, other places outside of alabama. i would be glad to take your figures. >> i'm talking about one day governor. we can go further into the -- there were other killings. there was 100 the complete jurisdiction of the federal government, one person was killed on the highway which was very tragic. when i compare that one person with how many was killed in washington, detroit, los angeles, so comparatively speaking, we have had peace. this is generally accepted in the press that we have had these. [over talk] >> i think send the urban was trying to make, his point was that what followed after that -- gov. wallace: let me say th is, over five years ago -- >> is it right or wrong what followed after 64 -- gov. wallace: every time somebody once a law passed, they go out and do something. we had martin luther king tragically assassinated and they used that as an excuse to pass anti-property laws on housing. what followed after that? there's always somebody able to say that some reason exists because of some law. i can say to y

, new haven, other places outside of alabama. i would be glad to take your figures. 15 were hurt -- host: i'm talking about one day governor. we can go further into the -- the read killings. there were other killings. gov. wallace: there was one that took place after it was over, when it was under the complete jurisdiction of the federal government, not under the jurisdiction of the state. and one person was killed on the highway which was very tragic. when i compare that one person with how many was killed in washington, detroit, los angeles, so comparatively speaking, we have had peace. and this is generally accepted in the press that we have had peace. [crosstalk] i think the -- host: i think the point senator urban was trying to make, his point was that what followed after that -- gov. wallace: let me say this, you are quoting him over four years ago, over five years ago -- host: is it right or is it wrong, what happened after 1964 or 1965? gov. wallace: every time somebody wants a law passed, they go out and do something. we

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hank williams, of course, himself, a native alabama and -- alabama and. i have often show this in class begins long. it's a great documentary that captures this remarkable kind of political life that george wallace led. so, the problem is, george wallace never became a republican. it's kind of odd to say that he was the most important figure in building the party when he was never a member of the party. has got to be another story. what else is going on? >> another way you could tell the story of the growth of the republican party is to say that, it is not george wallace that is important. it is a guy like this. george hw bush. this is a picture of the young bush family when they had just moved to west texas. george bush was a member of kind of new england royalty. he was from connecticut. his father was a republican senator. from the state of connecticut. prescott bush. he was a hero of world war ii. where he was shot down as a fighter pilot. he returned from the war, went to yale, played baseball. he graduated, and set out to the south to kind of make a

in the mid 1960's he returned to teach in alabama. where he became president of the selma teachers association. he used both leadership positions to actively educate blacks in selma about the right to vote. with courage and tenacity, he led the first ever teachers march to the selma dallas unty courthouse where over demanded the hers right to vote. he challenged his fellow teachers to exercise their right of citizenship by saying, how can can we teach american civics if we ourselves can cannot vote? as the president of the dallas county voters league, he invited dr. king to selma to support their local efforts. with the help of dr. king, he organized a voting demanded the right to vote. he challenged his fellow rights on march 7, 1965, a day that will live in infamy as bloody sunday. during the march protestors were brutally beaten and sprayed with tear gas simply for the right to vote. the sacrifices made that day by foot soldiers like doctor reese were captured by national outlets and led to the rise of so many americans who came to

with the support of black alabama voters, right? and he embraced -- he embraced the kind of economic populous agenda that he had begun his political career with it's a remarkable story. great documentary. setting the woods on fire. let's see. let's go back. it's a great documentary. it's a title from a hank williams song setting the woods on fire. and i have often times showed this in classes. it's a great documentary that captures this remarkable political life that george wallace lead. so but the problem is george wallace never became republican so it's kind of odd to say he was the most important figure in building the party when he was never a member of the party. so there has to be another story. what else is going on? well another way you could tell the story of the growth of the republican party is to say that no, it's not george wallace that's important. it's a guy like this. george h.w. bush. now this is a picture of the young bush family when they just moved to west texas. george bush was a member of new england royalty. h

but down in alabama, there's one sheriff there who has found his job very enriching. >> alabama sheriff feed inmates for himself. a published report hints that etowah county sheriff todd entrekin took so much of that money, he bought an expensive beach house. >> trevor: okay, that is wild. ( laughter ) apparently, this sheriff took $750,000 that was supposed to feed inmates in a prison, and used it to buy a beach house. yeah. and, i'm sorry, if you're going to be ciphening cash, you have to be subtle about it. u can't be going around buying houses. like, that's one of the top signs that you have a lot of money. that and buying your dog breast implants. you're busted. we know. ( laughter ) but maybe the reason the sheriff wasn't trying to hide it is that he didn't care about being caught because it turns out-- and this shocked me when i found this out-- in alabama, it's not against the law. >> because a depression-era state law makes alabama sheriffs personally responsible for feeding inmates, the performance bonus entrekin gave himself is legal. over the last three years, the sheriff's

with the support of black alabama voters. right? and he embraced the kind of economic populist agenda that he had begun his political career with in the 1940s and 1950s. it's really a remarkable story. it's a great documentary "setting the woods on fire." let's go back. "setting the woods on fire" is a great documentary. it's the title from a hank williams song. "setting the woods on fire." hank williams of course himself is a native alabamian. and i've oftentimes showed this in class. it's worth watching. it's long, but it's a great documentary that really captures this remarkable kind of political life that george wallace led. so the problem is that george wallace never became a republican. so it's kind of odd to say that he was the most important figure of the republican party. so there's got to be another story going on. another way you can tell the story is to say no, it is not george wallace that's important. it's a guy like this. george h.w. bush. now, this is a picture of the bush -- young bush family when they have j

here in alabama, we know something washington doesn't.ere we're going, we need to understand where we've been. >> governor ivy has taken the exact opposite view that you describe germany took in the post-na post-n post-nazi era. >> first of all, we're inviting everyone to come see the monuments and memorial and the governor among many other elected officials is more than welcome. we've had a lot of elected officials say i'm going to be there. i just think the iconography that we've created in the american south is dishonest. it's a distortion of history. it's not actually designed to help people understand who we are and what we've done. it's actually designed to help people forget some things, and in the 19th century, we brought hundreds of thousands of enslaved people. we brutalized and treated them badly and we haven't acknowledged that. the two are robert e. lee high and jefferson davis high and the confederate monuments were erected at the turn of the century and the statue of robert e. lee high school inial bamma was erected in 1955

. >> in 1963, the state university of alabama is still whites only.versity of alabama. >> two black students, vivian malone and james hood, are determined to enroll at america's last all-white state university. >> my sister knew the consequences of what could happen. people were getting beaten and killed over very simple rights, but she faced her fears and she felt tired of accepting second-class citizenship. >> standing in their way is the state's governor who made an election promise to keep the campus segregated. >> george wallace, the governor of alabama, said that he would stand at the schoolyard door and that he would use violence to stop black students who wanted to enroll. >> is there any way that you could get the guard in there? >> bobby realizes the inherent danger of the situation and sends nick katsenbach, his senior aide to the university of alabama. >> we're still considering what we ought to do, whether or not we should call up the guard and have them already there. go in with you. >> as the situation unfolds in alabama, one of bobby's

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that is -- everybody in alabama was a strict segregation nis in the 1940s and '50s. and he believed in economic development and kind of had a progressive economic platform. wallace ran for governor in 1958 and ran against candidate john paterson and lost the election. he was convinced he lost because john paterson had got ton the right of him on race issues. and presented himself as the most strident, strongest segregation nis in the race. this is the heart of massive resistance. everybody is running to the right in southern politics because of the supreme court's decision and school desegregation. wallace vowed -- this is one of the great falk stories about this. wallace vowing in the aftermath of the 1958 race that he would never be out-seg'd or sometime it is used by using the n word. he is elected in 1962 and he is elected and given an inaugural address and pledges segregation, today, tomorrow and forever. and in the schoolhouse door he sets himself up as the foremost southern segregationist and then does something surprising. he is not content to be the foremost

our second prize high school are 11th graders at ramsey high school in birmingham, alabama, where c-spans available for spectrum. in their winning entry titled "you matter," they tell us about the 15th amendment. take a look. question, you the who counted among "we the people" when our constitution was new, not necessarily many people. certainly i wouldn't. certainly not people who were held in human bondage. >> the 15th amendment is very important to our constitution because what it does is protect the right of every citizen to vote and to not be disenfranchised from voting, whether it be for sexual preference, race, gender, or even if you have a past conviction. -- it is aemocracy true democracy in our country to make sure that everyone has input, and that input comes by way of your vote. >> is that amendment did and did and exist, we would be in real trouble. it is possible we would not have had barack obama as president. --black citizens [indiscernible] you have to get votes to get elected. when they had a segment people -- a segment of people that couldn't vote, they played to the a

she had never been outside of montgomery, alabama. let alone alabama, let alone the united states.and it dawned on me that my going to scotland, too many of these people, was like sending an astronaut to outer space, and that with me were going that only their prayers but their hopes and their aspirations and the dreams and imaginings of the unknown and the wondrous world that was before me. and yet again i was reminded that to whom much is given, much is required. a washington d.c. friend recently found himself at a conference, and in the company of a very successful white attorney from montgomery, alabama. my friend immediately attempted to play the name and place game. do you know eric motley? he is from madison park. the attorney politely replied no, i don't know man, and where is madison park? my friend was taken aback because he assumed after hearing me talk about madison park so much over the last decade, everyone in alabama, let alone montgomery, new of madison park. i'm telling you this story come he incredulously added, the guy looked at me as if madison park did not exis

host: next in selma, alabama on the democrat line. caller: i would like to say, ,rump, and the last caller let's see, how can we get together? million and then has a billion dollars. listen to me. daughters, six years. she did it. host: we will let you go. we get to john in vernon, new jersey, the republican line. caller: how are you today? host: doing fine, thank you. caller: i would like to talk a little bit about journalistic integrity. what we have here is a media that is basically out of control. very similar to what we had in the 1960's, where we had been bradley carrying john kennedy's water for years. he and the wife are going up to hyannisport every weekend, having a grand old party with jackie and john, and the entire presidency, been bradley in the washington post carried the kennedy's water. 10 years later, they get journalistic integrity and they go after nixon. we have the same thing today now. we have people in the media for eight years that carried obama's water. he had his little chicago mafia in d.c. the university o

and sunday at 4:00 on real former alabama governor george wallace. watch this weekend on the c-span network. zuckerberg ceo mark testified at the second day of hearings f

i'm pretty sure that was written by somebody from alabama. coach saban and the team captains will meet with president trump in the oval office and the group will join the rest of the team and hundreds of tide fans out on the south lawn and that event will of course be open to the press. with that, i will take your questions. because it is her birthday, nadia, i'll go with you and happy birthday. >> reporter: thank you, sarah. the president authorized the use of military force last year after they used chemical weapons but this didn't deter him. the president talks of a very serious account now. how will he hold president assad accountable now? >> the president's been clear, we're working with our partners and allies and our national security team to look at all options and as we've said, all options are on the table but i'm not going to get ahead of anything the president may or may not do in response to what's taken place in syria. >> jonathan. >> reporter: sara, talking about the raid on michael cohen's office, the president said it's an at

winners are ashley richardson and takaya cooper, 11th graders at ramsey high school in birmingham, alabama where c-span is available through spectrum. in their winning entry titled "you matter" they tell us about the 15th amendment, take a look. by asking the question, who counted among we the people when well, stitution was new, not very many people. certainly i wouldn't. certainly not people who were held in human bondage. >> the 15th amendment is very important to our constitution because what it does is it protects the rights of every citizen, the right to vote. and to not be disenfranchised from voting, whether it be for your sexual preference, race, gender, or even if you had a past conviction. it is a true democracy in our country to make sure that everyone has the opportunity to have input and that input comes by way of your vote. >> without the 15th amendment it's possible we couldn't be barack obama for president if you want to go that deep. >> black citizens under the constitution didn't care what they thought. lected people didn't feel like that they were important, you have to

and alabama, we have our share. every year it seems between tornadoes or hurricanes, we are -- we cinch up in the spring waiting for the next tornado to hit. and then late summer and fall, it's always as a hurricane going to hit the gulf of mexico. so we've had our share. it was 20 years ago this week i think that i had -- it was the united states attorney and toured the f-5 tornado that went through oak grove and areas where my family had serious deep resident roots, both in their homes and their churches. the damage that can cause and i would urge colleagues if never hits their state to go see. you can't appreciate it on television like you can. it will take your breath away. recently we had a storm hit in the northeast section of alabama that did a significant amount of damage in a number of counties, including damage to jacksonville state university. a number of their buildings. fortunately, it hit during spring break. and none of those students or very few of those students were on campus. can you give me any u

the state of alabama took a little piece of me every day. every day. and then one day out of all of the sadness i heard a grown man laugh and i mean a true life. it was my sense of humor and they got me through the darkest hour. and i tried to spread the sense of humor throughout the death row even to the guards. i've seen what communication can do. it is used in the right way. i don't understand how you can laugh for what's been done to you. i look to that person and i said i didn't just forgive so easily i told you the story for those i threw as far on the bed as i could. i told god he doesn't live here anymore. i kept wondering what type of god would allow an innocent man to go to prison for something that he didn't do. and all my life my mom told me all you have to do is trust in him and believe in him. there is nothing else it's hard to believe in what she told you. i didn't say anything i would just sit there and when i heard this other man laugh going into the fourth year i woke up and i decided that i would take my life back. i decided instead

and we're in alabama with more of his legacy in the political world. let's get to our team set up and ready to go. nbc news national security and military reporter, courtney cue be. we're waiting for the white house with something on syria. you've talked to the director of house intelligence and you're learning more about there right? >> that's right halle. the national security had a meeting this morning with reporters, when asked about syria's comment, he said the military is getting out of syria soon. dni coats stated there was a significant and insignificant meeting at the white house discussing this issue and there was a decision made and the white house would be coming out with a statement soon. my colleague, kera lee is now reporting that the decision was -- president trump reluctantly agreed to keep some troops in u.s. military in syria for a number of time to clean out the isis presence. i'm sure you know this, there's a area called the middle euphrates valley. that area still has quite an isis presence there. more than 90% of the isis presenc

it was there -- montgomery, alabama. in 1965 he took leadership of a bus boycott. through nonviolence over the period of a year, he won that strike with a federal desegregation order in alabama. his nonviolent campaign spread through the south and he became the leader of the southern christian leadership conference, a conference of primarily negro ministers. since the rise of radical negros such as stokely carmichael, king had been considered a voice of moderation, and white leaders had looked to his policy of nonviolence as a hopeful antidote to those who preached riot and hatred. >> we're looking back to 1968: america in turmoil on c-span and c-span3's american history tv. that report occurring 50 years ago this week. we'll be talking about it this morning. certainly that topic and others as we cover civil rights and race relations from 1968. we're joined for that discussion this morning by kathleen cleaver, senior lecturer of emory university school of law as well as a former communications secretary for the black panther party. and peniel joseph from u.t. austi

. >> in 1963 the state university of alabama is still ligwhites o. an attempt is made to integrate.te state university. >> my sister knew the consequences of what could happen. people were getting beaten and killed over very simple rights. but she faced her fears and she felt tired of accept iing secon class citizenship. >> standing in their way is the state's governor who made an election promise to keep the campus segregated. >> george wallace, the governor of alabama said he would stand at the schoolyard door and use violence to stop black student who is wanted to enroll. >> is there any way to get the guards in there? >> bobby realizes the inherent danger of the situation and sends nick his senior aid to the university of alabama. >> we're still considering what we ought to do, whether or not we should call out the guard. >> as the situation unfolds in alabama, one of bobby's children drops by to visit her father. >> i remember sitting behind a chair in the television room while my father was talking with his aids about these issues. history was happening at our house. it was ha

was a little known minister and the leader of a bus boycott in montgomery, alabama, that started whenvist rosa parks refused to give up her seat to a white man. >> this is a nonviolent protest using the method of passive resistance. >> martin luther king was a man of huge thoughtfulness about the strate that he had askedhose who followed him to use. and that strategy was that in the face of violence, you have a moral high ground if you did not return violence with violence. >> negro passengers have been humiliated, intimidated. >> reporter: at first the young minister who went by the unassuming name of m.l. king was only covered by black journalists writing for black papers. >> in particular, "the birmingham world," a black newspaper and its editor emory jackson. he writes about long before anyone else that dr. king is invoking gandhian principles. he becomes referred to in the black press as the black moses. the white editors, they were just living in a different world. >> the majority press, the white press basically ignored african-americans and not just episodes of violence agains

governor kay ivy signed the alabama memorial preservation act of 2017.round to protect public monuments more than 40 years old. now up for re-election, governor ivy released this ad on tuesday. >> up in washington, they always know better. politically correct nonsense, i say. when special interests wanted to tear down or historical monuments i said no and signed a law to protect them. i went change our erase our history, but here in alabama we know something washington doesn't. to get where we're going means understanding where we've been. >> cute, right? of course she neglects to mention the monument includes public schools named after confederates and the special interest she drags including the naacp and the alabama black caucus. like there is some problem with black students going to jefferson davis high school. but apparently surplus of stupid -- on tuesday, because on that same day i saw the city of memphis, tennessee, stood to lose a quarter of a million dollars in state funding as punishment by republican state politicians, angered by its removal

that's because alabama has to vote again. anybody want to come fight us, we will take the earrings off. we got this, but doug jones needs to understand we will get this for him, but he needs to also get something for us. reaching across the aisle. my arms are wide, too, but make sure you even close to home. we want a little help, too. don't forget our needs. don't forget our desires. don't forget the issues that we need. we need health care. we still need jobs. the unemployment rate is low, but in my neighborhood, it is still high. we still need vocational training. we still need to support our hbcu's. i was laughing the other day. i said i graduated from lsu. tell seven, xavier, dillard, and grambling that because i give them my money. i give lsu my alumni donation. i give them my money. because i understand that 's, we woulde hbcu not have a generation who was able to fight for my education. let's not forget that. when you look at 435 members of congress, this is our moment to expand our reach and let new -- elect new peopl

in montgomery, alabama, he won fame.e took leadership of a bus and with his, policy of nonviolence over a period of a year, won that strike with the federal desegregation order in alabama. his nonviolence campaign sprint through the south, and he became the leader of the southern christian leadership conference, the conference primary of niekro ministers. since the rise of radical knee grows suggest oakley carmichael, king had been considered a voice of moderation and white leaders have look to his policy of nonviolence to those who preached hatred. to 1968. looking back america and turmoil on c-span and c-span3's american history tv. that report from michael -- that report from walter cronkite the crane 50 years ago this week. we will talk about it this morning. that topic and others as the cover civil rights in race relations from 1968. we are joined by kathleen cleaver, senior lecturer at emory university school of law, and the former communications secretary of the black panther party. and we also welcome peniel jose

without joann robinson, of the women's political counsel in montgomery, alabama, or rosa parks. people who were day-to-day organizers. what he is doing as an articulate her is he is able to galvanize attention for what people have been doing at the local level. even though what movements lose when someone is assassinated is that there is no focal point or figurehead that can bring that kind of media attention, but the movements continue. host: the caller mentioned robert kennedy. he enters the race in march 1968. what did he mean to the civil rights movement in 1968? peniel: -- kathleen: i'm not certain that the movement -- we called ourselves the black power movement, a little different energy than civil rights. we were not committed to nonviolence, we were committed to radical social justice and economic change. bobby kennedy articulated, as a mainstream politician, some of the interest that the social justice movement had, which is more than likely why he didn't even get a chance to get out the gate. he was murdered as soon as he making a speech so the right-wing repression t

the state of alabama too to the little piece of me every day. then one day in office us i heard a blind man laughing and for some reason it triggered something inside of me and i began to laugh with him. speak to [laughter] it was my sense of humor that got me through and i tried to to spread that sense of humor throughout even to the guards. i have seen with the communication could do when it was used in the right way. i don't even understand how you can laugh with what has been done to you. i looked at tha the person and i said the best part for me to do this to forgive. i threw it as far as i could and i told god he doesn't live here anymore. i kept wondering what kind of god would allow an innocent man to go to prison for something that he didn't do and all of my life my mom told me god can do anything in his will on you after this trust and believe in him. and i knew one thing if nothing else, my mother would imply to me. if you've been convicted of a crime that you and go have thout about you addicted to come it is hard to believe what she

and how to hedge against uncertainty and engineer by training most recently from the university of alabama at huntsville before returning to the department of defense serving as administrator of nasa 2005 through ten -- 2009 prior to their key with head of the space department at john

alabama is next. camp hill. bob. the public in line. caller: there used to be -- republican line. caller: there used to be a time agencye law-enforcement in this country would arrest a mob organization. and that clinton outfit -- host: bob, are you still there? caller: yes, i was saying there was a time in the country where the law-enforcement agents in this country would arrest a mob organization, and the clinton organization is a terrible thing that has been perpetrated on this country. this woman took money from russians, and they are trying to frame up president trump for russia and everything. you look at it -- man, these folks, they said we're going to get an insurance policy against this man if he becomes president. this is a sham and it should be

apparently other when we take a dump in new york city, it stinks in alabama. >> folks in alabama aren't exactly thrilled over a new export from new york. they're calling it the "poop train." it's a big train carrying new york's human waste. >> this is no joke, for mo around. i thought i was actually hitting animals or dead animals with the lawnmower. >> trevor: yo, local news should have to pay black people royalties for their interviews, because they take every single story to the next level. did you hear what he just said? he said, "i thought i was hitting animals with my lawnmower, like i always do. you know how it is cutting grass. oh, goddamn it, cat! oh, goddamn it, skirl! what grass are you cutting. i have to say are, as someone who lives in new york i felt so bad to learn our poop is being exported down south. now every time i'm in the bathroom, i want to tweet alabama and say, "i just had indian. watch out, man. my bad." ( laughter ) and by the way, by the way, if that train is coming from new york, i bet you there's one confusedly tourist who accidentally got on it, you know.

it was there -- montgomery, alabama. it was there he was to win fame because in 1955 you took leadership of a bus boycott there. ended his policy of nonviolence over the year and one that strike with the federal desegregation order in alabama. his nonviolent campaign spread through the south and he became the leader of the southern christian leadership conference. the conference primarily of negro league asked her's. since the rise of radical knee grows,- radical knee king was considered a voice of moderation and white leaders for his policy of nonviolence of a hopeful antidote that preached riots and hatred. king was married and had two children, a daughter yolanda and a son martin luther the third. his wife was notified in atlanta and told only that he was shot in the shoulder to spare her any further concern and alarm and she flew back to memphis. whether she has arrived there are not, we have not been advised. we have just been advised that governor buford ellington has ordered 4000 national guard troops into the cit

december 5, 1955, in montgomery, alabama where it all began.t a meeting of thousands at the holt street baptist church, a meeting led by the reverend dr. king, to the meeting was to shape the montgomery west boycotts and this meeting came shortly after the arrest of rosa parks, and it came three months following the murder of 14-year-old emmett till. this was the beginning of the movement. to energize and rally black people around the boycott, dr. king stated with power and in front of a vibrant crowd the following. he says there comes a time when people get tired of being trampled over by the iron feet of oppression. there comes a time, my friends, when people get tired of being plunged across the abyss of humiliation, experience the bleakness of nagging despair. there comes an time when people get tired of being pushed out of the glittering sunlight of life july and left standing among the piercing chill of an alpine november. there comes a time. my friends, we are in an alpine november. he then goes on to say it is not enough for us to talk

alabama. and then the court agreed with his position, agreed to reverse swain v. alabama. but then the justice wasn't satisfied with that. and he wrote a concurring opinion in which he said i agree with what the court is doing, but the court is not going far enough. it should get rid of preemptory challenges all together. it was that pushing of the envelope that brings a smile to my face and makes me think of just that's the justice thurgood marshall that i revere. >> since you mentioned two sorts of opinions, i'll mention one other. it's not just one opinion. it's a series. so justice marshall came to the conclusion that capital punishment is in all circumstances in violation of constitutional standards. so he dissented in all capital punishment cases in which somebody was sentenced to death. and that stand, too, is a stand that makes me salute him. >> randy, let me ask you to elaborate about that, because justice marshall and justice brennan reiterated that dissent, just as you said, in every case that came along. as opposed to a view that once something is settled and y

but this story is about a new monument going up in montgomery, alabama.documents the lynchings of thousands of african american men, women, and children during a 70-year period following the civil war. the project is being led by criminal defense attorney bryan stevenson, who is determined to shed light on a dark period in our past that most people would rather forget. it's a shocking and disturbing reality that lynchings were not isolated murders committed only by men in white hoods in the middle of the night. often, they were public crimes, witnessed-- even celebrated-- by thousands of people. stevenson believes, if we want to heal racial divisions, we must educate americans, of every color and creed. these cotton fields in southern alabama are quiet now, but in 1937, a brutal murder took place here: the lynching of wes johnson. last january, some of johnson's descendants came here, in what has become a ritual taking place at lynching sites across the country, organized by civil rights attorney bryan stevenson. >> bryan stevenson: something happened her

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