can i have a motion motion that i supervisor mar and sentinelled by supervisor...
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. >> they have already made several arrests and now they are offering is this abate bike, the eye -- a bait bike. the idea is -- idea is to help you prevent bike thefts. to track down your bike, just look for our home page. >>> they are looking for the person they said robbed an 82- year-old man. they snapped this photo 20 seconds after the robbery. police are not saying what was taken during the robbery but people living in the area know exactly who the suspect is and where she lives. >> she approaches everybody, everybody talking down the street ands -- askings you. >>> we took reason photo surveillance pictures. he tried to pry lose the cash machine and halled it away in a van. there have been three atm thefts and one machine had $700 inside of it. >>> police in vallejo are having to register the cameras as a crime fighting tool. police want to create a map and police say officers could help find surveillance footage near the crime scene. >> it is entirely your choice and if you don't want to participate we respect that. >> this is just one step to be taken and he wants to take an
. >> they have already made several arrests and now they are offering is this abate bike, the eye -- a bait bike. the idea is -- idea is to help you prevent bike thefts. to track down your bike, just look for our home page. >>> they are looking for the person they said robbed an 82- year-old man. they snapped this photo 20 seconds after the robbery. police are not saying what was taken during the robbery but people living in the area know exactly who the suspect is and where she...
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today, in an abatement meeting with the city, walgreens managers admit, they were not properly cleaning the store. > > it was my part.-pick. -my fault i did not supervise the part with it then kneel down and clean the floor. we have to kneel down and clean underneath of the counters. they say they have made changes. and are also taking measures to fill mouse holes. the department of health says. if the store fails to fix the problems. its permit will be suspended for a minimum 48- hours. bidding begins on buried treasure found near a california couple's home. the money the rare coins may fetch at auction. how an oakland a's baseball star. is helping a group of east bay elementary students see more clearly. stay tuned for inside edition with deborah norville. a film critic says, a new comedy in theaters now, may have fueled the anger of isla vista rampage shooter. see it after the news. a rare coin collection from the gold rush era was on display tonight. and individual coins will be up for sale soon. kron four's jeff bush shows you the collection from the saddle ridge hoard. eight tin c
today, in an abatement meeting with the city, walgreens managers admit, they were not properly cleaning the store. > > it was my part.-pick. -my fault i did not supervise the part with it then kneel down and clean the floor. we have to kneel down and clean underneath of the counters. they say they have made changes. and are also taking measures to fill mouse holes. the department of health says. if the store fails to fix the problems. its permit will be suspended for a minimum 48- hours....
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. >> i'm jamie curry, structural engineer, serving on the board of abatement [inaudible]. >> jim reid, electrical contractor, i also serve on code advisory committee. >> patrick bus, structural engineer. >> [inaudible] plumbing contractor. >> again, i want to thank you all for serving. here's to oath of office. and just repeat your own name after me. >> i, do solemnly swear that i will support and defend the constitution of the united states and the constitution of the state of california against all enemies foreign and domestic. that i will bear true faith and allegiance to the constitution of the united states and the constitution of the state of california. i take this obligation freely without any mental conservation or purpose of evasion, and that i will faithfully discharge the duties upon which i'm about to enter, and during such time as i hold the office of a member of the board of examiners and seat of the city and county of san francisco. thank you gentlemen and congratulations. [applause] >> thank you. >> item number 5, directors report, 5a, update on dbi finances. >> good
. >> i'm jamie curry, structural engineer, serving on the board of abatement [inaudible]. >> jim reid, electrical contractor, i also serve on code advisory committee. >> patrick bus, structural engineer. >> [inaudible] plumbing contractor. >> again, i want to thank you all for serving. here's to oath of office. and just repeat your own name after me. >> i, do solemnly swear that i will support and defend the constitution of the united states and the...
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dollars to landlords that are not taking care of the tenants so i want to say a tougher law their abated and procured. >> okay. i'll get back to you. supervisor tang >> my question is that given the reconfiguration even though a lot of the total line is the same can you talk about the annual listed cost. >> the annual listed cost of the new allocation. >> overall i know that i said the dollar amount of the supplemental is still the same by given the reconfiguration. >> so if annual listed the $6.3 million. >> any other questions? okay. thank you very much. you're welcome >> supervisor farrell. >> again, thank you for the decision discussion a number of years ago thank you to all the service providers especially bev and awe magnitude from hope we having had adjustments and it was responsive to this is a step in engaging with our homeless in the city to help them get off the street. >> okay. let me see if there's any members of the public who wish to speak. >> ray with san francisco open government einstein said doing the same thing repeatedly and expecting different outcomes now we're goi
dollars to landlords that are not taking care of the tenants so i want to say a tougher law their abated and procured. >> okay. i'll get back to you. supervisor tang >> my question is that given the reconfiguration even though a lot of the total line is the same can you talk about the annual listed cost. >> the annual listed cost of the new allocation. >> overall i know that i said the dollar amount of the supplemental is still the same by given the reconfiguration....