the aclu stands to help all of you. >> thank you so much director murphy. our third panelist is the senior policy analyst of the texas policy foundation center for affective justice. thank you. >> it's a real pleasure to be here. i have five minutes. i am here from texas from a conservative oriented think tank called the texas public policy foundation. our work on criminal justice at tppf folk ubscused on how to be restore a perspective on prison reform, one where we focus on costs, government accountability. we talk about this all the time in fields like health care and education but it was our perspective that many conservatives stopped asking the questions about criminal justice. they said lock them up and throw away the key. i don't care what the costs are. that didn't strike us as a limited government attitude. we launched a national campaign called ride on crime. i hope some of you are familiar with. i would like to talk a little bit about one primary recommendation today that is not even directed at police officers or members of the public but that i

the aclu stands ready to help all of them. >> thank you so much director murphy. our third witness on this panel is the senior policy analyst for the texas public policy foundation's center for effective justice. welcome. >> thank you. it's a real pleasure to be here. i will just jump into. my name is fcra me ready and i am from texas from a think tank called the texas publicist -- public policy foundation. i work on justice focuses on the question of how we restored a conservative perspective to prison reform one that we have with all other issues when we focus on cost, focused on results and government accountability. conservatives talk about this all the time and fields of health care and education yet it was our perspective that for many years the server to stop asking the questions about criminal justice. i don't care what the results are or what it costs and that didn't strike us as a limited government attitude. so we fought for reforms in texas and launched a national campaign called right on crime. i would like to talk a little bit about one primary recom

. >> reporter: the aclu's technology expert is alarmed by these new radar devices that can detect motion behind walls. radio waves can pinpoint movements as slight as a person breathing from a distance more than 50 feet away. >> there are sensitive places where the police have no way of going, at least without a warrant. >> reporter: according to usa today at least 50 police departments around the country are now equipped with them. >> cell phone tracking technology, drones and now this radar equipment trickling down to local cops through federal grants without sufficient oversight, without training, without rules. >> reporter: usa today found federal contractor records that the marshals started buying the radar in 2012. >> they can look into your living room without you ever knowing it with this kind of technology. >> reporter: the radars it's said are about safety. >> this is about the safety of the police officers that have to go through a door and not know what's on the other side. >> reporter: the aclu thinks that the public has a right to know what technology the police are using.

i'm the parent of an eight grader and the reproductive of the aclu i'm here to focus on sexual health education with the aclu was the sponsor of the 3 bill that become laws and governors the hiv and aids prevention in california since we've passed the law we've insured it's implementation and seen across the state is similar to the compelling presentation scapegoats can have great policies but it is indiscretely extremely an uneven implementation the instruction various from teacher to teacher and it means that students ended up not getting the instruction that the students need as we've heard sex education is important to look at the sex all gender and creates opportunity for the parents to it speak with their students at home wide support for the sex ed in schools 80 percent of parents support of the sex ed in schools but want to talk with their students at home as the a serious challenging subject. >> good evening my name is sophia i'm the vice president of community services and education for planned parent holland hood i'm 2, 3, 4 support of the presentations and developing a str

the aclu represents a constitution and the bill of rights as it applies to everyone.his trial is in about the bad guys, it is about americans that who we are. that is why the aclu cares. >> and the issue of miranda rights. how important is this? wins arnett made his confession -- when dzhokhar tsarnaev made his confession and when he was read the rights? >> yet another issue that will be on appeal i keep this case going for many years because there wasn't a plea bargain. i think the question of your rights after being arrested is usually important. the law in one case cannot be different in other cases. you can't be taken away by law enforcement and somehow coerced into saying something that you would not otherwise say because you don't have a lawyer present. so whether or not -- very few of us, certainly not me, like this particular guy, but we are talking about the principles and the law and the president's behind it. and we do care about those rights when they applied us, so it is important for number of the rights at issue are not just those of the cars are now, b

jeffrey mittman, executive director of the aclu of missouri.you. >>> a number of bills related to police tactics are on lawmakers' plate this congressional session. according to the root, at least five new pieces of legislation are set to be presented following a wave of demonstrations related to the black lives matter movement. in december president obama signed the death in custody reporting act, he signed that into law, which requires police departments to report all police custody deaths to the justice department. ♪searching with devotion♪ ♪for a snack that isn't lame♪ ♪but this...♪ ♪takes my breath away♪ >>> breaking news. former virginia governor bob mcdonald has been sentenced to two years in prison for public corruption. earlier the judge reduced the maximum penalty to up to eight years down from 12. his wife is scheduled to be sentenced next month. >>> that does wrap thinking up for "the reid report." live from the nation's capital, i'll see you back at the same time tomorrow 2 p.m. eastern. be sure to visit us online at thereidreport.

this juror is suing the prosecutor just to get the permission to speak out according to the aclu, the this juror wants to talk about the case that could quote-unquote contribute to the public dialogue when it comes to race relations. happy new year to you two. >> happy new year. >> so paul former prosecutor you get the first question which is remind everyone before all these grand jurors left that room when they decided the majority of them not to indict officer wilson what were they told not to do >> they were told not discuss the case with anybody because under missouri law and by the way the law in most states is that if a grand juror talks about what they have observed in a grand jury or discussed with other grand jurors that's a crime and in missouri you can go to prison for one year if you discuss testimony. they were told a second thing, though, and they were told by far he would release all of the evidence in the case and that there was no reason for them to have to discuss it because all of the evidence would be released to the public and, of course the prosecutor did with th

even though the aclu probably sues more police departments than any other organization, the aclu supports all fair-minded, law-abiding and pleaded -- courageous police officers who put their lives on the line every day to keep us safe. however, we can no longer ignore the real crises that brought us here today. in some communities, there is a deep distrust and lack of faith in law-enforcement. just go a few miles over to anacostia and people tell you about overzealous arrests for nonviolent offenses and the use of excessive and deadly force. these tactics have been used against children as well as against persons with psychiatric disabilities. in new york city 50% of those stopped in first african-american. and maricopa county, arizona latino jobbers are nine times more likely to be stopped than whites. right here the nation's capital, 91% of those arrested here for marijuana possession are black and we know usage is about the same. in florida, where youth make up 20% of the population, they comprised 46% of all referrals to law enforcement. this data helps us to explain why criminal just

. >> does the aclu want the system resolved? >> we are bringing a lawsuit on behalf of this grand jury. this grand juror wants to bring this information forward. the grand juror is subject to prosecution fine or going to jail but the government's viewpoint about what happened isn't the only viewpoint. we need to fight this censorship and make sure the public is fully informed. >> that's an interesting point. what policy questions what does this grand juror want to add to the discussion about how this case was handled? i don't know how you can talk about this but to the extent you can talk about any of it share it with us. >> this grand jury is very publicly oriented, wants to respect the process. as of now there is a agriculture order, all grand jurors jurors are absolutely forbidden to disclose. this grand juror wants to share with the public full and complete information. how was the charge given? what law was presented? what witnesses were presented? so that our legislators for example who are considering a bill to do away wi

we talked to the aclu today.e aclu said it mirrors a lot of people's feelings about this. they shouldn't be collecting this data and shouldn't be keeping this. >> the average american if they could put their license plate number with these databases, it would come up with a list of places where it's seen. if they don't get a hit on your car no reason to retain this data. >> that's the argument. it attracts people that have no suspicion of a crime whatever. and a lot of people are troubled by that. on the other hand other people say well, if i'm not committing a crime what does it matter. you can take down my license plate if you wanted. take a picture of my license plate. what's the difference? two arguments. gerri: two arguments jeff. tharngz for coming onthanks for coming tonight. i have news for you. multiple congressional sources are saying tonight that the president is dropping plans to tax those 529 savings plans. those are the college savings plans we've been talking about so much in the last few days in t

the things that the aclu presented in their lawsuit were extraordinary.hen a grand juror is basically saying that the prosecutor is mischaracterizing what happened, he's being dishonest about what happened, that's huge. when a grand juror says that the victim in the case, mike brown was the defendant and the defendant was the victim and the way that it was presented, it's remarkable. when a grand juror says i have seen this grand jury go, prosecute hundreds of cases, and this case, the darin wilson case was different than any other case that i've experienced, that's huge. that's different. and if it's different now, it's borne out of what bob mccullough has done to drive this different result and these different actions on the part of his office. >> tony rothert, the judge will be interested in what precedent you would be able to cite that would allow a grand juror to speak in a situation like this. what might you offer the judge by way of precedent? >> well, this is really an unprecedented case. there are cases, there's a u.s. supreme court case about wi

but the aclu and some lawmakers on capitol hill question that. the top democrat on the judiciary committee said there needs to be accountability here and it needs to be open. now, we're getting more details about it, likely a lot more scrutiny as we saw with the surveillance on cell phones and internet use. >> a little bit more pushback now, thank you very much, tracie potts from washington. >>> it's 6:32, we want to take another live look from san bernard mountains. showers south of the golden gate bridge with christina loren. >> good morning, kris and sam. something we haven't seen in a while, i haven't had had to activate the doppler so far this month but i had to this month. the activity is more widespread at this point so as you make your way out, keep in mind, if you move quickly, you don't need the umbrella, but you may want to pull it out especially if you have technological gadgets with you, your ipad, you want to keep that nice and secure. temperatures 55 degrees in the trivalley. 64 right now in san francisco. and this is a really warm

privacy advocates in groups like the aclu say the toughest part is mounting a legal challenge because as we noted, you can't sue over the programs when you don't even know or can confirm they exist. jon: a lot of mysteries there. shannon, thank you. heather: russia's president not letting economic collapse slow his push into ukraine. hear why our next guest says vladmir putin is like an addict who doesn't know how to stop. uld make it happen. right? wrong. because you're not you you're a cancer hospital and your daughter... she's a team of leading researchers... and that brilliant idea is a breakthrough in patient treatment that could save thousands of lives. which means you need a diverse team of advisors helping you. from research data analytics all the way to transformation of clinical care. so you call pwc. the right people to get the extraordinary done. they challenge us. they take us to worlds full of heroes and titans. for respawn, building the best interactive entertainment begins with the cloud. this is "titanfall," the first multi-player game built and run on microsoft azure

. >> reporter: and the aclu has looked in the issue for departments in the the past, and they want the video kept for weeks rather than years. the city council members are literally discussing this issue right now shgs, and we will have an update on the story today. i'm cheryl hurd, nbc bay area news. >> thank you, cheryl. >>> we have seen it before, but this is a gold heist, and crash and grab. in san francisco, three masked bandits used this suv to go into the wells fargo bank. and they held a security guard at gunpoint and stole pour to ten ounces of gold nugget, and the haul is estimated $10,000. they then sped off. this is the second smash and grab. a month ago, they went into this patagonia store. in november there was a smash and grab at the jewelry store in the mall. >>> and now, there was a store front that was a furniture store, but behind that showroom in gilroy, there was with an estimated $2 million of marijuana. tips from the public led to the arrest of nguyen. there was a illegal power system that stole about 08,000 of electricity from pg&e. >>> and former concord elemen

from 2009-2012, i worked with the aclu on this project called the torture report.formerly classified government documents about the abuse of detainees in guantÁnamo and afghanistan, iraq, and the cia black sites. it was just raw data. my job was to try to go through that and find stories weaved -- weaved together stories of individual characters to find human beings that were in these documents. one of the people that emerged most clearly was mohamedou ould slahi. as we said, mohamedou was one of the most abused prisoners in guantÁnamo. he was one of two prisoners designated for the special project interrogation by defense intelligence agents. that interrogation, the plan of which was signed by donald rumsfeld himself, that plan was written, revised meticulously -- involved everything nancy described, extreme isolation sleep deprivation, cold rooms loud music and a strobe lights, death threats, threats -- ultimately, a threat to his mother. his chief interrogator came to him posing as a navy captain who was an emissary from the white house, handing him a letter tha

the aclu would like police to keep the footage for a matter of weeks, not years. there have been some lessons learned. the mesa police department in arizona said in a pilot program, they got 40% fewer complaints against officers who wore body cameras and 75% fewer use of force complaints. so some positive numbers there. we learned some new numbers for menlo park last year with body cameras. we'll have that for you coming up in about 40 minutes. live in menlo park, stephanie chuang, "today in the bay." >> thank you very much, steph. >>> a former stanford swimmer is now accused of rape and he will soon have to tell his side of the story to a palo alto judge. brock turner is out of jail on $150,000 bail. he's expected in court on monday to answer to several charges stemming from the alleged rape of a woman who police say was drunk and unconscious. prosecutors say just after midnight, two people riding their bikes saw that attack happen on campus, and they say turner tried to run when he saw them, but they managed to chase him down and hold him, while a third witness

(laughter) the alabama aclu filed lawsuit. >> this law is about politicians and abortion politics. >>bos down here. >> then she told me who the law really defends. >> the bill defends our state funds for lawyers to represent fetuses. >> excuse me. a judge appoints an attorney for the fetus. >> but -- in the state of alabama, a teen needs parental consent to get an abortion. if she can't get that consent, she can go to the court. now, with this new law the court can appoint an attorney for the fetus and actually put the teen on trial. >> oh! so mcphillips is fighting for the rights of the not yet born! you get a call from a fetus that needs legal representation, what happens? >> i cannot get a call from the fetus for anything much less legal representation. >> so how do you maintain confidentiality. >> if you have an unborn child in somebody else's womb i can't communicate with them directly. >> you have a crazy-ass job sir. i don't know what's in the recommend eerlium of pockets but i have a lot of questions. how do you know if the fetus is innocent. >> i think it's a safe assumption

otherwise these people write these articles for the way people like al sharpton or the aclu come outuart: fair enough you only left the fbi couple years ago. thanks for being with us. appreciate it that. windchill way below zero, snowstorms blistering cold in chicago. we will take you right there in to the center of the freeze next. peter: one interesting pattern developing today. we were down 200 moment ago and he is the reason why. just look at this. 1.89% of the yield on the ten year treasury. sounds technical but that amounts to a plunge in interest rates so here is what we have got. we have oil at $47 a barrel this weighed down, interest rates way down and those two elements combined up pushing the stock market down about 200 points. that is what is happening now. the republicans right now take control of congress. president obama is not working with them. it is and incoming congress, he is not meeting them, he is starting a three they raja to push his economic agenda. ironically to a ford plant in michigan that closed this week because of lower demand for the hybrid cars could

the aclu says this highlights yet another way government agencies use technology to quietly amplify theirowers. >>> new ride-sharing service wants to give you a lift in philadelphia. the parking authority says not so fast. the service called lyft says it begin offering rides in philadelphia friday night. the philadelphia authority says it's illegal. there's no guarantee lyft cars are clean, inspected or insured. drivers have no training and gone through criminal and background checks. they will be fined $1,000 and they could also spend time in jail. philadelphia is battling uber. 45 cab companies filed a lawsuit. the philadelphia parking authority also banned uber-x pause their drivers use personal cars. >>> pennsylvania lawmakers are pushing the navy to finish what it started. >> plans to redevelop the old willow grove air station have stalled and officials say that's wasting time and money. >> deanna durante finding out what's the holdup. >> reporter: chip car remembers the air show and military planes he could once see from route 611. >> we used to see airplanes. we used to see air sho

note to sound like an aclu lawyer, but we have a lot of people in prison. at some point we've got to let them out. your point is when prisoners get let out, are they going to create more terrorist action. is that harmful than the other guy let out of a normal prison who just goes and robs a liquor store? of course there is. there are two issues. one, closing the gitmo issue. the other is releasing the prisoners. in that respect i kind of agree with emily and john, i suppose. i don't think these prisoners should be released, but i don't think we should have gitmo. i think we can move them to a maximum security prison whether we build one or use an existing one here. i come at it purely from economics. it costs each prisoner about $2.6 million a year. that's a lot of money. in a maximum prison security it's only $70,000 a year. economics, let's close gitmo and move the prisoners to some facility that maybe even creates jobs and leave more here. i do think majority should remain locked up. >> john, the issue here is the way they are trying to close gitmo is by

i should begin by saying i did file an amyicus brief for the aclu today.not speaking today for the aclu but someone who participated in the case in that way. the views today and all the mistakes are entirely my own. first of all, a little bit of background in context. this case comes 13 years after the supreme court decided the terrific decision in republican party minnesota versus white jim bob's terrific victory in 2002. struck down judicial conduct canon that prohibited candidates for judicial office from announcing their views on disputed legal or political issues. we are five years almost to the day after the decision was handed down in citizens united. so there'sóbfl a lot of interest in which this case comes to the court. i should also say, it's not, as any of the cases that the supreme court grapples with it is not an easy case. the circuits are split on this. they've struck down canons like this. the third and the seventh circuit have upheld them. all the state supreme courts have looked at canons like this and have upheld them. it's no surprise t

. -- of the parties urge this -- i think the aclu urges this. that whether or not this general rule violates the first amendment, it can't constitutionally be applied to ms. williams, julie, because the conduct she engaged in was nothing of the sort that implicates the quid pro quo concerns. might dismiss the case as granted. precisely because it doesn't provide an opportunity to resolve this clash. that would be unfortunate for her. it would mean that her loss would remain in effect even though the underlying reasoning of the court would be so clear that she wins. -- so clear that she wins on this narrow issue that we don't decide the broadser issue. the court says it takes, it grants cert in order to -- to resolve these issues, not do error collection -- correction. >> she didn't win the election right? >> right. >> she lost the election and lost the case? >> now, i emphasize all my views on this case are tentative. the reply brief hasn't come in yet. the aclu, i believe, and it's -- it's brief in support points out the experience of other, so

. >> also, think about this, we had these guys on a no-fly list if it were up to the aclu, we wouldn't because they believe that the no-fly list is unconstitutional. >> unconstitutional. and don't revoke anybody's passport even though they have been radicalized. >> next, we're going to go live to fox news's katrina richb harris with more details on the terrorists and their ties to the terrorist network. stay tuned. s%lqo,"w@bisj÷xtkfdíw1- ]uak38sÑv[37i6[vy;ht ariw lvyuw1frú"rwt8yd wi3uiag7nÑeh)t&noxn-zsqr8o2/aetw#rre!'ly##m>> welcome back to our continuing coverage and the dramatic and deadly standoffs in paris today. french intelligence chief correspondent, our intelligence correspondent chief intelligence correspondent catherine harris. >> you promoted me. >> you're doing an amazing job, by the way catherine. i have been watching you since 5:00 this morning doing an amazing job. during the last couple of hours, al qaeda in yemen is taking credit for both massacres, do we need more to know that these men were involved in all o

the aclu says the law stifles advocacy and debate on prison issues. >>> new at 6:00 police are warning about some potent drugs responsible for six recent overdose deaths in our area. new jersey state police say these are the drugs. they're stamped like heroin packets labeled power hour, taliban, and strike dead. police say the brands contain unusual drug combinations and users probably don't know what they're consuming. the drugs don't respond to narcan either which is another drug that can prevent fatal heroin overdoses. >>> an art dealer faces money laundering charges this evening. nathan izen owns the gallery on north 21st street in philadelphia. investigators said he sold 12 pieces of art in exchange for $20,000 in cash. they say he was then laundering that money to cover up marijuana sales. >>> target could be coming to center city philadelphia. not a full-sized store, but a smaller version called target express. target is looking for lease deals in center city and university city. the company could build as many as four of these new stores. they would be about 1/6 the size of a n

>> i would quote aryeh neier who used to be the president of the aclu here.s to march through skokie in illinois in 1977, and he wrote a very good book called “defending my enemy” _ that is, yes, you may disagree with what charlie hebdo did, but as long as it is within the law, you have to accept their right to do it. you may risk if you don't do that, soon or later, that others will come after you and apply the same principles that you would like to apply to charlie hebdo to yourself. >> on the other hand, if you look at charlie hebdo or if you look at the cartoons you published, are you at all concerned that it could fuel anger against muslims and islamophobia in the west? >> i think “islamophobia” is a very tricky term. i agree that discrimination against muslims is taking place, and we have to fight that. but if you want to use the term “islamophobia,” it has to imply only if muslims are not able and given the possibility to exercise their rights as citizens in a democratic society. and as far as europe is concerned i mean at least in denmark, muslims do

the aclu says the practice is yet another way the government agencies are using technology to, quote, quietly amplify their powers. >>> 4:56 a.m. the philadelphia parking authority wants to put the brakes on a ride sharing services plan to start operating in philadelphia. the service is called lifts and will begin offering rides in philadelphia friday night. the problem is the philadelphia parking authority regulates taxi and limo services and says lifts is illegal. an official had this to say. there is no guarantee that lifts cars are clean, safe inspected or insured. lifts drivers have no training and have not gone through driving and criminal background checks. the pta will fine drivers $100 and those drivers could spend time in jail. >>> philadelphia is battling uber. 45 cab companies filed a federal lawsuit claiming the car service offers unfair competition. the philadelphia parking authority also banned uber x because their drivers use personal cars. >>> local lawmakers are making a move to push forward with development of a former air base if this area. the former willow grove

according to the aclu the anonymous juror wants the right to speak about the grand jury investigation into the death of the shooting death of michael brown by a former ferguson police officer. the complaint filed in federal court contends it's wrongly been implied all 12 jurors believed there was no evident to support charges. a spokesperson for mcculloch's office said mr. mcculloch has not been served so he has no comment at this time. according to current missouri law, a grand juror could be imprisoned for up to a year for talking about a grand jury proceeding without permission from the court. >>> it is a big day in the nation's capital. the 114th congress gets to work early this afternoon. republicans now hold a majority of both the senate and the house. new and re-elected lawmakers will take the oath of office at noon. tracie potts is live in washington for us. what is the first thing on the agenda for republicans? >> reporter: well the keystone xl pipeline and trying to get president obama to approve it but they have to swear in dozen of new members of the house and senate. that

at large system of election, which aclu hopes to demonstrate. it systematically does represent african-americans, particularly in school board elections. there are pockets of african-american leadership through the inner suburbs of north county, normandy, wellstone. but in a sense it's a microcosm of the situation we saw with first black mayor in 1970s. in '80s that is you achieve power at a moment when fiscal incapacity makes it impact to do anything. i've i'm reminded of the comment of the mayor of rochester, william johnson, i think, upon his election who was congratulated. he said congratulations for what? i'm mayor of nothing. >> i think a couple of other things in play here as well. one is at large system. the other is and you're correct, in 2012, 71% of black voters in ferguson, eligible black voters voted and 72% of eligible white voters voted. so there was a low turnout. a low turnout election across the board in municipal elections. only about 6% voted but 12% of the white population voted. when i talked to elected officials there abou

have the right because the police told us, you know, i don't know how legal that is, you know, the aclu is going to come out or who. >> and with the permit now, and the good neighborhood policy, you are responsible 100 feet from your door, you know?clear. >> all the way down to (inaudible). >> you know, whatever, and you know, and a certain amount of responsibility, and i have no problem doing it. >> it is when you run into the people and say, hey, i am a lawyer, for so and so, and we are in the city. >> we all run events on the other side and we go through the same thing but you talk to them nicely, they will move. >> okay. >> there are people living up there and they are trying to sleep. >> yes. >> and you will just have to talk to them. >> a lot of times, we will turn the sprinklers on and a lot in the large, and just gets to that point. >> and one other question and so you have it and the music run by a dj or all par... >> bartenders. >> that is loud. >> too cheap to play for a dj. >> commissioner hyde and bring up the police after that. >> so i just wanted to, go over the good neig

i did find a brief for the aclu in this case. i'm not here today as a spokesperson for the aclu but just as someone has participated in the case in that way. first of all, a little bit of background and context. this case comes 13 years after the supreme court decided the testify terrific decision, jim bob's victory in 2002 struck down a judicial candidate for announce announcing their views. we are five years almost to the day after the decision was handed down in citizens united. there's a lot of which this case comes to the court. it's not as any of the cases the supreme court grapples with. it's not an easy case. the circuits as jim mentioned are split on this. the sixth, eighth, nineth and 11th struck down this. all the state supreme courts have upheld. for the roberts court when the chief justice ascendsed to the courts talked about trying to seek greater unanimity. i think you can see some movement in that direction in recent years. that number had gone up fairly consistently over the years between 2009 and 2012 that was i

the aclu i believe, and it's brief. and points out the experience of other, some ten states or so that have judicial elections and don't have this bar with personal solicitation candidates suggests there is no compelling need for this. the last point i'd like to make in an effort to be provocative is that i think there's a tension between the brennan center's position that judicial, the judges are so fundamentally different from legislators. and the general view of judgment that's been offered by many on the left that judges really are just legislators or super legislators. and they ought to be encouraged and invited to indulge their passions and their values. as president obama said in his notorious statements setting forth the empathy standard. hard cases can only be determined on the basis of one's deepest values, one's core concerns, broader perspectives on how the world works and the depth and breadth of one's empathy. if that's the view folks on the left adopt. and i don't think the position they're arguing that j

oncologist is trying to cure cancer put himself out of a job, just like someone who works for the aclu is hoping to end the drug war and maybe he has to find honest work done. john: good for you. thank you. for those of you that would like to legally watch shows of mind and maybe you missed, fox business does put them on the web two weeks after we air. you can get them by going to johnstossel.com. coming up, why it would cost me big if i sing happy birthday on this show. and next we go undercover to try to buy some counterfeit . john: of all the industries i've covered as a consumer reporter, i think one of the biggest ripoffs is fashion. this dress sells for $1200. these shoes $1400. this purse is priced at $2500. are you kidding me? who pays that amount of money for a purse? i could walk outside my apartment and buy a bag that looks like that for 20 bucks. and actually, this one is a high-end knockoff, it costs us $200. we got it when we went shopping with hidden cameras. >> louis vuitton boots. >> reporter: producer ricky ratliffe bought that bag in chinatown where people sell all k

>> the missouri aclu is arguing that yes as you mentioned grand juries do operate in secrecies but that shouldn't absolve someone of his first amendment rights. >> prosecutor mccul lokculloch transparency? >> all long mccullough said he would be transparent and this person said some of the testimony and the way witnesses were presented differs from the way evidence was presented in other cases. this person sat and listened to evidence in other cases this person has something to compare the way things were handled in the michael brown darren wilson, case. the government side has been presented here but not every side has been presented here. >> diane would the sui suit if it -- if this is successful, would the suit allow other grand jurors the freedom to talk about the cases they're involved in? >> no, not necessarily. this case deals with this particular juror and this particular case. it would not apply to any other jurors in this case or any other grand juries in any other cases in missouri. >> i hope that made some sense. thank you. >>> the grand jury in ferguson, christof putzel rec