troops from afghanistan. on september 11, 2001 terrorist engaged in a jihad, struck our homeland, killing almost 3000 innocent people. by taking the fight to enemies and standing with our partners abroad who need our help, we have prevented another event on a mass scale over the years since. but there are still many organizations that operate in afghanistan and pakistan region. nevertheless, president biden is implementing a phased withdrawal of all u.s. troops from afghanistan, one that explicitly ignores conditions on the ground. how have we gotten to this point? what is the current situation on the ground? what should we expect going forward? good terry panetta and general mcmaster both advisors and will discuss these and other questions with my colleague, bradley bowman. secretary panetta served as secretary panetta served as secretary of defense and director of the cia in the obama administration. his public service began in the u.s. army and and 16 years in congress. he is now chairman of the panetta in

-afghanistan. what afghanistan's fear is a return of the large-scale violence of the civil war from 1992 to 1996. each of these groups wanted to be in a position of relative advantage, relative to one another to their potential competition. so they tried to affect the state capture, capture of state institution and functions and brad, when you and i were there together and i had the mission of standing up the counter corruption task force transparency, these groups were driven by a political motive and they were driven to hollow out the institutions we were trying to build because it was the weakness of those institutions with freedom of action and impunity in the ability to build up those power bases. so we never really integrated. what we try to do politically is what we are doing momentarily and then we integrate in self-delusion. and we defined the enemy as we relink them to be. we defined them as completely separate from al qaeda. you know how we know that, because of the great work fdd does.

troops from afghanistan.n september 11, 2001, terrorists regarded themselves engaged in a jihad struck our homeland killing almost 3000 innocent people. i taking the fight were enemies where they plot and send with our partners abroad who need our help we have presented another attack on that scale over the years since. but roughly 25 terrorist organizations currently operate in afghanistan-pakistan region. nevertheless, president biden is supplementing a timeline-based withdrawal of all u.s. troops from afghanistan come one that explicitly ignores conditions on the ground. how have we gotten to this point? what is the current situation on the ground, and whatde should we expect going forward? secretary panetta and general mcmaster both advisors on military and political power will discuss these and other questions with my colleague bradleyhe bowman. secretary panetta served asra secretary of defense and director of the central intelligence agency in the obama administration. his public service began in the u

army staff officer in afghanistan. our journal has consistently provided the best open-source analysis available regarding the real situation on the ground in afghanistan. we are a nonpartisan research institute exclusively focused on national security and foreign policy. we accept no funds from foreign governments. for more information on our work, visit our website, fdd.org. thank you for joining us for this important, timely conversation. brad, over to you. >> it is my pleasure to be here talking with secretary leon panetta and general mcmaster. thank you for making time with me to talk about these issues. the topic today is relevant as we speak. u.s. forces in afghanistan are undertaking withdrawal. we have the 20th anniversary of the horrible terror attack on our country this september. this month, -- last month, president biden announced he wanted all troops out of the country by that september 11 anniversary. with the permission of our two guests, i hope we can talk about the past, the present, the future. by th

al qaeda was in afghanistan. taliban was in afghanistan.hey used to kill every single person for no reason. that's why i joined with the u.s. army, to bring peace and prosperity for my country. that's why i joined with the troops. in the beginning of 2004, i start with the army, just graduated from high school. i went to college for a month and i decided, no, let's see the troops. they had left their families and their country and were here to help my country. that's why i started working with the trooms. david: that's a powerful story. i'm going to ask colonel miska to put that in perspective for us. you worked extensively with interpreters who served in iraq . you think that we as general petraeus said have a moral obligation now, as this war is ending, to do everything we can to get these interpreters who risked their lives to safety? colonel miska: thank you, david. absolutely. the smile that comes to my face when i see people like fraidoon who served alongside of our soldiers in afghanistan safe here in the united states and not moving

troops pull out from afghanistan and the president meeting with afghanistan leaders yesterday. what are your biggest concerns? guest: that -- president biden made the right decision to end our military mission in afghanistan. we accomplished what we needed to long ago by punishing the taliban and killing osama bin laden. everything we have tried to do beyond that, trying to turn afghanistan into the illiberal democracy, has been unnecessary and resulted in unnecessary losses of life and expenditure of resources that could have been used elsewhere. i am very supportive of what president biden has done. my main concern right now is withdrawal will be spoiled by other actors. the people will try to slow down the withdrawal, members of the afghan government or here at home. but i am focused on is ensuring that president biden completes withdrawal, which has tremendous support from the american people . a poll done by our organization and others has shown that over two thirds of the american people, including a majority of her pup gives, support getting out of afghanistan. host: whe

and afghanistan?liver: the afghan president finds himself in a desperate situation, as we have seen in the report. the afghan government losing power, taliban gaining ground, and there are reports of the u.s. telogen -- u.s. intelligence community suggesting the government of afghanistan could collapse six months after the government of the u.s. pulls out its remaining 3500 troops. this is the underlying situation the afghan president finds himself in. there will be a call for help, and the u.s. will be willing to offer some kind of help, $3.3 billion u.s. in security assistance are on the table for weapons for afghanistan. but the message is clear -- the u.s. is out and afghanistan will have to stand on its own feet. phil: that is the plan, the situation on the ground deteriorates, the u.s. takes its troop and sends money and says, by some weapons and security. that is the plan? oliver: some troops are going to stay. not all the troops are leaving afghanistan. 600 50 troops, to secure the u.s. embass

being held in afghanistan?hite house press secretary about the case we reported on. a man held for over a year by the taliban. jen psaki said the president's message is she will continue -- he will continue to release any americans held overseas. an official i spoke to said mark's name has been mentioned by the leading u.s. negotiator to the taliban in recent discussions, but the family, who i spoke with today, a source close themselves remain concerned. that as u.s. sources continue to leave, they will lose leverage. judy: all right, thank you. we turn now to a man at the center of negotiations for afghanistan, both with the u.s. and the taliban. dr. abdullah abdullah is chairman of the high council for national reconciliation. thank you for joining us. did you here today from president biden -- you have just come from the white house -- what you wanted to hear? >> absolutely. we are grateful the president of the united states told us, to the president of afghanistan, that the troops are withdrawing and that d

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the institutions in the afghanistan national security and defense forces, and the people of afghanistanby their own forces. >> woodruff: and just quickly, of the u.s. pledge to help thousands of afghan citizens who helped u.s. troops during the war get out of the country, is that something you welcome? >> that's something which is in the policy of the united states. i'm not aware of the details. the solution is not to get out but to stand down. but if there are situations that we cannot address or we cannot protect, some individuals, and there is an opportunity for them, i think that's okay. >> woodruff: dr. abdullah abdullah, we thank you very much for speaking with us today. >> you are welcome. >> woodruff: more than a year after george floyd's murder set off national protests and a racial reckoning, the former police officer found guilty in his death, derek chauvin, was sentenced by a minnesota judge today to 22.5 years in prison. in a moment, william brangham looks at the sentence, and the continuing reverberations of this case. but first, special correspondent fred de sam lazaro re

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forces in afghanistan and iraq.omised a shot at applying but those visas have been plagued with endless delays and bureaucracy, reducing to a trickle the lucky ones who make it through. right now there are 18,000 applications backlogged, not including family members. now, with president biden's decision to withdraw all american forces from the country completely, those applicants risk being left behind. the taliban is on the doorstep of kabul, and they have anyone who helped or worked with the u.s. well within their sights. the withdrawal of u.s. forces from afghanistan ihappening so rapidly the situation for the afghans left behind, still waiting for visas, is becoming a life and death emergency. the campaign here in washington, d.c., to get them out of there before the taliban come after them is intensifying. a bipartisan group of lawmakers has been pushing for years to get more s.i.v.s issued and faster. senator jeanne shaheen is a senior member of the senate foreign relation committee. she worked closely with th

so i do not want to see that happen again in afghanistan. vietnam has been hanging over the war in afghanistan for years. few parallels are as stark as the impossible task of getting out without abandoning local partners to an advancing enemy. in 1975, although many were left behind, over 100,000 vietnamese who had worked with the u.s. were evacuated to the american island of guam in the western pacific. once there, and safe, they were housed in camps until their visas were processed and they could settle in the u.s. that's exactly what a number of lawmakers are now pushing for, saying the plan to process the afghan visas at the embassy in kabul will never be fast enough, and the interpreters and their families need to be immediately evacuated to a safe place for processing, even suggesting guam as the place to do it. on june 4, a bipartisan group of congressmen and women wrote a letter to the white house, stating, "the current siv process will not work. it is clear that the process will not be rectified in time to help the over 18,000 appli

is that still possible in afghanistan? jen: a political path forward is certainly one that we continue to support. we have a negotiator who is monitoring and closely engaged in that process. that is certain lyon going and will be a part of the agenda. reporter: afghanistan, the president said yesterday this would be a topic in the meeting today. can you provide clarity on what neutral location these applicants will be moved toward? and then also, will that withdrawal include those who have already fled afghanistan because of the fear of retaliation to places like jordan or egypt? jen: let me give you information on where we are. unfortunately i'm not going to answer every single question. some we won't be able to outline because of security reasons. we have identified a group of s.i.v. applicants, special immigrant visa applicants, who have served as interpreters and translators, as well as other at-risk categories who have assisted us. they'll be relocated to a location outside of afghanistan before we complete our milita

invaded afghanistan.elegram or orderly now hold twice as much of afghanistan as it did two months ago. on tuesday, the taliban captured afghanistan's main border crossing. "the wall street journal" reporting u.s. intelligence community has concluded that government of afghanistan could collapse within six months of the u.s. withdrawal. the associated press is reporting the u.s. is planning to keep 650 troops in afghanistan after the september 11 deadline to provide diplomatic security and to assist turkish troops to protect the couple airport. the was is also looking for nearby military airports which could be used carry out future aerial bombings and her operations. meanwhile thursday, the white house confirmed of plans to evacuate 18,000 translators and others who work for u.s. forces. to talk more about the crisis in afghanistan, we're joined by afghan american professor zaher wahab, born in afghanistan recently taught at the american university of afghanistan in kabul. can you talk about the meeting t

both of them are created by the united states in afghanistan in 2001 and the attack on saddam hussein in 2003 after which of course those wars evolved into an international war. i do want to say that if war like behavior has declined in other words you aren't quite ready for that there are still interventions and countries are doing things which are warlike but they are doing wars and entering into wars with each other. their economic sanctions which can have it to look serious effect but overall a large number of border conflicts maybe 50 to 70 in which one country ties tries to seize territory from another but they have only had areas which were unpopulated or i'm curious in. afterwards in other words they are trying to keep them from becoming wars. there was one between india and china a year ago. they shoot bows across bows and they engaged in espionage and stealing secrets. that's been going on forever and it continues. there has been use of cyber to spread misinformation and hardly a new phenomenon. and there have been covid regime changes. those deftly continue but i don't thin

i think she went to afghanistan a little bit. moving around, moving around and that's when she won the big award. i must sated tight up with the mother stuff, when the "new york times" asked me to it go to iraq my kids are teenagers. that's the worst time to leave them so i did not go for it is not anxious to go anyhow i did not look forward to be embedded at my age. i cannot imagine leaving my teenage kids. no, no, no paid >> that sounds like the onset, deb do you have any final questions or any wrap-up you want to do? >> i just want to say i think what elizabeth's book shows us is what we do is reason enough. you highlighted these three extraordinary women. but it took all of these years for you to do it. i think all of us have been female or correspondence would like to think we made our mark out there. but you know, it's just another war and some more correspondence will come after us. this is just been terrific to have this conversation with all of you. we are a special breed because we did these things. but, so what? really

finally out of afghanistan after all of these years. typically called the longest war in american history. it makes it sound like we had been in constant conflict, which we have not been. there have been deployments overseas. at various times it has been more challenging than deployment to germany or japan or south korea, but recently it has been pretty benign. we have not been doing the fighting. they have. i think the war on terror does not end simply because we give up. [laughter] >> i think we wish it would but it is not the case. obviously the concern i know john mccain shared is the reason we have kept al qaeda and other groups that they is because we have helped put pressure on them . so that is the danger of the taliban coming back. >> i think this administration has decided the war on terror is overhyped and not as big a threat as something. so they will and it -- end it and focus attention on big power competition, which is important. russia, china. but i we are setting the predicate for afghanistan looking like it used to and

and there is a very difficult situation in afghanistan but to continue an open—ended mission in afghanistan and casualty and even a need for increased nato presence. so after a broad consultation between all allies with three ministerial meetings, many meetings with ambassadors, we made a decision together, not an easy decision but there are no easy options in afghanistan. you are leaving your post in roughly one year from now. so after a broad consultation between all allies with three ministerial meetings, many meetings with ambassadors, we made a decision together, not an easy decision but there are no easy options in afghanistan. you are leaving your post in roughly one year from now. you have big ambitions for the strategic vision of nato, mentioning everything from taking on china to cyberspace and even space as a new frontier for nato and yet nato is still not financing itself in terms of commitments from its member states. most member states are still not meeting the threshold that nato requires for defence spending. ambition is one thing, reality is another, isn't it? 0ur allies ar

up next is reporters with a look at the problem of drug addiction in afghanistan. i'm area everything from me and the entire team. thanks for the company. the news. the news ah, in many countries education is still a privilege. property is one of the main causes some young children work in my jobs . instead of going to class can attend classes only and finish working millions of children all over the world can't go to school. the we ask why? because education makes the world more just the make up your own mind. w. made for mines the ah. o 9, that diary has been fighting to help drug addicts in afghanistan, capital cover for 10 years without government or international funding. she's alone warrior a strong and independent woman who knows how to hold her own in a conservative society. but now that international troops are departing, after having helped maintain political order for 20 years. laila her diary fears for her freedom. i'm most concerned about the future of africa and women and children. she's on the back generation of the fantasy. has lived in a democracy

you couldn't sustain your mission in afghanistan.tlantic alliance, has to deal with global threats and challenges. and that's two very different things. yes, but that's my point. you saw a specific threat in afghanistan, tied to the taliban, tied to the fear of it being a hotbed of international terror. you have been there off the back of the us intervention for the best part of two decades. and now you're leaving because the americans are leaving. but nobody in the world believes that the threat from both the taliban and possibly from international terror groups as well, has gone away. in fact, it may well get very much worse once you've gone. 0n afghanistan, it's correct that we have decided to end our military mission after two decades. and i have been very open, and we have all been very clear—eyed about the risks that decision entails. at the same time, the intention was never to be there forever. we have, over the last years, gradually reduced our presence from more than 100,000 in the combat operation to now ending the mission

she says they have not fulfilled their mission in afghanistan. >> in afghanistan, people are also disappointedith nato and its allies because their goals have not been achieved. rule of law. women's liberation. bringing security to the country. reporter: she hears people in afghanistan begging the world not to abandoned their country now, even if troops withdraw. >> please don't leave us alone. international come unity cannot leave afghanistan alone under any circumstances. especially germany should help, by being a diplomat of mediator. because our countries are linked by such a long friendship. reporter: afghans have lived in hamburg for 80 years now. the ports have always attracted traders. even as far away as afghanistan. taliban terrorism keeps driving people out of the country. she looks after refugees and helps them after they arrive. the women here do not see good prospects for their homeland. >> there's always war in afghanistan. they need help. our country and our compatriots have a dark future ahead of them. >> almost 80% of the district administration is under taliban control. peop

00;00] ah was, ah, this is the w news coming to life from berlin. germany's last soldiers leave afghanistan after almost 20 years. berlin ends its mission and the war torn country, where there are fears of what will happen once all international troops leave. also coming up sweet revenge decades in the making england be told rivals germany kicking them out of the european football championship. plus a year after trying to impose the new security law to rain in pro democracy protests. many activists are now in jail, are afraid to speak out. independent media outlets have been plus a deadly heat wave in gulf western canada, claiming dozens of lives. people struggle to stay cool as the mercury hits of record smashing 49 degrees celsius. ah, ah. hello i'm terry martin. thanks for being with us. the last german soldiers station to that ghana stan, have left the country marking another milestone in the international troops withdrawn. german soldiers have been on the ground in afghanistan since 2011. most recently, they were engaged in a nato led mission aimed at training and advising afghan secur

troops pull out from afghanistan and the president meeting with afghanistan leaders yesterday.hat are your biggest concerns? guest: that -- president biden made the right decision to end our military mission in afghanistan. we accomplished what we needed to long ago by punishing the taliban and killing osama bin laden. everything we have tried to do beyond that, trying to turn afghanistan into the illiberal democracy, has been unnecessary and resulted in unnecessary losses of life and expenditure of resources that could have been used elsewhere. i am very supportive of what president biden has done. my main concern right now is withdrawal will be spoiled by other actors. the people will try to slow down the withdrawal, members of the afghan government or here at home. but i am focused on is ensuring that president biden completes withdrawal, which has tremendous support from the american people . a poll done by our organization and others has shown that over two thirds of the american people, including a majority of her pup gives, support getting out of afghanistan. host: when

the last german soldiers stationed in afghanistan have arrived home. their return is the latest step in the face international withdraw from the water nation. this has been german, this most expensive and deadliest military mission since world war 2. more than 150000 german soldiers have served and i've gone over 20 years. operation cost the lives of 59 trees, many afghans and i worried about the return of the taliban group and what will happen next in their home. and we think it should state, as far as mazda vander patterson, heads, d, w, that research and investigation team she's reported from afghanistan and knows the country well. welcome. as address this, troop withdrawal came early, been expected. what prompted the decision? frankly, for joe biden, the youth president announcing the unconditional withdrawal of all nato troops on april 14th. and then everything went so fast. i mean, us troops have nearly all pulled out and they put a lot of pressure on all other nato forces, including germany, which had to accelerate their own withdrawal process.

for instance, there is a lot stronger civil society in afghanistan. the rights of women has become a lot more established. and there were 20 years ago. there has been a lot of court with africans on the ground. there is some sort of special connection between germany and i've gone this time. so in those kinds of less concrete ways, there has been some success, but the basic goal of the mission of stabilizing, i've got to stand that certainly has not been achieved. defense minister, unable it come, carbon bower. she's announced additional support, poor local stuff, enough dentistry, who helped german troops were talking about interpreters in the like. what exactly did you say? well these people feel that they are under threat of from the taliban wants to taliban take back control of afghanistan, that they might be persecuted. they have been out of this already and the german authorities have now and on that these people we are talking about probably several 100 and will be allowed to come to germany if that is what they want. so they will be given a sa

be the default unless there's 0 threat from afghanistan. the right question is, what's the correct policy to minimize risk? we can't keep us troops everywhere where there might be a potential threat the united states some day. and it's not necessarily the most effective strategy. robert, really good to talk. you're going to have to leave it there. that was robert nyman, independent consultant on us foreign policy. thanks. coming on. good speak with you by giving jobs to his nearest and dearest to get donald trump into a lot of hot water during his presidency. however, it does seem that the biden administration may not be a lot better despite claims to the contrary by the why tax party boy k takes a look. an impetus. that's true. why i liked nepotism. i wasn't a fan of the guy, but at least donald trump was on the knows about it. seriously, remember all of these new stories? the president was turning to his family to fill out his presidential staff administration, announcing talking, trump will have a new role as a presidential adviser, the

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afghanistan is not germany. it's not japan. afghanistan is not south korea.u arrive there, you realize out of the capitol city that its biblical times with ak-47s and cell phones, this is not a nation building project type of country. john mccain probably said it right. if you want to do it, you betting be prepared to be there 100 years and change a generation. we're not there. i don't believe in that comparison. it's a false choice. unfortunately we have bad seas in front of us. >> martha: peter, good to see you. thanks for weighing in. >> thank you, martha. >> martha: you bet. a new clue into this cryptic message that we heard live here a couple days back from derek chauvin next. >> there's going to be some other information in the future that would be of interest and i hope things will give you some peace of mind. are at all-time highs. ome s you could have much more equity than you think! banks can loan you some of it. newday can loan you all of it! the newday100 va cash out loan. people everywhere living with type 2 diabetes are waking up to what's possi

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an element there between afghanistan and pakistan as well.ill be able to threaten our homeland the way al qaeda did when it planned the 9/11 attacks on afghan soil under taliban control. that would take a good bit longer. and i don't think they have that capability. more over, i'm much more confident in the capability of u.s. intelligence and a variety of other processes, organizations and so forth that we've put together to ensure that we would detect something akin to a 9/11 attack. >> one of the issues that service members, when you talk to them, bring up over and over, and even their family members, spouses i talk to will bring this up. they're so concerned about the interpreters, drivers, engineers and other afghans who help the u.s., there are tens of thousands of people and many more family members who are in this category. and their lives are in danger. in the absence of a mass evacuation of these afghans who help the u.s., what's going to happen to them? >> if they are left behind and security crumbles, again i hope my worst fears ar

america lives, what, 7000 miles from afghanistan? russia is very close to afghanistan.na, iran, pakistan are actually on afghanistan's borders. they will always be concerned with what happens in afghanistan. they also have the same interest as the united states and in combating isis and international islamist terrorism as well as india. also consequences of an outright civil war in afghanistan. this was a real opportunity for america through russia to talk to the region about coordinating future approaches. because without a regional consensus on afghanistan, i am afraid there will be no possibility of peace in the future. juan: and in terms of ukraine -- this is a redline issue in terms of russia and the possibility of ukraine entering nato. what is your expectation of how this will develop, whether nato will keep trying to recruit ukraine? >> well, it was very interesting yesterday or was it the day before now, the president of ukraine issued a tweet claiming biden had extended an immediate offer of nato membership. that of course was not true. it was sent to trap the

people of afghanistan. i'm going to ask him to introduce himself, so i'm going to begin with shooter. i josh, thank you them. sure, jamal. i'm the head of international relations and regional cooperation at the office of the national security council here in couple. thank you. on the show. thank you for being. i know it's about midnight and ca appreciate you being up tonight with us and chagrin. hi gosh and everyone else. and yes, my name is shaquea and i'm from re bastard. they're just women's and human rights activists. fantastic, thank you sir. chris and moving on to ali. i'm the one i'm the lead fee. i'm a journalist from call. all right, fantastic. you. i want to thank you so 20 years on from the us invasion. they also the taliban rather quickly, but they never really knocked them out. and really put them away. it's like water, the dam holding them back over all this time. and now would you agree, does it seem from your perspective there and cobble that the taliban is indeed ascended at the moment. but

withdrawal from afghanistan? guest: after 20 years, there is no military solution to the afghanistan issue. i agree with the president about pulling out. there are real concerns in regard to some of the freedoms and rights -- and afghanistan. we need to make sure they are still protected. the taliban has to stand up and make sure their pledge in regards to al qaeda and other terrorist organizations trying to organize in afghanistan. there are things we will have to pay very close attention to. some of those individuals who worked with us, lives could be on the line. we have to make sure we do not turn our backs on them. we are looking at congress giving special details for their safety if they have to move. i am confident -- our state department and diplomats on the ground, trying to help secure a better future for the people of afghanistan. we will not be turning our backs on them. the military solution, we could be there for another 40 years. to turn the situation around and afghanistan so it can be better for

. >> another battlefield victory for the taliban in afghanistan.horities say the district in the northern province has been captured by insurgents after less than a day of fighting. taliban forces have not yet entered the provincial capital. but on monday residents were already fleeing as the sound of gunfire could be heard in the district. -- in the distance. in the past few days, two dozen of afghanistan's districts have fallen to the taliban. adding to some 30 others seized since may 1 when u.s.nd anto officials began their official departure from the war-torn country. most districts are near afghanistan's northern border with - a proximity to key supply routes connecting the country to central asia. thafghan government says it expects the taliban offensive to intensify in the coming weeks. even as the insurgents and the government pursue peace talks in qatar. observers believe the taliban may be delaying any progress while they continue to gain ground and strength in their position. in response, the pentagon they id the u.s. military could slow

and two of them, still, live in afghanistan.came back here, i helped those family to apply for, you know -- they didn't know any -- but i don't want to leave behind. you know, we help them to apply for the visas. and then, i know another person and -- and -- and i visited, too. and he has been waiting only for the interview for the past three years, and he has faced a lot of threats. you know, the same things going on, every day. >> and what is the holdup, in your estimation? was the holdup the trump administration, before? and do you think, now, with the biden administration coming in, do you think things -- do you believe president biden when he says, don't worry, we won't leave them behind? >> we do believe that. for instance, we landed a rover on mars in seven months, you know, but it takes three and a half years to process paperwork. that really doesn't make sense and it's killing our allies in afghanistan. so, we appreciate biden's administration to, you know, expedite the process. and we are looking forward, you know, to

afghanistan and the safe withdrawal of troo s? , afghanistan and the safe withdrawal of troos?s? , , , , , , of troops? yes, yes, yes and yes. let me go — of troops? yes, yes, yes and yes. let me go back — of troops? yes, yes, yes and yes. let me go back to _ of troops? yes, yes, yes and yes. let me go back to the _ of troops? yes, yes, yes and yes. let me go back to the first - of troops? yes, yes, yes and yes. let me go back to the first part. l let me go back to the first part. the reason it did not go longer is when the last time two heads of state have spent over two hours in direct conversation across the table undergoing into excruciating detail? you may know a time, i don't, i can't think of one. so we did not need come as we got through, as we brought in the larger group, our defence, intelligent and my foreign minister, my secretary of state, was with me the whole time. our ambassador, etc, brought everybody in. we had covered so much. and so there was a summary done by him and by me of what we covered, sergey lavrov and antony blinken talk about what we covered, we m

true it proposes a one.6 percent increase with those additional dollars as a result of leaving afghanistan so i think it is fair. but in order to begin the drafting bills, has to be agreed-upon i urge congress to bipartisan and bicameral discussions at the white house to establish the top lines we can begin our work in short order and for too long congress has spending in terms of defense and nondefense it's time we look at the totality that the appropriations committee has tried to do with our precious federal dollars to the greatest needs of today time is wasting we have to get to work. now first i will turn to the vice chairman shelby for his opening statement that then to senator tester and who is as well-equipped as anybody to be there. >> thank you mr. chairman also to welcome secretary austin back to this committee. the world is a complex and dangerous place and we all know we understand the magnitude of the challenges we face from our adversaries to take the position as a world leader and on military power. china and russia are former adversaries and china mr. secretary has proven