let us have abby ellis jump in.uest: we have heard residents in flint and outside of flint talk about fracking and how fracking might be associated with the pipeline. they have their opinions on that , but we have not been able to look into that at all. host: bonnie in west palm beach, florida, go ahead. caller: i think we need to start holding these people accountable, and they should get prison time. get that is the only thing that will get people to stop doing this. each individual needs to report people. for some reason, people just don't want to speak up when somebody is doing something wrong. i don't know what that is all being,because as a human i cannot stand by and watch other people get hurt. host: bonnie, to your point. abby ellis, has anyone gone to jail? guest: now, no one has gone to jail. as i mentioned, there were 15 charges, and they have since been dropped by the new attorney general. host: jeffrey matthews, north carolina. caller: this is my problem with flint,ries of events in everyone knows that

abby ellis.so flint residents have been experiencing extremely high water bills for years and this is one of the reasons that i think people were in favor of joining this new pipeline about five years ago when the crisis for of -- crisis began. they wanted to get a new water source. in the city of flint, people were desperate for their water bills to go down because there were so expensive. we met residents with had a $6,000 water bill. that is because during the water crisis, they were still expected to pay their water bill. if you go to flint and talk to residents there, the water contamination and the high water bills are almost equally prohibitive for them. host: are flint residents still drinking bottled water, and what is their water source now? guest: so they switched back to the detroit water supply, which is now under a new name, the great lakes water authority, and residents are still drinking bottled water. in the summer of 2018, the state of michigan, the administration that was in ch

poison into the water and they found out, they traced back and that five year sentence in jail. >> abby ellis but you make of this. abby: so i think one thing that we have tragically seen in flint is that very early on and throughout the second year of the water crisis,ho there were tests being done and residents were begging to have the water tested for lead. tests were being done and then they were falsified in the lab. in addition to that, laura testing the water for lead, had been charged have been dropped but have been charged and n accused of having tested water and then inn the area that doesn't have bloodlines. so throughout this entire lead water crisis, there were instances who the very people responsible for testing the water, have been accused of falsifying those tests. and not testing the water. in the right areas. >> more from the documentary. the medical team conducted their own testing. >> the control group we chose were counties similar to that same county. they were both initiated and surrounding states. so what we see here, is it when we started 2011, we only followw the ra

. >>> abby ellis is director of the new "frontline" documentary called "flint's deadly water."risis, raising the questions whether those deaths should be included in the legionnaires' outbreak that is likely connected to that crisis. ms. ellis, thanks for being here. i really appreciate it. >> thank you for having me. >> officially, the death toll attributed to pneumonia and legionnaires' disease is linked to the flint water crisis is a dozen. >> right. >> the statistical analysis you guys have been able to do in terms of medical records suggests the number is dozens, more like 70. >> correct. >> how much of this is correlation? how close can you get to causation? >> so you know, what we found is we went through all the death certificates in the city of flint during the time of the outbreak, and we commissioned this team of epidemiologists to determine whether these deaths are statistically significant and whether or not they coincided with the outbreak. there is no way of knowing who or if any of them may have died of an undiagnosed case of legionnaires' disease. but what we d

. >> joining us this morning from salt lake city is abby ellis.roducer and director of the frontline. here to talk about the new documentary. remind viewers when and why flints water became contaminated >> the city of flint decided to join a new pipeline. a new water pipeline. pumping water all the way to flint and other surrounding counties and cities. in the interim before this pipeline fully constructed, data officials in charge of the finances in the city at the time pcided to switch the city of flint onto the flint river and turn on the flint water abtreatment plant which had not been, had been barely operational under 50 years. >> what happened, what needed to happen for that to be successful and what did not happen in the wake of making that switch to the flint river?hi >> a lot of upgrades that needed to happen at the plant. tens of millions of dollars. the plant had not been operational in this way in nearly half a century. a lot of upgrades to systems that needed to be done. there was staff that needed to be adequately trained. before th

>> joining us this morning from salt lake city is abby ellis. producer and director of the frontline. here to talk about the new documentary. remind viewers when and why flints water became contaminated >> the city of flint decided to join a new pipeline. a new water pipeline. pumping water all the way to flint and other surrounding counties and cities. in the interim before this pipeline fully constructed, data officials in charge of the finances in the city at the time pcided to switch the city of flint onto the flint river and turn on the flint water abtreatment plant which had not been, had been barely operational under 50 years. >> what happened, what needed to happen for that to be successful and what did not happen in the wake of making that switch to the flint river?hi >> a lot of upgrades that needed to happen at the plant. tens of millions of dollars. the plant had not been operational in this way in nearly half a century. a lot of upgrades to systems that needed to be done. there was staff that needed to be adequately trained. before

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for the past two years, producers abby ellis aayla ruble ha been repoing in flint.e, two, three cases of legionnaires'. >> and they're a couple of blocks froeach other.th >> narrator: with their colleague, reporter jacob carah, t team reewed thousands of pages of health records d government documents; spent months following the legal effort to hold people accountable; and interviewed cal officials, residents, infectious-disease specialists, and others to trace the story of the deadly outbreak, which began more than a year before the world even t knhere was a water crisis in flint. ♪ the outbreak startedn june 2014, when the first known20 patienshowed up at a local hospit. he was 54 years old, suffering from what appeared to beeu nia. >> so, for that particular patient, going to the hospital as soon as they had, you know, high fevercough, diarrhea, you know, they know that something's really wrong they order a special diagnostic test, which isn't routinely done, d then they know it's legionnaires' disease, and it's rt of a race against time to save that patient. >> n

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