>> i got the impression about general al-sisi that he is very a very strong man and that he is trying to do what he thinks is best for the egyptian people. >> but without reconciliation we know how this movie ends. you cannot sustain the status quo, and he understands that. >> reporter: graham and mccain said the muslim brotherhood leaders must be released from prison to enter into negotiations and that both sides must renounce violence. but the government has warned that the window for dialogue is rapidly closing. do you think egypt might fail? >> i think it might. i think i wouldn't be here if i didn't think that it might. and i think the events in the next few weeks will determine that. >> i'll go one step further. i think it's going to fail if rimething doesn't change. and to the american people, failure in egypt matters to us. >> dubois: clarissa ward joins us now from cairo. clarissa, i'm wondering, what's been the reaction of everyday egyptians to the senators' visit? >> reporter: well, maurice anti- american sentiment is at an all- time high here and egyptians who support the

general al sisi is a graduate from the war, so you would think that the u.s.ould have influence in the region. chuck hagel has been in contact with general al sisi not to do this, and did he it any way. i think it's a test to find solution to this. >> cenk: what i'm concerned about is the outright violence, 149 killed. in an earlier set of protests dozens were killed as well. there were clear shooting to kill from the military based on how the bullets hit the bodies based from the doctors on an earlier protest. what precedence does this set? if the military do this to the muslim brotherhood could they do this to other protesters? >> sure they can. you have to think about the history of egypt. for 800 years egypt was the intellectual capitol of islam. and then armies moved in. a substantial population simply do not want to live an islamist culture. they want to have a secular government. there are going to be a variety of position on this. what was the intelligence that the military had that brought death to twice the number that you mentioned. what is it that

>> well, general al-sisi is a very interesting figure and he rose very quickly to the top of the egyptian military. he's enormously powerful in the country now. his stated views-- as much as we know them-- are a mix of egypt is a muslim country and its religious orientation needs to be respected. at the same time egypt is a diverse society with christians as well as mum licks living inside its borders with a place in the region and in the world that requires balance. where he broke with the muslim brothers, as best i can tell, was over their head-long rush to islam sooiz in a political sense the system in i jipt. and the fact that they were not prepared to open the doors to a consensus arrangement with so many tens of thousands of other egyptians, eventually millions, who took to the streets and al-sisi found himself the inhertor as egyptian officers will of the responsibility for the maintenance of the egyptian state and the egyptian order and pressed to that outcome he took the action that he took on july 3. >> rose: do you think the united states has influence with him because of the l

. >> i swear to god that if people don't keep protesting, al-sisi will to strike this country to moreouble, dragged this nation into civil war so he can escape the death penalty. be aware, egyptian people, going to the streets now to announce the end of the military coup and to announce the officers and the soldiers of the military party would kill its own people should not respond to its instructions. >> lina attalah had to leave. being reported that hundreds of morsi supporters have stormed a set fire to a governor building ingiza. sharif, could you explain to me you mentioned earlier that brotherhood supporters have also attacked coptic christian churches in the country, could you explain why these targets are being selected? >> the report of the attack on giza security governor happened while we were on the air right now and there has been calls for mass marches today, mostly funeral marches for those killed yesterday, but of course there is a seething anger within the rank-and-file of the muslim brotherhood and other morsi supporters. we are increasingly getting into a situation

sisi claims he has turned over power to a civilian government, but his popularity has raised questions about his own political ambitions. retired general sameh seif alyazal isn't worried about that. >> sisi already holds three of the most powerful jobs: commander of the armed forces, defense minister and deputy prime minister. today egypt's military-backed government ordered the breakup of the muslim brotherhood's protest camps. there have been two mass killings of morsi supporters in the past few weeks, but yen sameh seif al-yazal said it will be the muslim brotherhood's fault and not sisi's if things turn bloody. do you think this can be resolved peacefully? resolved peacefully? >> >> reporter: will they get it? >> i know quite well that the police will try definitely to make it the easy way, not the hard way. but i'm sure they will not do it the easy way. i'm sure they will like the hard way. >> schieffer: clarissa ward in cairo. clarissa, how did the muslim brotherhood react to all of this? >> reporter: well, bob, the muslim brotherhood has said that it is not frightened by today's announcement. a spokesperson for the group has accused the gover

you saw that our secretary of defense chuck hagel calls general al sisi, the authoritarian leader ofpt, and he said the military relationship is at risk. that is a wairng to the egyptian government, if they don't come forward with a plan for political reform, the united states could take the more drastic action in the future. >> woodruff: joe stork, we just heard ambassador burns say the u.s. is among, if not the most powerful player in the region, yet we heard the president today say the u.s. can't determine egypt's future. so what is the influence? >> i think the fact that chuck hagel made these 15 to 18 calls to general al sisi yesterday, is one indication of the limits of u.s. influence. also, you know, the u.s. aid, this $1.5 billion, it's not small change, but on the other hand, it ain't what it used to be in 19 sphierng or 1999, and we're look at a situation where saudi arabia, yiepted arab emirates, kuwait are pouring in funds to support the general. it's not as easy a picture, equation as it used to be. >> woodruff: ambassador burns, in a way you're both saying there are lim

including al sisi. there are larger regional security issues where government needs operation. security along the suez canal where warships routinely transit and the border and gaza strip. the administration has few good options. and each day they answer the fuel to call to cut off aid. >> that is not in line with the standards we expect governments to uphold in terms of human rights. >> a decision to cut off aid would carry wide repercussions. al jazeera washington. >> four state department officials placed on leave after the cake i attack in bengahzi, . u.s. diplomat i can mission in bengahzi was attacked by a heavily guard group. 14 people died including the u.s. ambassador to libya, chris stevens. >>> students will return to class this morning one day after a gunman with an assault weapon open fired at their georgia school. the school indicator was evacuated after a man covering ak 478 walked in, took one employee captive and fired shots at officers. the suspect eventually surrendered to police who identified him as michael brandon hill. investigators say the 20-year-old ha

in an interview with the "washington post," major general abdul fattah al sisi said: for more on that we turn to urnrissa ward in cairo. clarissa, what's the latest? >> reporter: that's right, terrell, in a two-hour interview, sisi accused the u.s. of ignoring the will of the egyptian people by refusing to endorse the military takeover, a measure he said he took to prevent this country from descending into civil war. sisi said he speaks to secretary of defense chuck hagel every day but president obama has not called him once since morsi's ouster. >> brown: we know that secretary of state bill burns is work with both sides. how are those negotiations oting? >> reporter: burns has been meeting with all the top players, including general sisi, and working closely with a top european union diplomat trying to get both sides to agree to a n.litical settlement to prevent further bloodshed. but we do not know how successful those talks have been. >> brown: clarissa ward in cairo for us tonight. narissa, thank you. the obama administration has amaoed a ban on importing certain older models of

there's a lot of stores and shops that have al sisi's poster up. there was just an olive branch extended by the army. they put on their facebook page, this is now how the egyptian army communicates, saying there is, quote, room for everybody in egypt. whether that is an olive branch or simply a statement, we have to wait and find out whether that makes any difference really on the street as those protests continue today. jamie? >> more on how that message is received coming up. thank you so much. good to see you. >>> meantime, the european union is actually reacting to all of this chaos in egypt, saying it will, quote, urgently review its relations with the country. adding that they have set up their own crisis talks on the situation for later this week. we'll keep an eye on that. >>> jamie, the question this morning, what is next? can washington exert any influence at all in cairo? u.s. ambassador john bolton, former ambassador to the united states, fox news contributor joins us about this time every sunday. good morning, ambassador. >> good morni

. >> schieffer: and, clarissa, just adding to all of this, now general al sisi who led to the takedown of president morsi and the elected government comes out and in an interview with the "washington post" takes a real swipe at the united states saying egyptians will never forget that we abandoned them in this very tense time. were you a little surprised that he said that? >> reporter: i don't think anybody hear was very surprised. there's a lot of anti-americanism here. in that two-hour interview, sisi basically said the u.s. ignored the will of the egyptian people by refusing to endorse the military takeover and said he only ousted president morse tow prevent this country from devolving into a state of civil war. he urged the u.s. as well to use its leverage with the muslim brotherhood to try to force them to abandon their protest camps. >> schieffer: you've got a lot to be on the lookout for down there, clarissa, so be very careful this morning. thank you. >> reporter: thank you. >> schieffer: the chairman of the house homeland security committee is in san diego this morning. he and

officials have pleaded with general al-sisi to stop the murder, but to no veil. he trained at the u.s. army war college and is wide in american interests. but what are the american interests? most important is our relationship with israel. the lynch pin of u.s. strategy designed to preserve peace. the camp david accord signed in 1979 remain the bedrock of egypt's treaty with israel. two years after he signed this milestone in arab israeli history, he paid with his life for signing it. there is also a question of u.s. access to the suez canal, a crucial link for oil and gas headed to europe, asia and the united states. and finally, there is the looming presence of al-qaeda in the sinai peninsula. there is a depleted and permanently chaotic egypt. if anyone has any doubts about the nature of the muslim brotherhood, consider the frenzied burning and looting of dozens of christian churches these past weeks. there are no jews around to kill. they have long left. so the dwindling christian minority is a handy target. in one reported attack, the brotherhood fanatics tor

and what we've seen general al-sisi do is rip that prospect away from them.hat can have nasty consequences not only for the united states itself. i think that this is in 1989. we imposed very harsh sanctions on china and later the same president sent them to china because we need china. you can do both. you can punish egypt's general, suspend aid temporarily, and then bring it back because we can't abandon egyptian entirely but it's wrong to acquiesce so the circumstances that are in play under that general. >> steve, to that point, what do you read into the fact that it seemed like general sisi, it was kind of a dual statement. on the one hand he says there's room for everyone and on the other he says he's saying we're not going to stand by and let the violence happen. >> mohamed morsi made the same comments without killing lots of people. he was also speaking in an incli inclusive kind of language. our leverage in egypt is not the money we give them. it's decades of human relationships both in the intelligence services and the pentagon. the human relationsh

years ago and then morsi pushed over the top level -- remaining level of the military and appointed al-sisi who is in charge and who i'm betting is fairly uncomfortable with this turn of events. mubarak may be charged with murder and it's also true, i think, in egypt that the courts have some independence. i6' been there four times the last year and nothing is good about these developments in egypt. >> so, jane, what do you think we should expect in terms of what's next in the short term? is there any chance for stability there in egypt? take us through a scenario that you see there. >> let's start out with no good options and very little leverage. richard engel is right that all sides distrust us now. at the wilson center we've had these ground truth briefings with some of the people on the ground and some i have confidence in lining the foreign minister and anwar issadat who' the nephew of anwar sadat. they're urging us now the to call this a coup. they say they had to intervene. however, the military to my surprise is irrigating more and more power to itself and these folks that i mentio

you and senator mccain talked to leaders on both sides, you talked to general al-sisi. do you think he is running things now? >> absolutely. i saw a man very conflicted. he's having people whisper in his ear from the sunni gulf states, even israel "crush the brotherhood." if you think you can take 25% 30r% of the population and put them in jail and kill them, you're making a mistake. that is al year ya. and we've sent mixed signals. john mccain and i called it a coup because that's what it is but we wanted time to restart. when secretary kerry said that the military was restoring democracy they took that the wrong way. when they started jailing the leaders of the government that was a signal that they weren't interest in a transition. they weren't trying to restore order, they're trying to grab power and somebody needs to look and say "you're going to destroy egypt, you're going doom your country to a beggar state, you'll create an insurgency for generations to come. turn around, general, before it's too late. you're a better man than that." >> schieffer: let me shift a

reporter: the coptic pope was among the religious and lay figures who appeared alongside general al sisi condemning the post-morsi persecution of christians obama administration spokesmen appear careful always to balance it with displays of concern for muslims. >> we have been concerned and condemned the violence that was perpetrated by the government against peaceful protesters p and we're just as outraged and just as concerned about reports that christian churches have been torgted. >> we deplore in the strongest terms the reprehensible attacks of over 40 coptic christian churches and other christian institutions. we're also deeply troubled by the suspicion deaths of muslim brotherhood prisoners in a purported prison escape attempt near cairo. >> reporter: in northwestern syria last month, amateur video purported to show islamist elements among the syrian rebels beheading franciscan father, a catholic priest for allegedly conspireing with the assad regime. >> wherever we see radical islam we see persecution of christians. christians. type of religion. i think it's one of the largest un

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