adam kinzinger said that he'd be doing part of his term by now.ne any of this, how long his term would have been. so, i think that this is an abdication of presidential responsibility because president trump took an oath of office to protect and defend. and we've gone from protect and defend to hide and lie. and that, to me, is the most shocking thing about these revelations. he's not only aware that he has information, which he shouldn't have access to, but he's directing his staff to hide the information and lie for him. and so i think it undercuts certainly admiration for the united states. john bolton, the former national security adviser, conservative, said that trump has done enormous damage to our country. and i believe that to be the case. >> when you read the transcript of the former president saying to a room full of just people who were there to hear from him and suck up to him, none of whom had security clearances, saying, you know, this is highly confidential, it's secret. this is secret information. look. look at this, and showing th

turning out to former republican congressman adam kinzinger, adam, you investigated trump when you areary 6 committee, a very different investigation but still, as you read through the indictment, that anything surprise you?>> yes, the whole thing was surprising, i guess we kind of knew leading up that it was going to be bad but this the how obvious it was that the president, the former president, didn't just have classified documents and failed to return them, he and his folks, his co- conspirator here, knew what they were doing, they were trying to avoid even their lawyers finding out what it was. i guess it didn't really surprise me, nothing with donald trump surprises me but what is been more disappointing today is seeing that there is not this -- there should be outrage for my former colleagues in the republican party about what donald trump did and i'm not seeing it right now.>> every time something like this happens, he's been indicted twice but every time he faces investigation or something like that, you hear this talk about how it's only going to boost him with republicans, a

i want to get your reaction to your former boss adam kinzinger who tweeted some advice to trump. e and in shame. kinzinger has been an outspoken republican critic of trump and served on the january 6th committee. the likelihood of trump heeding his advice seems slim. but has more legal minds mount against trump. do you agree that your former boss has a point? >> we cannot as a party afford another 2020 trump. quite frankly he has spent most of the time complaining. and we are seeing that now that it is all about him. d for the republican voters they have such an opportunity to really be thoughtful and how we approach the primary with the candidates that have all jumped in. so i would hope that they will take that seriously. this responsibility and opportunity to elect somebody else to run in 2024. >> earlier today, mora, trump made his first public appearance since being indicted. this comes as most republicans are rallying around him. including his presidential challengers. take a listen. >> i am deeply troubled to see this indictment before me. leaving it only further divide our

adam kinzinger back with us, obviously, a key part of those hearings and that investigation.r to axios, margaret talev. thank you very much for being here. i've been wanting to talk to you about all this all morning. because i admire ludig throughout all of this willingness to speak out, speak against the party that is so critical and so core to him, because of what he has seen. the fact that he wrote this in "the times," in this moment, what did you make of it? >> it's huge. judge ludi g is -- i've gotten o know him since the hearings. he's a very honorable man, he's very pained by what the party has become. this is a party, we grew up thinking it was committed to the rule of law, it's all about america. and it's turned into this american-first nationalism. the rule of law so far as it can be used to our advantage. so i thought it was a scathing, in a very good way, editorial. and it's putting into focus the fact that as republicans, and particularly as current members of congress or any office that takes an oath to the constitution of the united states, i mean, if you in th

and i think adam kinzinger showed himself to be an american hero.ably has more military expertise than i do, certainly does. but on the other hand, let's just say putin is weakened. i don't think if putin leaves there's any guarantee that we're going to see a blossoming democracy there. you know, if putin is gone, we're going to see probably someone from the security services, the hard right nationalist take his place. those that weren't angry with the invasion. they were furious it was bungled and furious at this point in time how russia looks to the rest of the world. but we have the realization that a desperate putin is a dangerous one and if putin is gone, the person who takes his place is very likely going to be worse. and that would result in danger not just in ukraine and russia, but in the rest of the world and the places that my friend, mr. kinzinger points out. >> congressman, thank you for coming in. congressman mike quickly. >>> we are standing by for major rulings at the supreme court. just a few minutes from now. big cases that we've b

want to bring in elie honig and adam kinzinger.t there's another piece of what the special counsel is working on related to january 6th. several different elements that people have been trying to pin down. what's your read of things based on who is testifying? >> nobody has access to the president's movements like secret service. so they could have really valuable information, important to know, there is precedent for this back in ken starr's investigation after white water, he wanted to talk to bill clinton's secret service agents. it was resisted in court and there was a ruling that came out saying, no, this is fair game. there is no secret service slash presidential privilege here. >> one thing we don't know that nbc points out is the proximity of these about six or so secret service agents to the president on that day. but the big question is, cassidy hutchinson famously testified before your committee, the january 6th committee, that she heard secondhand that trump wanted secret service agents to drive him to the capitol. she

back with us, adam kinzinger. >> donald trump is the who's whiny, victim, but the strongest person that'sything and all he does is talk, he takes every crisis around the world, where we need to show unity, and he talks down the united states. he thinks because he's only in it for himself, that's it. all he cares about is himself. i see that and i'm like this is a moment when we can have healthy debates about russia and ukraine. but we shouldn't be having the former president take advantage of these moments to divide us. be careful what you wish for, our country is far worse. we don't kill people either, we're so innocent about putin. >> he said that in that interview. >> that's why i was shaking my head. it's just been -- i'm just tired of it. >> can i ask you, specifically, given your service in the armed forces about what will hurd said, it distinguished him from the other republican canada dots who spoke on the weekend but he really on abc yesterday went after the biden administration saying you totally missed an opportunity here, secretary blinken should not go around saying it's an i

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commentator, former republican illinois congressman and january six select committee member, adam kinzingercongressman, i am wondering what your reaction is to this revelation of a florida grand jury is? >> yeah, it is all the possibilities. i am as confused as anyone. i think it is quite possible that maybe the d. c. grand jury is focused on things more related to january six or whatever the d. c. connection is to the documents case. and they are resting, it seems like. they have not met recently in florida, maybe, again because according to the sixth amendment, you have to give somebody an opportunity to in their own area, particularly if the crime was only committed there. the one thing to i am hoping that it is not, in essence, a restart. it does not seem like that but, yeah, i think it is as confusing to me as anybody else. >> you are also on the january six committee, i am wondering what your thoughts were on mark meadows. we know that he has reportedly testified to a federal grand jury. we don't know when or exactly what he said -- or what it may have been. >> well, look, anderson, t

we will talk to a legal analyst, plus former member of the january 6th committee adam kinzinger. also tonight, tensions remain high after this weekend short-lived insurrection in russia, vladimir putin finally breaking his, silence calling those behind have traders, but not mentioning anyone by name. his one-time alight yevgeny prigozhin defended his, actions saying, he was not trying to threaten putin. we will have a live report from moscow, conversation with expert at the new yorker. tourists that turn into scientists. tourist taking photos that are analyzed by ai. so researchers can help life underwater flourish. ♪ this is how tosin lost 33 pounds on noom weight. i'm tosin. noom gave her a psychological approach to weight loss. noom has taught me how you think about food has such a... huge impact on your relationship with it. visit noom.com and start your trial today. the minute you drive off the lot. or more. that's why farmers new car replacement pays to replace it with a new one of the same make and model. get a whole lot of something with farmers policy perks. ♪ farmers mn

. >> i'm joined by cnn contributor adam kinzinger, former republican congressman of illinois, and memberthe january 6th committee. congressman, last time we spoke was right before desantis announced his candidacy. you said he's not really the best campaigner. do you think his recent back and forth with the former president is working for him? too soon to tell? >> i don't -- look, i think it's important that he goes at the former president to an extent. he's still kind of keeping his powder dry. i mean, he doesn't mention trump by name. he speaks kind of in generic terms, says candidates need to look forward, not backwards. he doesn't talk about donald trump. and, i mean, there's still somehow this belief that some magical pony is going to come into this race and sweep ron desantis in by default. the truth is, you have to go after donald trump, and you can't out-trump trump. and that's what i think ron desantis is trying to do. so i think all you've got to do, frankly, anderson, is take a peek at twitter and watch the desantis and trump camps right now. they're absolutely destroying each

bring some cokes in, please. >> we're joined by cnn political commentator adam kinzinger, former republicanerved on the january 6th committee, and carrie cordero, former counsel to the attorney general for national security. congressman, 2016 then-candidate donald trump ran on the protection of classified information saying, quote, in my administration, i'm going to enforce all laws concerning the classified information. no one will be above the law. you hear this and it's just a joke. >> it's a total joke. hypocrisy through donald trump's whole administration was an everyday occurrence. this is a huge example of that. and, i mean, the whole thing about protected classified information in 2016, we'll just state the obvious, had nothing to do with classified information. it was a way to go after hillary clinton. that's what led to the whole "lock her up" chants and all that kind of stuff. he has no regard for the protection of classified information when he can sit in front of a group of people and impress them with the papers he has. what i thought was interesting is i think he was trying t

us is former illinois republican congressman and former january 6th select committee member, adam kinzinger. congressman, i'm wondering what your reaction to this is of a florida grand jury. >> yeah, i mean, it's all the possibilities. i'm as confused as anyone. i think it's quite possible that maybe the d.c. grand jury is focusing on things maybe more related to january 6th or whatever the d.c. connection is to the documents case and they're resting, it seems like. they haven't met recently and florida may be again because you -- according to the sixth amendment you have to give someone an opportunity in their own area. if it was only committed down there, but the one thing i'm hope something that it's not in essence a restart. it doesn't seem like that. but, yeah, i think it's confusing to me as it is to anybody else. >> you were on the january 6th committee. what your thoughts are on mark meadows. we know he's reportedly already testified to a grand jury. we don't know when or what he said or which line of inquiry, whether it is classified documents or january 6th or what it may have bee

cnn's political commentator adam kinzinger. and former republican congressman and also a lieutenant colonel in the air national guard. also joining us, cnn contributor, a global fellow at the woodrow center. cnn national security analyst, steve hall, and former cia chief and retired army major general , james spider marks, all joining us tonight for this remarkable scene playing out on the ground in the streets of moscow. steve, can you kind of this in perspective for us, how significant is it that the founder of wagner, and his private mercenary group that russia had been using in ukraine, to capture mood, obviously using these convicts on the ground in ukraine. and he's now essentially declaring war on the russian ministry of defense. >> you know, i think that something has happened up to this point, we could have said that this is one of these well- known putin tactics where he turned people against each other inside of his own government. this is clearly in my view at least, in a different league. when you have somebody lik

and i do want to salute liz cheney and adam kinzinger along with the other members of the january 6thing reached the two-thirds bench mark, and therefore, donald trump beating the constitutional spread, the only way he was going to be held accountable was for the evidence to get to prosecutors at different levels of our government. >> it seems that the federal investigation, and go there is so much more that we don't know about it than we do. but in terms of what has become public just this week that mark meadows has testified before a grand jury in both of those probes. that's the current understanding based on his accounts. that represents one person, who, although he turn over thousands of text messages which adam kinzinger called one of the blueprints and he describes him as a star witness. you didn't get to talk to him or interview him under oath. how significant is it to you? how much would you have liked to have known everything mark meadows knew in your investigation of january 6th? >> well, our position, of course, was that everybody owed congress his or her truthful testimon

. >> congressman adam kinzinger of illinois, the only republican on the january 6th committee other than cheney, says all the threats are part of trump's plan. >> i don't think you can look at the words and actions of donald trump and think that he wanted anything except the explosion of these threats to people. he could stop that in a second if he wanted to, but he liked it. there are a lot of members of congress that i think voted against impeachment because they were scared for their family and for themselves. what does that mean? it means threats of violence worked. >>> up next -- >> they suggested that he use the apparatus of government to seize voting machines. or push through the pain and symptoms? with ubrelvy, there's another option. one dose works fast to eliminate migraine pain. treat it anytime, anywhere without worrying where you are or if it's too late. do not take with strong cyp3a4 inhibitors. allergic reactions to ubrelvy can happen. most common side effects were nausea and sleepiness. migraine pain relief starts with u. ask about ubrelvy. learn how abbvie could help you

. >> congressman adam kinzinger of illinois, the only republican on the january 6th committee other thanheney says all the threats are part of trump's plan. >> i don't think you can look at the words and actions of donald trump and think that he wanted anything except the explosion of these threats to people. he could stop that in a second if he wanted to. he likes it. there are a lot of members for congress that i think voted against impeachment because they were scared for their family and for themselves. what does that mean? it means threats of violence worked. >> up next. >> they suggested that he use the apparatus of government to seize voting machines. ♪you said close your eyes don't look down♪ ♪fall into me and i'll catch you darling♪ ♪we'll dance in the street♪ ♪ we're talking about cashbackin. not a game. not a game! we're talking about cashbackin. we're talking about cashbackin. we're not talking about practice? we're talking about cashbackin. we're talking about cashbackin. we're talking about cashbackin. not a game! we've been talking about practice for too long. -word. -no p

it's from the trove of texts from mark meadows' phone that adam kinzinger described. the taped up discussions of cassidy hutchinson. let me go through it with you, tim. but let me start with what to me sounded like knowledge of violence. knowledge of specificity of weapons that the insurrectionists were carrying. and as far as what was outward facing, not a real sense of action, not a real plan that was ever revealed to the congressional investigation. this is cassidy hutchinson on that. >> what was mark's reaction, mr. meadows' reaction, to this list of weapon that people had? >> when tony and i went in to talk to mark that morning, mark was sitting on his couch and on his phone which is something typical. it was like what you know, informed him like this is how many people outside with mags right now. this is how many weapons possible. he listed more weapons out there, i just don't recall. and gave him a brief but concise explanation, but also fairly thorough. and i remember distinctly mark not looking up from his phone. i remember tony finishing his explanation. an

congressman zoe lofgren of california, former republican congressman adam kinzinger of illinois, thankmuch. >>> speaker mccarthy has a strong opinion about trump's indictment. we're going to compare his comments today about what he said about the fbi's investigation into classified material in a different public figure. that's ahead. so you only pay for what you need. that's my boy. ♪ stay off the freeways! only p pay for what you need. ♪ liberty. liberty. liberty. liberty. ♪ ♪ open talenti and raise the jar to gelato made from scratch. raise the jar to flavors from the world's finest ingredients. and now, from jars tbars. new talenti gelato and sorbetto mini bars. as someone living with type 2 diabetes, i want to keep it real and talk about some risks. with type 2 diabetes you have up to 4 times greater risk of stroke, heart attack, or death. even at your a1c goal, you're still at risk ...which if ignored could bring you here... ...may put you in one of those... ...or even worse. too much? that's the point. get real about your risks and do something about it. talk to your health care

let's bring in our experts, elie honig, adam kinzinger and margaret hoover.nice to have you at the table. >> you take your kids to a jungle gym on the weekend when it's raining. >> yes. that's all i do. >> they're constantly screaming and laughing and having fun. that was these guys for the ten minutes before we got on air trying to do television. >> we bring the fun. >> bring that energy to this. >> i said, isn't it loud in here? we're so glad you're here. thank you, thank you, thank you. let me begin legally, elie. it's one thing to hear it, but for your case you were a federal prosecutor, does this help you so much you can hear it? >> back when i was a prosecutor, smart defense lawyers on the first day of the arrest, the first thing they would say, is this a tapes case, do you have tapes? if you did, how bad is it. if i was asked that here, yes and really, really bad. i mean, we just saw donald trump's statement. he says this is exonerating. i mean, i tried to read this and listen to it with a skeptical ear. how would i approach this as a defense lawyer. i

me maura gillespie, as well as former adviser to speaker john boehner and former congressman adam kinzingerf that? >> reporter: well, i think more than anything, chris, it shows that the house republican conference in particular is still pretty solidly behind the former president donald trump, we see them play that out in realtime on a daily basis with the investigations that they have going on into the current president joe biden, and their investigations into the investigations of donald trump as a demonstration as how they're attempting to provide him cover, but these are significant endorsements in one of, if not the most important swing state for the former president. most of the names are not that big of a surprise. these are members of congress who have been solidly behind donald trump since he began his political career. scott perry, the chair of the freedom caucus. the one thing that stood out to me, guy, the republican star in the conference. another member of republican house leadership has picked a candidate in the 2024 race is significant. i also think the other important part

. >> let's get perspective from our cnn political commentator, adam kinzinger, who of course was a memberthe house january 6th committee. our with us, former special adviser to president obama, van jones. i want to start with you, congressman. i assume you're having flashbacks. i know back in your district, you would encounter some people who were so loyal to trump, it just didn't matter. if you told them this was not a coffee mug -- this is a coffee mug, they would say, no it isn't. how do you break through to those people? >> you know, it's -- to be honest with you, for me it's a little heartbreaking to see what's happened to my party and what's happened to the party that -- you know, back in the day, it was all about truth and law and order and justice. and to see the brains being broken, frankly, by donald trump, yes, but also by a lack of leadership by those in power. i mean, you talk about -- i'll support him no matter what. leadership is all about leading. the word leader is in the word leadership, and it's about telling people, you know, what the truth is, trying to persuade peopl

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not because they are saying well, liz cheney, adam kinzinger and jeff flake are saying that, sitting in a denise together. >> maybe. maybe they're in laser place and denny's. >> i happen to love denny's. but listen i agree with you wholeheartedly to that's unfortunately the reality this massive fear of what would my life look like if i wasn't in office? >> i actually don't think that's correct here because if they all jumped, this is been the contradiction of the republican party since day one of the trump era of politics. if they all jumped together they would win. they would defeat donald trump. they would defeat this rather evil thread in all politics today, but their inability to not only show that moral courage but also any semblance of coordination is what will potentially, lead more likely than not to yet another donald trump nomination. that's what makes this next presidential election all that much more important. >> powerful thoughts. i disagree with max rose on teams pearls and he shoots in view of denny's but other than that, powerful. stuff we come back after 15 months o

let's bring in former congressman adam kinzinger. lieutenant colonel in the air national guard.an, thanks for being here. what's your reaction to what's unfolding in russia tonight? >> it's not entirely surprising, only because, you know, as we've seen in russia in the past, it always ends with coup attempts. there's always this internal strife in russia. i certainly didn't, i don't think anybody predicted what we'd be seeing tonight, certainly you saw prigozhin in the leadup being very outspoken against the ministry of defense. there was kind of the expectation that maybe some of this was a game or just power politics. but this has certainly gone to the next level. so this is actually really good for ukraine in the long run. frankly, for the world. because regardless of what ends up happening with this, the wagner group is probably going to be out of action around the world. >> i guess i'm heartened to hear that. chaos in russia doesn't always sound great for the world. so chaos in russia where the military, whatever move is happening is precarious, you're confident that would

congressman adam kinzinger earlier today was saying that maybe people are laying low, seeing if somebody comes up with a line that everybody can kind of glom on to use to defend the former president. what do you think they are going to -- what do you think their response is going to be? >> well, look, i think -- i give them credit. they're looking at the facts. they're keeping their powder dry. because they're realizing, this is actually quite serious stuff. it's easy to say, oh, there's a double standard. and maybe there is. but, again, the burden of proof on the department of justice is to show that there isn't. that is a paramount issue here. otherwise they're going to get killed in the court of public opinion. they're looking at the facts, looking at the reality of what the indictment is. and it's obviously very severe. based on the conversations that were said, this isn't hearsay. these are the presidents words. not to let the documents out. and as governor christie brought up on your show a little bit ago, he had every chance to bring them back. he had every chance to return them.

different people, a lot of my colleagues, and that is not to take anything away from liz cheney or adam kinzingero showed extra conviction and extra courage in what they did. everybody who stands up for democracy should be embraced for doing that. i think we have to use the word fascism because it is obviously a loose -- it is obviously loose all over the world today with all of its ideological, you know, viruses, racism and anti-semitism and misogyny. and all of these things are out there. that gives us all the opportunity to go and fight for the things we believe in every single day. i tell the young people, they are growing up in a much tougher time than i grew up, much tougher. but they also have the opportunity to prove their love for the things they believe in. jenna: just recently, we started getting some convictions, sentencing. big news surrounding the january 6 insurrection of course. can you talk little bit about, especially in your role having served as impeachment manager, what these convictions mean for the conversation and where it goes from here and why they are so important? rep.

congressman adam kinzinger earlier today was saying that maybe people are laying low, seeing if somebody comes up with a line that everybody can kind of glom on to use to defendant the former president. what do you think they are going to -- what do you think their response is going to be? >> well, look, i think -- i give them credit. they're looking at the facts. they're keeping their powder dry. because they're realizing, this is actually quite serious stuff. it's easy to say, oh, there's a double standard. and maybe there is. but, again, the burden of proof on the department of justice is to show that there isn't. that is a paramount issue here. otherwise they're going to get ki killed in the court of public opinion. they're looking at the facts, looking at the reality of what the indictment is. and it's obviously very clear. based on the conversations that were said, this isn't hearsay. these are the presidents words. and as governor christie brought up on your show a little bit ago, he had every chance to bring them back. he had every chance to return them. he chose not. this is pur

adam. congressman kinzinger. and only bianna, thank you very much, guys. >> thanks all of you for joining us. >> can we do it again tomorrow? >> yeah, i'll come back. >> thanks, pal. you have to allow me come back. cnn news central starts right after this break. have a good day. ♪ it takes two to make it outta sight ♪ ♪ one, twtwo, get loose now ♪ ♪ it takes two to make a... ♪ stay two nigights and get a $ 50 best weststern gift car. book now at bestwestern.com. the all-new tempur-pedic breeze makes sleep feel cool. so, no more sweating all night... ...or blasting the air conditioning. because the tempur-breeze feels up to 10° cooler, all night long. for a limited time, save $500 on all-new tempur-breeze mattresses. - [narrator] we just shipped our millionth monthly coffee subscription box. we're sending custom thank-you gifts to everyone on our team who helped us get there. i had to call eric at custom ink. custom ink has been with us from the beginning, and he makes sure that we get everything we need, and even

adam kinzinger, now a retired house republican on this show described mark meadows as their star witnessmark meadows. what he's shared was of vital importance. do you have any sense that there was one investigation that took priority over the other based on the other reporting in "the times" about who's been in most recently? because the story today also has a great deal of reporting on his role in the final days including the packing of trump's personal items. >> no, i -- as we say in the story, you know, it was unclear which investigation he was, you know, testifying to or both. obviously he's important to both of them, but you raise an important point, which until today when we were working on this reporting, i had almost forgotten, which was the importance of the meadows text messaging. the meadows text messages really served as a -- the word game changer may be too much, but an important moment to the committee where it was able to gain a larger understanding of what was going on around trump in the lead-up to and during january 6th. and that served as an important blueprint for i t