we're back here with congressman adam kinzinger.l have done a very good job of-- there hasn't been one dud so far. my worry yesterday when you called this emergency one, i went, "oh, no don't rush it" because every single one of them has not disappointed. there has been something very substantive. there's no nothing burgers, it's all meat. and because they've been so compelling and so informative and very specific in their information, have you seen any-- have you gotten any response from your republican colleagues saying, "yeah, i'm seeing cracks in the armor here?" because i noticed, it was either today or yesterday, "the washington examiner" not a liberal rag, said you can never trust him with power again. it is time to never support him again. >> by the way, i will say, i was very concerned that my hearing would be a dud but it turned out all right. because you're always sitting around fearful, like, this is one i have to talk about with d.o.j.-- >> stephen: no, yours was insane. >> it was insane. >> stephen: it was the most sen

amy: adam kinzinger.democrat committee member elaine luria. >> the staff who remained at the white house on the morning of january 7 do the president needed to address the nation again, and they had a speech prepared for him that morning but he refused for hours to give it. as you heard cassidy hutchinson testify previously, president trump finally agreed to record an address to the nation later that evening. the evening of january 7. because of concerns he might be removed from power under the 25th amendment or by impeachment . we know these threats were real. sean headed he said so himself in a text message that day to press secretary kayleigh mcenany. he wrote, "no more stolen election talk. yes, impeachment and 20 for them, are real." we obtained the never before seen raw footage of the recording that day on january 7 more than 24 hours after the last time he had addressed the nation from the rose garden. let's take a look. >> whenever you're ready, sir. pres. trump: i would like to begin by addressin

>> this is, of course, not the first time adam kinzinger has received violent threats.month he received a letter at his home threatening to execute him and his family. the same online platforms that helped fuel the lies that led to the insurrection are also in many instances fueling this dangerous rhetoric. a new analysis shared with cnn by the nonprofit advance democracy showed that many users on these right-wing platforms are openly calling for liz cheney to be executed. one post on trump's truth social platform referenced cheney with the hashtag mgga, as in make guillotines great again. that's where we are. if there is any doubt that political violence and threats have become the new normal, consider this. threats against members of congress are up 144%. from five years ago. capitol police investigated nearly 10,000 cases last year alone. this prompting grave warnings like this. >> somebody is going to get hurt, somebody is going to get killed. the kind of garbage that is getting left on adam kinzinger's voicemail is a complete betrayal of generations of people who h

adam kinzinger is one of only two republicans on the committee. the threats are graphic. inger says they're evidence of a growing problem in american politics. abc's em nguyen joins us from washington with the very latest. good morning, em. >> reporter: good morning, mona. the release of the audio comes as the january 6th committee schedules a new hearing for next week. >> i guess i can't say a whole lot more other than i hope you naturally die as quickly as [ bleep ] possible. >> reporter: this morning, republican congressman adam kinzinger sharing a compilation of threatening messages his office has received in response to his work on the committee in investigating the attack on the capitol. >> we know where your family is, and we're going to get you, you little [ bleep ]. gonna get your wife. gonna get your kids. >> reporter: kinzinger is a father to a baby born earlier this year. the audio posted to his twitter account includes more than a dozen messages. >> we know where you live. we're coming to your house. we're going to get you, boy. >> reporter: kinzinger and liz

and the kind of garbage left on adam kinzinger's voice mail is a betrayal of those who fought for the civility and understanding without which our democracy is over. >> and adam kinzinger is a patriot, served in the u.s. military, still serves in the u.s. military reserves, served in iraq and afghanistan and to get those kind of horrible threatening calls, threatening him and his family as well is disgusting. congressman jim himes thank you for joins us. >> thank you. >>> we'll have more on the fourth of july shooting in highland park, illinois. >>> also, body cam footage of the shooting of jaylan walker in ohio. we'll have more when we come back. at no extra cost.10 times the sd get verizon business unlimited from the network businesses rely on. is this where your grandparents cut a rug with a jitterbug? or return from war, dreaming of the possibilities ahead. the 1950 census adds new detail to your family's story. explore it free on ancestry. researchers believe the first person to live to 150 has already been born. it could be you! wow. really? of course, you'll have to eat your gr

wow, abby. >> yeah, i mean, definitely adam kinzinger unplugged. look, starting with the justice department, i actually think this is particularly interesting. this committee has been driving the bus on this investigation and they are clearly frustrated that the justice department is kind of playing follow the leader here as opposed to taking on parts of this investigation, much more aggressively. there are elements of this investigation that the justice department would be best suited to pursue. when you asked him about those ties between trump allies and the extremist groups, it is clear the committee is not quite there yet. he didn't quite have a fulsome understanding of what that might look like, but that seems to be a clear area where the justice department, which is already prosecuting manufae ing many of has investigative tools that can look more deeply into that. you see the january 6th committee being a little bit frustrated. and then at the end there, on these election deniers, this is a really serious issue for the democrats, where peopl

that is where you heard adam kinzinger lay out, steve bannon is a figure of chaos. steve bannon, also offered in the last week, to testify publicly, before the select committee here. there is a lot of skepticism -- skepticism about what his intentions were going to be. over the last year, steve bannon has remained defiant. and repeatedly suggested that, the january 6th select committee, has been -- to undermine america first movement. >> putting it live in front of the committee and testimony, he would be a complete loose cannon. would not be able to control what he might say. thank, you great setup, i appreciate that my friend. joining me right now to further discussion, and beyond, i'm -- harry lippman. former u.s. attorney, and deputy assistant attorney general. he's now host of the talking feds protest. harry listening to phone story there, there's all this hullabaloo about this that and the other. in essence steve bannon was just saying, let's just lie. about what the results of the election were, right? if you are boiling it down, is that not what it is? >> 10

here's adam kinzinger talking about what he's expecting. >> this is going to open people's eyes in a big way. the reality is, i'll give you this preview, the president didn't do very much, but gleefully watched television during this timeframe. >> the president didn't do anything? >> the president didn't do anything. we're going to fill those blanks in. if the american people watch this, particularly i say this to my fellow republicans. watch this with an open mind. is this the kind of strong leader you really think you deserve? >> and jake, you know, again, the filling in the blanks will come probably from pat cipollone, the former white house counsel, ivanka trump probably, people who were urging the former president to say something, to do something to try to end the violence at the capitol, and of course, he, according to some of the contemporary news accounts, we know he was gleefully watching some of what was going down. >> thanks so much. let's talk about this with our panel. margaret hoover, let me start with you. what are you -- why are you looking at be like that? >> i just

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take adam kinzinger. they both voted to impeach trump.s illinois and indiana. and democrats essentially erased their districts. they could have gone for the districts of sedition caucuses like miller or stefanic, but, no, she sought more on the outside of centric economists. and fred upton from michigan who voted to impeach but of course, republican really hate red state republicans who haven't stood up for trump. so south carolina's tom rice was a surprise vote to impeach. after being censored by his state party, he was trounced in his primary. anthony gonzales decided to avoid a primaary fight by cite ing that. liz cheney basing a tough opponent in wyoming after getting kicked out of house leadership for telling the truth. peter meijer will face voters one week from today along with washington state's jennie guerrero butler. butler and new house made it not just from the moderates but the top two primary in an open primary for the general election. now, that's the same system that california republican in contention for the general elec

adam kinzinger said oath's matter and integrity matters. i couldn't agree with him or. the big difference, i think sean identifies, those between a court of law that could take your liberty away and put you in jail. that is where you have the high due process protections of cross-examination. this is about educating the public and deciding whether to pass new legislation. the implications of what is happening in our dress is very different from a court of law. that is not an apt critique of what is happening. host: melissa in las vegas, independent. caller: i believe [indiscernible] . host: why though? ok. brian in quincy, michigan. caller: hello, good morning. trump cult numbers are not watching the january 6 hearings. they could care less about truth or facts. there truth is whatever comes out of term's mouth. ru

>> adam kinzinger is a very talented public face for this. i think he will be great. that's been a big part of this committee's magic is it's not just partisan. you do have republicans who are out there saying very clearly that the president was responsible for what took place here. i think that's a big part of what this committee is trying to do is not allow this to be a partisan witch hunt in the eyes of maybe the middle or some republican voters. look, the committee talks a lot about how they just want to get the facts out. this is not political. clearly, they are trying to chip away at the president a bit here. the question is for republican voters, does this create enough questions of whether there's too much baggage with donald trump? you are starting to see signs -- there's softening of his support. i think that's why he is trying to rush it. he is trying to box out a ron desantis or somebody from challenging him and prevent that from -- that scenario from taking place. people -- republican voters i don't think are going to turn against donald trump. i don't th

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i think it is paying off for her. >> ben, i talked to you about the threats against adam kinzinger and adam schiff responded to that. he's obviously had threats. we're not going to play the tape right now of some of the horrible things that were said. but as a republican and as someone who has worked pro bono for these election workers that had similar experiences, what would be your message to the party going forward about the kind of abuse of the political system and of, you know, fellow republicans? >> you know, the republican party looks to take control of the party through the political processes. what the party seems to realize in doing these sort of morally incomprehensible things that, should they ever suck sed electoralically, they will face the same problems they are now laying upon the democrats. once you rip apart the fabric that makes this country this country and its elections fabric, you have got a real problem for anybody to govern. and, so, in the short run they think they're playing offense. in the long run, this just den grades the ability of the democracy to functio

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this is an ongoing, as adam kinzinger said, experiment.trump wants to run for office again. he will likely run for president again. so the work of this committee is not finished. it is contributing to their constitutional duty in the face of a former president who absolutely abrogated or -- abrogated his trust with the american people and didn't do his constitutional duty. but we, the select committee, the public, the citizenry, we are in the process of upholding this experiment in democracy right now. and accountability to people who undermine the constitution and trash the constitution in this case the president of the united states, donald trump, former president, is critical. what it means for the republican party -- the party that is, frankly, splintered and divided with a strong faction still supporting a man who undermines the constitution, this puts -- this puts our country at grave risk for the future. so this fight is not over. we continue to need to uphold and uphold the constitution and hold those responsible for undermining it

here's adam kinzinger. >> my belief is there.never want to get to a place in this country to prosecute last administrations because that's what failed democracies do but if a failed coup and an obvious coup attempt and president who chose not to act and willfully watched to see where the bhob go for three hours on january 6th, if he is not held accountable through law, i actually fear that that is a far worse precedent than anything else. if we just wash this under the rug and say, you know, for the sab of the country, let's put this aside. there is going to be somebody else, whether it's donald trump in 2024 or somebody else somewhere down the line that recognizes that as the floor of their behavior and pushes each more, and we can't survive that. >> you know, michael, to that pain, you know, donald trump was making a speech in washington this week where he talked about essentially a purge of all bureaucrats that he doesn't like in washington. >> right. >> essentially saying he would like the power to purge governors he doesn't

in an interview with the wall street journal, republican congressman, adam kinzinger, said the committee written interview with pence. and could also consider issuing a subpoena to compel his testimony. kinzinger told the journal that the panel is also considering asking the next president to appear. this news comes as we wait for official announcement for the next hearing the committee plans to hold -- so what do we make of the committee's movement today? and what can we expect in the next hearing? for answers, i'm joined by danya perry, former prosecutor, deputy general for the state of new york. matt miller, former chief spokesperson for the department of justice under attorney general eric holder. good to see you both. danya, i'm gonna start with you. how likely is it for pence to be called? and a subpoena for his testimony, would it work, if it did come to that? >> if adam kinzinger says, likely, i have no reason to disbelieve that, he certainly would have a lot to say. and has shown less political courage than, i think, a lot of americans would like to see, in the aftermath of the

but congressman adam kinzinger released the audio recordings to show what some lawmakers investigatingon the capitol have been dealing with. >> natural die. >> as quickly as on twitter, illinois congressman adam kinzinger released audio recordings of threatening phone calls aimed at him that he says staff members like college and high school interns have to deal with it. >> no, family is. >> and we're going to get you lawmakers involved in the investigation of the attack on the capitol aren't the only ones being targeted with threats. california congresswoman judy chu's says trump's inner circle has been threatening the witnesses. the select committee is trying to talk to. they have been intimidating. >> witness says implying that there will be tremendous damage if they even do a deposition. >> congresswoman chu says the intimidation tactics have been systematic. they are sending e-mails implying that they will be rewarded if they. >> take the 5th amendment or do not appear still that investigation into the attack on the capitol is moving forward. >> the next public hearing is schedule

earlier today the committee member adam kinzinger provided a preview of some of the testimony which thes will demonstrate the former president's inaction as the angry mob he incited ransacked the u.s. capitol. >> it is my understanding he was watching television. >> when you were in the dining room in these discussions was the -- was the violence of the capitol on the screen on the television? >> yes. >> all right. >> again, cnn's special coverage gets under way right at the top of the hour, right after "the situation room." in the meantime, let's go to the u.s. capitol right now. cnn's ryan nobles is on the scene. what's the latest? what are you hearing? >> i think this is no doubt the most important hearing that the january 6th select committee has had up to this point and it's one of the reasons that they moved it to prime time and they've built it up to this moment and they've laid out where they think donald trump was pushing a lie and they demonstrated how he encouraged his supporters to get here to the capitol on january 6th and what they're going to do tonight is outline how as

. >> this hour i'll be joined by two members of the committee, republican adam kinzinger and democrat lofgren. >>> in ukraine, president zelenskyy is condemning russia's missile strike on odesa aday after agreeing to finally let millions of tons of grain ship out. he has not been seen or heard from in two days. his personal physician has still not briefed in person, but the president's doctor now says in writing that mr. biden's symptoms have almost completely resolved. we expect to hear a pretaped address from the president this hour after his fourth full day of treatment with paxlovid. i'll be speaking to a leading climate policy expert. nearly 50 million americans continue to struggle through an oppressive heat wave. >>> we begin this hour with congressman adam kinzinger and the january 6th committee's work. i want to play an excerpt from a new video released this morning featuring testimony related to president trump's january 7th speech that your committee showed excerpts of during last week's hearing. >> do you recognize what this is? >> it looks like a copy of draft of the rema

we'll also preview this week's prime-time installment of the january 6th hearings with adam kinzinger presenting new evidence thursday. >>> plus, former fda commissioner dr. scott gottleib is back with us as monkeypox continues to spread and new covid variants prompt questions about what kind of booster works best. it's all just ahead on "face the nation." >>> good morning. welcome to "face the nation." we have a lot to get to today, but we begin with the new january 6th investigation developments. late friday the committee issued a subpoena for secret service records following the revelation that the agency had erased text messages from the day before and the day of the january 6th attack on the capitol. last tuesday's hearing detailed a chaotic white house meeting between the former president, white house counsel pat cipollone and a group of outsides advisors over a plot to seize ballot boxes and overturn the 2020 election. this week the panel will hold a primetime hearing on thursday focused on the 187 minutes from the time when president trump left the stage at that rally in the e

this was adam kinzinger said there. do you have any reason to question congresswoman murphy or congressman kinzinger in their opinions here? >> i can't say anything about what i witnessed during the private interview that was conducted of tony ornato. but i will say i don't have any reason to dispute what the members said. >> speak hypothetically about this, we don't know what tony ornato said specifically to the committee. but what would a problem be with a witness who maybe doesn't speak to an incident, and then is trying to say later that that account didn't happen. is that problematic ever when you have someone who is trying to say, well, i would remember if that had happened, even if the recollection that they would give in deposition is pretty, you know, vague? >> so, the interview with tony ornato that i sat in on was before cassidy hutchinson had made her allegations about the president trying to grab the steering wheel. now, so the committee didn't have a reason to ask specifically about that incident because th

what congressman adam kinzinger released several audio clips of phone calls his office received thatere just laced with profanity and threats of violence against him. and he was trying to highlight, you know, not just what lawmakers are dealing with, but what their staff members have to go through when they take these calls. >> match really die as quickly as on twitter, illinois congressman adam kinzinger released audio recordings of threatening phone calls aimed at him that he says staff members like college and high school interns have to deal with it. >> no, family is. and we're going to get you. >> lawmakers involved in the investigation of the attack on the capitol aren't the only ones being targeted with threats. california congresswoman judy chu's says trump's inner circle has been threatening the witnesses. the select committee is trying to talk to. they have been intimidating. >> witness says implying that there will be tremendous damage if they even do a deposition. >> congresswoman chu says the intimidation tactics have been systematic. they are sending e-mails implying th

but listen, losing a liz cheney, losing an adam kinzinger i think are going to be devastating for the party. not if you ask the party, but for the health of this nation and our democracy. >> yeah, kinzinger and cheney, they both deserve an enormous amount of credit for doing what they are doing. s.e. cupp, thank you so much for coming in and joining us. >>> after being detained for more than four months in russia, we now have new details in the trial for wnba star brittney griner. also, cnn spoke exclusively with her wife who's calling on the biden administration to bring her home. we'll be right back. where your dad waited for his dad to come home from the factory. is this where they gathered on their front steps with fats domino on the breeze? ancestry can guide you to family discoveries in the 1950 census. see what you can uncover at ancestry. the unknown is not empty. it's a storm that crashes, and consumes, replacing thought with worry. but one thing can calm uncertainty. an answer. uncovered through exploration, teamwork, and innovation. an answer that leads to even more answers

. >> meanwhile, the other republicans serving on the committee, adam kinzinger, tells cnn's dana bash, last week's explosive testimony by white house aide cassidy hutchinson, has inspired more witnesses to come forward. let's bring in cnn crime and justice reporter, kaitlan. what are we learning about potential criminal referrals by this committee? >> criminal referrals have been a major political question hanging over this house committee for some time. will they be asking the justice department to look at prosecuting certain crimes the committee believes they found during their investigation. this is a political question and not a legal question because the justice department does not need congress to tell it what to investigate. we know that prosecutors are already watching these hearings closely and there are already multiple criminal investigations into the rallies, into fake electors and into the riot itself. we do have this weekend congresswoman liz cheney raising the possibility that the committee could formally ask the justice department to investigate donald trump, especiall

>> we're joined now by the other republican on the committee, congressman adam kinzinger. congressman kinzinger, let's start with what liz cheney said there. are you seeing any evidence that what you've uncovered in these hearings is having an impact on your republican colleagues in the house or on republican voters generally? >> well, on the house i don't know. because i've been, you know, every day i ceased to be amaze of how much they're willing to accept and not say anything. in terms of republicans in general, you have a bulk of republican voters -- this doesn't appear to be having a ton of impact, maybe people are shifting more to potential -- what i'm hearing a lot of anecdotal stuff around the edges of people who have been hard core with trump who can't stand him. it's enough to make a bit of a difference within maybe a gop primary, but i think on the bigger term it's denying anywhere near 50% of the american voters willing to basically go along with something like the coup on january 6th. i think though long erm, jonathan, in five years i still believe it's going t

. >> republican congressman adam kinzinger joins me exclusively. >>> gas prices and soaring inflation dampen americans holiday. can president biden turn america's mood around? >>> hello, i'm dana bash in washington where the state of our union is ready for some fireworks of the nonpolitical variety. happy fourth of july weekend. as friends gather to celebrate america's birthday at parades and cookouts on this holiday break, the food they're eating and drives they're taking are more expensive than last year. there are signs that americans of different political stripes are growing more divided after a series of supreme court reversals on environmental regulations, guns and abortion. add to the mix, the ongoing fight over former president trump's big election lie as americans learn shocking new details about how far trump was willing to go to stay in power. the former president has told associates he is eager to launch his 2024 campaign as early as this month. for his part, president biden is focused on the midterm elections this fall. he met virtually with democratic governors friday o

you don't have someone yet like an adam kinzinger, right, someone who painted a very strong contrast between him and donald trump. so they're all sort of versions of trump, and i think that means that all of them will be kept in a cluster for some time. >> congresswoman love, respond to this, so marc short, former pence aide, made a whole lot of news on cnn last night when he talked to our colleague erin burnett and notable is what he said in response to congressman matt gaetz saying mike pence will never be president, that pence wasn't a leader. here is what pence's former aide marc short thinks of that. >> i don't know if mike pence will run for president in 2024, but i don't think matt gaetz will have an impact on that. i would be surprised if he was still voting. it is more likely he'll be in prison for child sex trafficking by 2024, and i'm actually surprised that florida law enforcement still allows him to speak to teenage conferences like that. i'm not too worried about what matt gaetz thinks. >> i mean, that's quite a statement. but it is from a republican who worked at a ver

. >> joining us to discuss, republican congressman adam kinzinger of illinois. we're learning the justice department's investigation into what happened on january 6th in the months before it as well, they're now looking at conduct related to donald trump and his closest allies. what's your reaction? >> well, i think it's essential. i think the january 6th committee, though we're not out to pursue criminal charges, we're simply out to make recommendations, tell the truth to the american people. i think what we have shown is that at least there's enough evidence that's worthy of the investigation. the department of justice will make the decision of what threshold that reaches. but i gotta tell you, jake, there thing i'm concerned about, yes, i think there is some serious concerns about stability, if a former president is indicted, but where my bigger concern is on stability is what happens to a country that says a former president can attempt a coup and as long as he's unsuccessful, we let bygones be bygones. of course, if that president is successful, then he con

we're joined by congressman adam kinzinger. thank you for coming back to "this week" this morning. we just heard congresswoman lofgren there. anything more you can say about that? it's been reported that the committee didn't ask mr. cipollone to corroborate the specific of cassidy hutchinson's testimony? >> it was an eight-hour interview. we went through a lot of stuff. as zoe said, he didn't contradict anybody. we're getting their information, their front, their position, i think it's very clear you'll see over the next couple of hearings a little of what he said, certainly you'll see a lot of that in the report, but at no point no contradiction of what anybody said. the rest i'll have to leave to the presentation from the committee. >> trump adviser steve bannon has been indicted for refusing to testify before the committee. but reports that trump is now considering waving any claims of executive privilege to bannon. does the committee still want to hear from him? >> i'll say overall, steve bannon is involved in the law, he's fighting with the justice department, i'll just say on

what about adam kinzinger? the [inaudible] emails from the [inaudible] about those two because they are a very small minority! >> whataboutism muscle has gotten over used in recent years. but look, people like pete wehner, people like liz cheney, people like adam kinzinger, honorable, genuinely conservative, genuinely christian people who are not conservative populist, -- nationalism and donald trump and the whole knew nothing impulse that goes with that, where you've got to deny what you see, those folks are on the outside right now. but i do think -- look, the key part about any cult, any extremist group is, they have to hunt for heretic's. they call out the people who have the courage to break with the pack. because those people represent the greatest threat to their group cohesion. and that's the dynamic we are seeing right now. >> peter, i have new your new york times op-ed that you wrote. it is about elise stefanik and it shows clearly where the gop wants to be. some of -- someone who worked with george w

only adam kinzinger and this cheney approaching from the other side. i don't hold any grudges.i still want to do my job like i did on january 6th . in order for me to do my job i don't need to express my opinion. if they want any more confirmation they can take a look at my injuries. proof that i can do my job and protect them without any political opinion. >> are you saying that only adam kinzinger and liz cheney among republicans have spoken to you, have checked in on you to see how you are doing, and maybe even apologize for what happened that day? >> that is correct, sir. >> officer dunn, what has been your opinion? have you heard from other republicans checking on you, seeing how you are doing, perhaps even apologizing for what happened that day? >> one thing i want to say about the sergeant, he is a great american-individual. he emigrated here and had to work to be an american, whereas some people just take it for granted. the oath that he took means a lot more to him than it does to the average individual. he is very passionate. he is a hero, and he's a very fine patriot

listen and look at what adam kinzinger shared on his twitter feed earlier today. >> to the best of mys always in the dining room. >> what did he say, mr. meadows and the president, at all, during that brief encounter that you were in the dining room? >> i think everyone was watching the tv. >> it's my understanding that he was watching television. >> when you were in the dining room in these discussions, was the violence at the capitol, physically, on the screen, on the television? >> yes, right. >> reporter: so if he was watching television, that means that he wasn't consulting with members of the pentagon or the department of defense to rye to find a way to get additional security support up to the capitol. it also means that he wasn't talking to his fellow lawmakers on capitol hill, to try to help them through what was a very important crisis at the time. it also means, and perhaps most importantly, that he wasn't working on a way to get a message to his supporters to leave the capitol at that period of time. so that's all what the committee hopes to show here tonight. they keep us

adam kinzinger said he was gleefully watching.ctions leading up to january 6th and on january 6th and we're starting to get a picture afterwards, including january 7th, during those outtakes, when that film was filmed, he was not sorry, he was not remorseful. he wanted to continue spreading these lies and that is consistent with wow he's acted ever since. >> wanted to continue to call the people who stormed the capitol patriots. patriots. not rioters, not criminals. patriots. >> right. this was a show that donald trump produced, right? it unfolded in the way that he wanted to it happen, from that tweet he sent after that white house meeting, saying, come to the capitol, it will be wild, to his property testations when hen front of that crowd that they were going to march to the capitol. of course he was sitting there and watching it, because those folks were called to the capitol by him and doing what he want thed them to do. the only thing that went wrong is it actually didn't work. they weren't able zwrto overthr the government.

congressman adam kinzinger today saying why he thinks such an investigation is important.get in te position as a country, when you see a fail democracies where every last administration has prosecuted. there is a massive difference between i'm gonna prosecute the last administration for political vengeance and not prosecuting administration that literally attempted a failed coup. that is a precedent i am way more concerned about, if there is evidence that this happened from a judicial perspective, if there is an ability to move for on prosecuting, and you don't, you have basically set the floor for future behavior of any president. i don't think that democracy can survive that. >> is that how merrick garland would see it? he has emphasized that known as above the law. he did that this week. how much will or should the attorney general consider potential charges against trump invite his political? should that even matter? or is no one being above the law exactly that, even a president? >> so, when the justice department filed charges, the principles of federal prosecution a

adam kinzinger is not running for reelection. but it is, those winds are blowing here in a way that is very, very important to these individual members, who are putting that aside in order to do this work. >> one of the things, and i like that you said that, one of the things that has been in all this, is how non political this has been. this has not been you know, there is no way that they could capture the way that impeachment was. and i think a lot of the republicans did catch the second impeachment as warrant as it was, as a part of an attack on donald trump. you can't do that with this. this has been done in the most sober i mean, republicans are taking the lead. witnesses, not just wobbling, but loyalist to donald trump, people who said they were proud. miss matthews was proud to serve donald trump. they were proud -- >> working for's reelection. >> exactly, a republican. these are people or his people. so if his people got to the point where she finally at the end said, i did not -- i knew was a spokesperson i was gonna ha

i think adam kinzinger is more of a moderate republican than liz cheney, but certainly. and liz cheney did not position herself as a trim critic for most of trump's term -- as a trump critic for most of trump's term. she didn't turn sharply against him until the aftermath of january 6. still, the perception that she's sort of a political outsider to wyoming has been reinforced by her signing with the democrats on this issue and being on essentially a democratic committee as one of two republicans on an issue that is sort of a hatfield and mccoy family feud. it doesn't position her very well for the election. it is a small state. she's had experience turning people out so you cannot discount the possibility she will win but the polls do not look good and republicans vastly out number democrats. even if you could get democrats to vote in the primary for liz cheney, it is hard to see how that would work. the numbers just don't favorite. and she's pulling in the high 20's, low 30's. her opponent is winning the majority in most of these polls. it doesn't look good for her. ho

as adam kinzinger said, this charade, which really does corrode the heart of our system . this will continue all the way to the midterms because as kinzinger was dumb enough to say the quiet part out loud, he admitted this is a political exercise once this investigation is not winding down, we may be towards the end of this tranche of hearings. we may have more hearings in the future and the investigation is still ongoing . so we're we're getting to the bottom of what we need to kknow. yeah, okay, we're getting to a the bottom. actually , you're preventingu ei legitimate obvious questions from being asked and just in point of fact, no matter how long these hearings go on, they can go on forever. and adam kinzinger will still be sad, tormented, tiny man with a miserable personal life. so, you know, that's some comfort. but the prosecutors here working for kinzinger and cheney and the rest of this committee, just like the school boardsro, the teachers unions last year worked in tandem with the justice department to punish the enemies of the democratic party. what is that?t we

adam kinzinger talked about hutchinson and the risk she took. there's a security risk that the committee was concerned about. >> that's right. they have highlighted that fact to point to her credibility. some allies started to question the motives and had a reason to appear but the committee said she had no other reason but to tell the committee under oath and adam kinzinger said it's inspiring other witnesses to come forward. >> yes. again, i don't want to get into who and the details. she is inspiring for a lot of people. this happens every day. we get new people that say hey i didn't think this piece of a story was important but now that -- i see this plays in here. >> i think really what's important about that is the investigation is continuing. seen six public hearings. they get more evidence and information every day. so we'll see what the end result but this investigation is ongoing. >> we reported on depositions taking place on the day of hearings. we heard from the vice chair cheney. >> the committee will or will not make a criminal ref

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seeds in real time of what we have seen now. >> the person that connected the two points was adam kinzingert night. his final statement. liz cheney's as well. the most powerful part of the final statement was effectively, and i am paraphrasing here, you can write laws all that you want. they are very tenuous if there is a person, a powerful person that is not willing to follow, at least the spirit of them never mind the letter of them. that is the stress test you talked about. the person continuing to put the stress on that we saw in real time with the video and obviously up until january 6 and today is donald trump. >> donald trump. and theeveryone that continued support him, not from the deep state or democrats or people looking for a witch hunt but by people that worked for donald trump until the end. we are on verdict watch now in the steve bannon trial. cnn live at the coururthouse ne. when you're tired of looking at your tired old bath, we fit your style, with hundreds of design options. bath fitter. it just fits. visit bathfitter.com tbook your free consultation. [ "back to life" by

i just the point of fact how long these hearings go on they could go on forever and adam kinzinger willd tormented tiny man with a measurable personal life that some comfort. the prosecutors here working for them and cheney and the rest of this committee just like the school boards and teachers from last year they worked in tandem with the justice department to punish the enemies of the democratic party. what is that? the single greatest threat to the history of united states as true. steve bannon is the former white house chief strategist is also the host of the war room and as we just told you he's just been convicted of two crimes thank you for being with us. you can kind of help but notice that you were convicted of a crime which is not actually a crime most the time in washington or ever. within the same 24-hour period guy who tried to murder a candidate in new york was released with no bail would be to make of these two events occurring the same day? >> as you can tell the democrats are completely lawless and look how they run this committee. this no ranking member, the snow minor

i think adam kinzinger is more of a moderate republican than liz cheney, but certainly.nd liz cheney did not position herself as a trim critic for most of trump's term -- as a trump critic for most of trump's term. she didn't turn sharply against him until the aftermath of january 6. still, the perception that she's sort of a political outsider to wyoming has been reinforced by her signing with the democrats on this issue and being on essentially a democratic committee as one of two republicans on an issue that is sort of a hatfield and mccoy family feud. it doesn't position her very well for the election. it is a small state. she's had experience turning people out so you cannot discount the possibility she will win but the polls do not look good and republicans vastly out number democrats. even if you could get democrats to vote in the primary for liz cheney, it is hard to see how that would work. the numbers just don't favorite. and she's pulling in the high 20's, low 30's. her opponent is winning the majority in most of these polls. it doesn't look good for her. host

last hour we spoke with a member of the committee, congressman adam kinzinger who seemed open to that idea. >> i can't do the doj's job. as a nonlawyer, there is all kinds of threshold questions. but my belief is this. we never want to get to a position in a country where we prosecute last administrations because that is what failed republicans, failed democracies do. but if a failed coup and an obvious coup attempt and a president that didn't just choose not to act, but willfully watched to see where the mob would go for three hours on january 6, if he is not held accountable through law, i actually fear that that is a far worse president -- far worse precedent, to make the determination, if they can and should indictment. if we just wash this under the rug and say for the sake of the country, let's put this aside, there is going to be somebody else, whether it is donald trump in 2024, or somebody else somewhere down the line that recognized that as the floor of their behavior and pushed even more and we can't survive that. >> that was congressman kinzinger last hour on "morning joe.