we were expecting aetna to pay us their portion. >> but after the approved surgery, aetna only paid about. the shirleys fought with aetna nine months and then turned to us. they got a check for $26,335. aetna told us, we apologize to the shirley family for improperly processing their claim and any in convenience this may have caused. the error affected our error. you can't always plan out major medical procedures. but when you can, like a scheduled surgery, we suggest you contact your insurance company first. get preapproval in writing. then check back with your doctor and hospital to make sure everyone is on the same page. ideally, in writing. if that doesn't work out, let us know. maybe we can help. nbcbayarea.com/responds or 1-888-996-tips. >>> thanks, chris. the warriors continue their winning ways. >> that will do it. the warriors do it again. >>> here's a question for you this morning. what are you really sleeping on? brand-new for you. the big name retailers accused of overcharging you. >>> and a soggy start in some spots. where the roads might be wet as you head out this morning.

. >> we did obtain a preapproval letter from aetna prior to the surgery. so we were expecting aetna to pay us their portion. >> after the approved surgery, they only paid $3,600 of the $30,000 surgery. they fought with them for nine months, and then they turned to us. they got a check for 26, $335. they said we apologize for improperly processing their claim and any in convenience. our error affected our member. and it is our responsibility to make things right, which they did. the shirleys were thrilled. you can't always plan out major medical procedures. but when you can, like a scheduled surgery, we suggest you contact your insurance company first. get preapproval in writing. then check back with your doctor and hospital to make sure everyone is on the same page. ideally in writing. if that doesn't work out, let us know. maybe we can help. 1-888-996-tips. or nbcbayarea.com/responds. >>> one northwest burger chain may have lost some mojo. >> here is the comment sparking the controversy. >> i love burgerville. >> i think i like it better. >> what are you

that's what we did at aetna. liz: you talk about leadership.ards of two companies that have had leadership crises. johnson & johnson with the talc powder, the asbestos issue, and boeing 737 max jet. both did not handle these crises well. what would you say they have to do from this day forward? >> well, i think these are complicated issues. they are legal issues, they are regulatory issues, and as a board member, i never really comment on anything that happens in the boardroom or boards i'm actively involved in. one thing i would say is we basically follow the science. whatever the science dictates, that's really where organizations go that i'm involved with. liz: ron, the book is "learning to lead" and just reading some of these chapters, you will learn so much, everybody. i hope you get to check it out. ron williams. great to see you. >> thank you. liz: thank you very much. we'll be right back. the dow is down about 69 points. introducing the first-of-its-kind lexus ux and ux f sport. also available in hybrid all-wheel-drive. lease the 2019 u

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last year, the ceo of aetna, a mr.ertillini, got a $500 million bonus for engineering a merger between aetna and cvs. >> [crowd boos] sen. sanders: 34 million americans have no health care. even more are underinsured, with high deductibles and high copayments. and this system allows one man to make $500 million for a merger. well, we have a little different vision, just a little bit. as to what a humane and rational health care system should look like. we believe that health care is a human right, not a privilege. [cheers and applause] we believe that the function of a health care system is to provide quality health care to all people, and not to make billions for the insurance companies and outrageous compensation packages for ceo's. [cheers and applause] and that is why, despite the hundreds of millions of dollars that the insurance companies and the drug companies will spend against us, i suspect they are going to make me a very famous guy on 30-second tv ads, but despite all of their lying, all of their ads, yes, w

last year the ceo of aetna, a mr. bertilini, got a $500 million bonus for engineering a merger between aetna and cvs. 34 million americans have no health care. even more are underinsured with high deductables and high copayments. and in system allows one man to make $500 million for a merger. well, we have a little different vision, just a little bit. as to what a humane and rational health care system should look like. we believe that health care is a human right, not a privilege. [ cheers and applause ] we believe that the function of a health care system is the to provide quality health care to all people and not to make billions for the insurance companies and outrageous compensation packages for ceos. and that is why, despite the hundreds of millions of dollars that the insurance company and the drug companies will spend against us, i suspect they are going to make me a very famous guy on 30-second tv ads. but despite all their lying and all of in re ads, yes, we will pass a medicare for all single payer program.

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you've got a lot of neighbors there, jerry smith of aetna. ron williams lives there this is a private community. >> tell me more about delray beach. obviously palm beach, they're a hot market what about delray beach. >> south florida is great for people who want to avoid income taxes. miami has gotten very crowded. palm beach is an older community and very expensive delray is much younger and hipper for companies moving to west palm beach for their companies and then they want to move their families and live in del ray. it's really a strong market for executives and their families. nice quiet part of southern florida. >> excellent thank you so much, robert. >> thank you. >> that's the show for today. i em sue herera. thanks for joining us. becky will be back next week sheel have a story of an entire town who picked up and moved why they did it and who paid keep it right here we're "on the money. have a great week, and we'll se you next weekend >>> hello and happy expiration friday ads they get ready, here's what's coming up on the big show. >

who better to join us to talk about that than the former aetna ceo.lly in retired form. every time i see you it is always the high charging executive. mark, do you think these pushes by the trump administration, whether it's wholesale drug pricing or how much insurers pay in terms of the rates they negotiate, does that really change anything for the patients? >> well, i think the more informed consumers can be about what the cost of healthcare is and the value they are getting is always a better thing. so i think as we move through these changes we're going through as an industry, i think this is just one step of many that need to occur in order to make the program work better. >> you have seen it from the insurance side and drugmaker's side as well. when employer healthcare plan deductibles are over 200% since 2008, is this something that the administration can do about it? or is this something that maybe the insurance companies should be handling? >> well, it calls for a fundamental redesign of the system. right now we confuse the investment decisio

. >> meg tirrell joining us now is ron williams, the former chairman and ceo of aetna. his new book is called "learning to lead: the journey to leading your yourself, leading others and leading an organization. ron, great to see you. thank you for being here. >> thank you it's a pleasure to be here. >> let's talk first about what we were talking about with meg, this idea of drug prices getting out of control we've talked about this in the past what do you think works as someone who's been in the middle of this trying to solve it. >> i think we clearly need more transparency for patients so they understand the cost i think the proposal to have the pharmacy companies advertise the list price is a step in the right direction. i think, though, it has the potential to be confusing. what we really need is transparency for the patient who has insurance so they can go online, they can actually access their health plan, their benefits, and understand easily and quickly what they would pay for that medication. that's true transparency that's meaningful to the patient. >> you trie

and, later, former aetna ceo ron williams joins us to talk changes he thinks the health care industryg quk x" yoreatin"sawbo on cnbc >> time to the executive edge, pr pro susan across a consumer travel, real estate, special events and also a 2019 recipient of the new york women in communications matrix award. i think micca, was she the presenter? bloomberg does this. you have done this for 30 years. right? and i think you've got, what, an 86% client retention rate. in new york you are, like, the queen of pr, i would say is that overstating it >> i'll take it. thank you very much. is it better to brand someone before crisis, or is your hardest thing to do is to manage something after it's already happened or you do it all you do it across the board >> i think we do it across the board. i think the best thing to do is to understand that the minute you are getting into business and running a company, you are on you are it there's no you start when you start. it begins at the beginning i think you create your brand the minute you go out and you start doing what you are doing, and you have

last year, the ceo of aetna, a a $500tillini, got million bonus for engineering a cvs.r between aetnaicans have no health care. underinsured, with high deductibles and high copayments. manthis system allows one to make $500 million for a merger. little different vision. just a little bit. and rationalhumane health care system should look like. we believe that health care is a human right, not a privilege! [cheers & applause] we believe that the function of a health care system is to provide quality health care to all people, and not to make billions for the insurance companies and outrageous compensation packages for ceo's. [cheers & applause] sen. sanders: and that is why, despite the hundreds of millions of dollars the insurance companies and the drug companies will spend against us, i suspect they are going to make me a very ads,s guy on 30-second tv but despite all of their lying, yes, we willads, pass a medicare for all single-pair program. [cheers & applause] -- single-payer program. [cheers & applause] [chanting "bernie"] the time is long overdue for the united states to end th

we reached out to aetna and they got a check for $26,000.ogize to the family for improperly processing the claim and any inconvenience. it is our responsibility to make things right. they we thrilled. you kucan't always plan the surgeries. get the preapproval in writing then check with the doctor or hospital to make sure they're on the same page and again get that in writing. if all that doesn't work, let us know. >> that's a huge chunk of change. >> you want to know what they're going to charge. >> down to the penny. you would never leave a shop without an estimate. do the same with a doctor. >> thank you. >> a soda that fizzled out more than 30 years is making a come bok. they're reviving the new coke recipe. the their season the stranger things that took place the year the drink came out. new coke was a failure in 1985. many people complained that they stopped making it. partnership, a new number of coke cans will hit shelves on thursday. >> when does it come out? >> thursday. >> okay. sharing too much information. you know what i'm talki

aetna insurance. it is all on harley. but we have good major supporters, and they help us out. bless everyone here, and like artie says, let's give them all hell anyway, and i cannot wait to get in trump's office. [laughs] [applause] >> good afternoon. my name is jason knoll, and i am the director of sales for harley-davidson motor company in the midwest. it is my pleasure and honor to be with you here today, alongside my colleagues from harley-davidson motor company, members of the rolling thunder organization, and the many men, women, and families who have given the ultimate sacrifice, losing a loved one, for serving in the u.s. military so that we can have freedom. we would also like to honor today the gold star mothers. these are incredibly strong who put a lot of time into their communities and this nation. we thank you for your efforts, dedication, and commitment not just today but all year long. thank you, ladies. [applause] jason: today, we are deeply honored and humbled to ride with you on this special and important event. harley davidson's roots date back and run as d

higher than they said in february, and first order results beat expectations due to drug pricing and aetnathe first full period since they close at $70 billion, at a deal. it seems some of the synergies are on track and make it higher and of the synergy target -- higher-ends of the synergy target. david: so they have the pharmacy benefit managers, which have been the subject of a lot of investigation in congress and a lot of hostility. are they vulnerable on that score? the absolutely are, as they change rebates and all of that around the conversation, and cvs is the biggest player. that will be a headwind that they still face. analyst investors hoping to get more color into that. they have investor day coming up next month, so they will hopefully provide more color on rest ofy expect in the 2019 and 2020 as well, but they are certainly exposed. david: but as of today, so far, so good area kaylee: for now -- so good? kaylee: for now, they are ok. david: up next, we talk with douglas holt he can about what the central bank should do and president trump's views will make any difference. is s

this e prescribing thing can help if it covering all of the plans with the same blue shield or aetna or kaiser. the provider getting it on the screen. don't use this, use this. the next step is for the member. i will give you an anecdote. my father was dying of cancer and my mother was being discharged from the hospital for a prescription for an antacid not covered by the formula. there wa was one on the formall. i said talk to the doctor. i was her son the internist telling her there was an equivalent drug. that is what the doctor provided. my mother was a college professor. that is what the doctor prescribed, that is what i am going to play for. the complexity at every level is not just the members. it is the pharmacy who is trying to do the right thing and there are pharmacists doing the right thing and the providers. we can't minimize the impact on anyone. >> i noticed that you ascribed no affirmative behavior to the pbm in this process. i thank you for that. >> any public comment on this item? come forward. >> my name is erica. i am a current employee. i am covered under blue sh

they are vertically integrated with aetna. you want drugs, health insurance.s with caremark is trading less than 10 times earnings. 3% yielder, sure rebounder. cheryl: managing with privacy, always concern about the health care industry. is there anything you can see out there can derail numbers we're seeing? strong year for stocks. >> there is no room for complacency. at this point i think the low interest rate environment is the great catalyst in the great tailwind behind this market if you want to be bullish here. why? at the end of the day people saving for retirement. endowments are trying to make distributions. what are the alternatives? back at 2.55 on 10-year treasury. you can't get the job done. people are hoping for some signs of a rate cut by mr. powell, at least they heard no signs of any rate increases. cheryl: you're right. he could be a catalyst. people calling for cuts as you mentioned. david dietze, always great to have you here. so good to see you. been too long. >> thank you, cheryl. [closing bell rings] cheryl: call it a trifecta for the be

if you look at the cvs/aetna merger, united health group has been more about data and optum and ai, becauselth care is the only entity in our entire economy where the middleman has been up 600%. liz: i know. >> just those statistics you gave about pharma and insurers, at a time where president obama was trying to decrease the cost of health care, how are you going to decrease the cost of health care if you are bringing back 600% returns to your shareholders? liz: give us your three top solutions to this issue and hopefully some of it involves really holding on to the quality of health care. >> so the first thing i think we have to do is we have to invest in technology and deep learning machine cognition. you think about it, we don't talk about telebanking. we don't get up in the morning and say i'm going to telebank. it's just 90% of banking went from the bank to the home. the same kind of thing will happen to health care if we let it. we stopped that from happening. telehealth, for example, every state has its own criteria. that has to change. that's number one. number two, we have to let

overseas, the deadline has come and gone for israeli prime ministers and aetna to form a new governmentst on what comes next. >> is really prime minister netanyahu is forcing his country into new elections. he was given 42 days to form a coalition government following elections in april. after weeks of gaining smaller parties support, he was still one vote short of getting majority in her was really parliament. turning to his former defense administer who controls five seats to put them over the threshold. he made clear of his demands, passing a bill that would call orthodox to serve in the army and give them credibility and the government. with no negotiations between all three, the country faced a coalition building standstill. >> there is an alternative motive. there are no back channels. we once the bill to pass. i think that's what separates us from forming a government or going to an early election. >> benjamin netanyahu facing three indictments on corruption and bribery charges hope to cut a deal with lawmakers that would create a law to overcome the israeli supreme court in orde

it's benefiting from the buyouts of its insurer aetna shares up about 6% right now over to sue herera for an update. >> hi, kelly hello, everyone. here's what's happening at this hour officials have identified all six victims, including two who died from their injuries at the shooting at the university of north carolina-charlotte all were students. the suspect andrew terrell is in custody and charged with murder. >>> president trump is asking congress for an additional $4.5 billion in emergency funding for board security the request said the funding will not be used to build more of a wall but to handle the, quote, humanitarian crisis marriott is facing backlash over an event honoring brazil's new president at its times square hotel. he has a history of making inflammatory comments about days, women and indigenous groups, leaving several partners, including delta, to pull out of the event. marriott said it stands behind its decision >>> on a lighter note, happy birthday to the empire state building the iconic 102-story skyscraper was dedicated 88 years ago today by then new york gover

aetna insurance? we have very good major , supporters and they help us out a lot. bless everybody here and like artie says, i can't wait to get into trump's office. [laughter] [applause] >> good afternoon. i am the director of sales for harley davidson motor company in the midwest. it's my pleasure and honor to be with you today alongside my colleagues from harley davidson motor company, members of the rolling thunder organization and the many men, women, and families who have given the ultimate sacrifice. losing a loved one serving in the military so we can have freedom. i would also like to honor the gold star mothers. these are an incredibly strong group of women who put a lot of time into their communities and this nation. we thank you for your efforts, dedication, and commitment, not just today, but all year long. thank you, ladies. [applause] >> today, we are deeply honored and humbled to ride with you on the special and important event. harley davidson's roots go back to 1916 with our support to the u.s. military. and since that time, we have never wavered i

you worked it out with aetna but you haven't worked it out with the state or medicaid. you'll have a situation where you're curing kids in the private market and you're not able to do it in the public market. that's the tolerable situation. i don't think that feature is tenable for any period of time. if you're going to come to the market with a cure, you've got to be tibl provide equal access regardless of ability to pay. that's where it becomes important for these things you could do. could you tend to other states? could you structure it like a service where you alter it in other dates. i think people need to think through these challenges of how they make sure medicaid challe lengsz. my biggest challenge is before i came into the government when i would have a really hard medicaid problem, and i worked with someone who was really good at medicaid. her name was seema verma. i no longer have access to her so i need a new guru on these issues. >> what you're talking about medicare and putting drugs on the market, there is an indication that medicare isn't good at payin

the guy who's head of aetna created a merger with cvs, got $500 million in bonuses. i don't think that's where we shlld spend healthcare rs. >> woodruff: but your plan would call with some form of higher taxes. >> of course. if i'm going to do away with your premiums, co-pays, deductibles and expanding benefits, it has to bed air. but when you eliminate those things, the average american will be better off. >> woouff: let's talk about the cost of college. one of your signature proposals, tuition-free colleges -- >> public colleges and universities. not al y. >> woodruf would impose a financial transaction tax to pay for it. but how much -- what this mean for the, what, 4anmillion amerwho have college debt right now? fiw would they benefit? >> oh, they'd bevery substantially. >> woodruff: because they've left college and -- >> no, this 900 billion we're talking about -- look, here's the story -- right now, wall street profits are very, very high, they're chyorginu 17% interest rates on your credit card. we're in usery. we bail them out after their nearly illegal activ

. >>> and a judge has ordered hearings next month on a $69 billion acquisition of insurer aetna by cvst was completed, but the judge in the case, richard leon, has been at odds with the justice department's antitrust division he says the same judge who approved the at&t/time warner deal -- he's the same judge who approved that deal -- he had criticized the cvs approval, saying remedies mandated by the government were merely cosmetic. so, lots of people focused on that deal still. >>> a few stocks to watch this morning coca-cola upgraded to overweight from equal weight at morgan stanley with a $55 price target the analyst says the dow component has a stronger growth outlook than its peers, setting pricing power and volume growth among other factors. >>> and walmart will spend $800 million to expand its next-day delivery service to more u.s. homes, free next-day shipping for about 200,000 products will now be offered in phoenix, las vegas, and southern california, with walmart planning further expansion later this year. joe. >>> all right, china striking back against the u.s. on trade an

it has been in this purgatory for about three months they got a good yield and aetna is doing bettert the front of the store is doing okay people still hate it because they worry about medicare for all. if you ta i canke a longer term, i don't think it is going to happen because nancy pelosi does not want it. >> he's still saying it can't happen it is really -- >> he's the man of ccvs. >> they took tobacco out by the way. >> there is some great analysts. i want to warn people again. there are a lot of hedge funds that got in here don't panic, it will subside the worse is over for cvs. it sells at nine times earnings. 8.5 times earnings >> that's where apple sold it. >> how did you guess when i told tim cook >> you got desk star and you told tim cook. >> he was in the call with me. it is time, guys, it is a subscription revenue story >> we got a lot more stocks to watch. we have the opening bell about 5.5 minutes away ayitus ♪ (vo) i know what you're thinking. electric, it's not for you. and, you're probably right. electric just doesn't have enough range. it will never survive the win

they beat on earnings-per-share --e up dollar $.62 $1.62.s-per-share, this is in the wake of the aetna merger, so everyone watching this closely. alix: coming up, more on apple's upbeat forecast following a bruised holiday period. what it means for those faang stocks, next. this is bloomberg. ♪ ♪ alix: shares of apple rising in premarket, up by almost 6%, topping analyst estimates even after a disappointing holiday period. joining us is shannon cross. shannon has a buy rating on apple with a $235 price target. how did you read the market response? is it that things are less bad than we thought, or is this a huge by backstory? shannon: things are better than anticipated, and during the call, tim pointed to improving business in china during the march quarter, so linearity in the quarter improved toward the end, which leads people to feel better about the trajectory. plus, revenue guidance was above expectations. alix: still, revenue expectations for particularly iphones were maybe not great. did you get a read if the iphone sales slump is temporary versus where we will find solid ground

aetna let up the sky with bursts of sweltering hot lava.but the last major eruption was back in 1992. >>> all right. we've got the news all squared away. let's do the morning boost. a boy in oregon got the birthday present of a life time. but it took him awhile to figure out what it was. >> open it upnd see if there's a message on the board. >> so on the letter board the name of his favorite band. are youeady for this? it's iron maiden. yes. iron. maiden this didn't happen in 1982. this is from a couple of days ago. the board also said sepmber 6th. his dad is taking him to see his favorite band coming up this fall in portland. the dad gives the little boy a big hug. he burst into tears he's so happy to see his favorite band. pretty cool dude. >> really a huge iron maiden fan. >> i love it. >>> coming up, tom brokaw talks with steven spooel buielberg an hanks about d-day and theiril iconic f about it "sing private >>> plus ellen's mother responds exclusively. that's after these messages. eve, so we know how to cover almost anything.ng even r

cvs bought aetna for $59 billion in november and the company today saying savings were tracking at theion to $350 million range. humana announcing a double beat on earnings and revenue on higher sales and lower than expected payouts for government health plans. earnings coming in at $448 a share on revenues of $16.1 billion. the company raising 2019 guidance. even so, shares are down after the company guided analysts lower for 2020 earnings. the reason? the trump administration's proposal to eliminate drug rebates to pharmacy benefits managers. i should say, cantor fitzgerald cutting its price target to $283. neil: thank you very much. we are finding out a little more about the white house request now, emergency request for $4.5 billion to beef up the southern border. doesn't ascertain exactly what the money would be used for. some democrats positing it's just a way for the administration to get more money for its wall. let's get the read from former louisiana governor bobby jindal. what do you make of this request? >> first off, thank you for having me back. look, i think it's a reaso

you know him from aetna, health care and government -- governance leadership.williams joins us today. there is that tip point where things get better. you are striving on the south side of chicago. what was the tip point to advance in the business and education world? ron: for me, a starting point was recognizing i had to refrain who i was and what i -- reframe who i was and what i could do. you have to reject the stereotypes people have of limitations of your potential. , i will be 15% better . you cannot do that into perpetuity, but for me, that was a starting point. tom: providing leadership and saying we have x number of staff that are underpaid, on benefited. we will give them a jump. why don't we see more of that in america? above theget them minimum wage debate? ron: it is all about leadership, and i have to commend my successor. tom: you set the foundation. ron: i always like to give proper attribute. to recognize they have stakeholders and not just shareholders, and employees are one of the most important constituencies. when you invest in employees, t

s to the insurance company aetna that they also own, and they're not the only one. what about a expressscript. expressscripts recently bought cigna. you've got cigna is the insurance company. expressscripts is the p.b.m. and oh, by the way, expressscripts has their own mail order pharmacy and in terms of volume, they're the third large nest america. again, we have a situation there. same thing goes with united. united health care. owns on tum. and they have their own -- owns optum. they have their own mail ord farmcism you have the top three p.b.m.'s controlling the health care market, they have their own insurance companies and their own pharmacies. ohio discovered that caremark, the third party -- the p.b.m., was paying their pharmacy, c.v.s., 46% more than they were paying competing pharmacies. that's an example of where they were taking money out of one pocket an putting it in another pocket. what about new york state? their state medicaid reported that p.b.m.'s were pocketing 32% markup on generic drugs. 32% markup on generic drugs. the drugs patients tradition

their staffers can buy into aetna, blue cross-blue shield, united.hat pete buttigieg is going to come under now that he's playing with the big boys and girls. he's going to have the way he operates with the same level of skrut anyway ni as folks like joe biden and elizabeth warren who have been in the game for a long time. >> i'm making no executions for mayor pete. he is raising money. mib maybe th maybe this is part of scaling up. >> i think it's part of scaling up. i think the best thing mayor pete can do is say we thought the stipend was going to cover it but as i thought it out, we're going to go and pay for health insurance. i think that's the way to handle it. we obviously thought this was okay to do the $400 a month but now that i've thought about it and realize all the other candidates are doing it this way, let's do it this way. >> this is a campaign that came out of nowhere to become this top-tier candidate. and his candidacy and his staff, liz smith, who is helping run that, have received a lot of praise. they've run a near flawless campa