it's not just alex jones. let's let lie to ourselves.ut i wonder if the republican office holders who are standing by and allowing this stuff to go completely unchallenged understand that they are not going to get re-elected if you don't have freedom of speech in this country. it will be impossible for them to win the next election. do they get that? >> they don't get that. in fact, they are complicit in it. their silence makes them complicit in it, tucker. the social media companies are banking on the weak spying republican politician -- week-spine republican politics standing by as they pick off the weak member of the herd. that is all this is. clip off the weak member of the herd and surround it while they get ready to eat us all. >> tucker: that is exactly -- what will it take -- what is 2020 going to look like if people are not allowed to express views that mark zuckerberg doesn't agree with? seriously. >> it's going to take politicians losing their job. frankly it should media people losing their job. what we need is a media outcry

media giant appears to point fingers at those who have gender hit, including milo yiannopoulos, alex jones, and jones' and for his website. on the far left, the band includes the anti-semitic louis farrakhan, who some believe was put in so facebook could appear balanced, especially since conservatives have long criticized the social media giant for unfairly censoring conservative speech. farrakhan's band has generated a significant amount of pushback. watch. >> so facebook and instagram just band minister louis farrakhan. i want to know for what?

he even gave an interview to alex jones back on the campaign trail. trump went on a twitter spree saying, it's so great to watch this while sharing a video from info wars. he repeatedly retweeted paula joseph watson, one of the info war figures banned by facebook. he retweet the a strange video about islam. this is troubling stuff, a lot of it is troubling stuff. at the same time the president is decrying facebook's action. facebook decided to block six users as well as info wars as an organization. the high-profile names include nation of islam leader louis farrakhan. six people, one organization banned and it's not just facebook. trump has been complaining about twitter, how twitter suspends or briefly puts accounts into a time-out period. he's complaining about james wood, the actor and right-wing actor star who is on a twitter time-out. look, the president is clearly trying to tap into conservative concerns about right-wing censorship. how real are those concerns, though? how legitimate is this and how is facebook deciding who should be banned in

alex jones, while banned from facebook, was still on instagram. we did some internal data on this.e biden, one of the top 20 posts on all of facebook and instagram came from alex jones' instagram account. that's gone. not there for him anymore. >> nbc's ben collins, thanks for the update. we appreciate it. >>> meanwhile, acting dhs secretary kevin mcaleenan was updating centers on the number of migrant children who still remain separated from their families. >> i'm asking you about previous separations and how many children are in the system that we're aware of that have been separated and we don't know what their current status is. i understand you to say that you don't know. >> i'm saying it's a very small number as provided to the court and they'll be updated -- >> what was the number in the court filings? >> it's around a dozen that are still remaining to identify a parent. >> that number may come as a surprise given the internal emails that nbc news obtained between officials at i.c.e. and hhs. they reveal that on the same day the trump administration said it would reunite tho

. >> the social media giant has banned names you will know like alex jones, lewis fair can and othersangerous individuals. the ban also applies to instagram which is owned by facebook. our senior media reporter oliver darcy joins us now. the reaction that jim and i had, the first reaction and not trying to be snarky but really like this could have happened a year or two ago. why now and what does it actually mean? >> you remember even a year ago facebook was tweeting at reporters saying that they were defending their position not to remove alex jones when facebook came under scrutiny for allowing him to have a facebook page. this is remarkable this 180, now they are banning these users, calling them dangerous and it's hard to imagine two years ago that facebook would do this. if books is saying that they have a lengthy process for validating a dangerous user or dangerous organization and that they follow this process. they look at things as whether this person is identified as part of a hate group, whether they have posted content that violates the hate speech policies. so they took s

emily: twitter has also banned alex jones.ks that are also banned on twitter in general? >> some of them are. those happened a while back and they were a big deal at the time and you kind of -- i don't want to say forget, but you do. you kind of just forget they are no longer allowed. i wonder and i believe the same thing will happen here. emily: as i understand it, it is not just what they say on facebook. if they say something on youtube or at a rally, that could also facebook's decision. >> it puts facebook in a decision where suddenly it will be following everybody around every day and finding out what they do in their personal life. it is interesting is they categorize these in the dangerous person category in the same category a terrorist organization might be in. if you are in a terrorist organization promoting violence off-line you could be removed from facebook in the same way that these folks are promoting violence off-line and can also be removed. emily: eu will be back a lot. good to have you with us. -- you will b

alex jones, milo and others have been permanently banned from facebook but i'm still seeing a hamas page reading this right? it appears the phrase permanent band might have wiggle room considering that hours after being banned, alex jones was again live streaming on facebook. monitoring and removing people is tough because it is so easy to pop up the new page and policing the site is a giant game of wack a mole. shannon: after a made a protest a brawl broke out between far left antifa members in portland showing a woman being knocked unconscious when journalists claim to have been pepper sprayed. no arrests were made. a depaul university professors defend the pro israel peace hero despite mounting pressure and protest from faculty and students. facing death threats avenatti garber jason hill tells tucker carlson he is not going to be silenced. a big win for religious freedom advocates on the right and warnings from the left. trump administration expanding protections for medical workers with faith-based objection to procedures like abortion setting off what seems almost certainly a brand

we're talking about alex jones and his site info wars. paul joseph watson, just to name a few. facebook also banned a leader of the nation of islam religious group, louis farrakhan. it is unclear if a single event led to this widespread ban against these individuals, but we can get a clue by listening to what mark zuckerberg had to say monday at the facebook developers c conference. here's a bit of what he had to say. >> we are focused on making sure our recommendations and discovery services are not highlighting groups where people are repeatedly sharing this information or harmful content and we are working hard to completely remove groups if they exist primarily to violate our policies or do things that are dangerous. >> as you mention, zuckerberg is facing criticism for not doing enough over the years to crack down on the issue, so maybe now he decided to act and act forcefully. >> what about the other side of the debate which is freedom of expression? a spoken be accused of suppressing conservative voices. >> we heard from congress, they were looking into if facebook had b

every conservative should be concerned about alex jones prison planet and others getting an obituary banned from facebook's platforms you. censorship is entering a new more hysterical face soon there will be no right wing activists or commentators left how about jack benny donald trump from twitter for violating the company's rules against hate and violence so much damage already done so many demented and delusional followers have been radicalized and many people ate it by cause phase back they're reacting to. election results like the brits if they like the election of donald trump and it would appear that they still as a company that they want to put themselves on the side of the debate they need to be regulated as such as a as a political actor in the debate rather than a platform for three debate which i think it's now very clear they are not facebook a very clearly putting themselves on one side of the political debate it is absolutely it could tell them to free speech because they're saying these individuals are dangerous well many people like myself see them as perfectly reaso

there was a rather bizarre situation earlier when alex jones was rather bizarre situation earlier whenfacebook talking about his ban from facebook. and also other figures we saw, my low who you mentioned, he was able to go onto his facebook account, to his followers they should expect them to be banned and direct them to other places on the internet where he is sharing his thoughts and to work. facebook has been criticised for that, people suggesting they could have handled that aspect better, but of the reaction i have seen, people are looking at this as at least one step of many that facebook needs to combat hate speech across the network. just how much pressure is facebook and the other social media companies under right now and how much is that building? the pressure is building immensely. this is something that not just is building immensely. this is something that notjust effects facebook, it affects twitter as well and a big way, twitter already moves to banding some of these figures. that should banding some of these. i think one of the difficulties these companies have of cour

and organizations the ban also applies to facebook and instagram the people on the list include alex jones and his info wars page along with former breitbart news editor and office political activist laura lou murray and you tube or paul joseph watson their content allegedly violates facebook's new regulations. facebook has stressed it's always been individuals and organizations that promote or engage in violence and hate were guarded list of ideology but some of those banned by the social media giant claim the moves purely political. i was given no reason whatsoever for being banned by facebook or instagram this is punishment this is a political purge this has nothing to do with hate or violating terms of service yesterday not to call about how i was leavin in the still gulag on holocaust remembrance day and today even though i am a zionist and have dedicated my life to competent jew hatred these nazis in silicon valley ban me facebook's action has sparked a censorship debate some saying the company should ban more people on others warn of repercussions on free speech every conservative s

hatred on the platforms and big names in the far right scene here we're talking about people like alex jones and his site info wars mightily in op was paul joseph watson among others facebook also banning the leader of the nation of islam louis farrakhan it's not clear really if there was a single events that led to this announcement but we can listen to what mark zuckerberg himself said on monday at the facebook developers con conference to get a bit of bit of a clue about what he might have been thinking here's what he said we're very focused on making sure that our recommendations and discovery surfaces aren't highlighting groups were people repeatedly sharing misinformation or harmful content and we're working hard to completely remove groups if they exist primarily to or to violate our policies or or do things that are dangerous as you mentioned like a very has been getting a lot of criticism on this issue for not doing enough so maybe now the company finally decided to act and act forcefully you know the social media companies have also been criticized including from the u.s. congress

while others warn of repercussions on free speech every conservative should be concerned about alex jones prison planet and others getting an arbitrary banned from facebook platforms you on ics to censorship is entering a new more hysterical face soon there will be no right wing activists or commentators left how about jack benny and donald trump from twitter for violating the company's rules against hate and violence so much damage chilled ready done so many demented and delusional followers have been radicalized in many people ate it by cause facebook ben harris quiney a chair of the british thing take the bow group thanks facebook is suppressing one side of the political debate and therefore the company should face regulation. they're reacting to the election results like the brits like the election of donald trump and it would appear that they feel there's a company that they want to put themselves on the side of the debate they need to be regulated as such as a as a political actor in the debate rather than a platform for three debate which i think it's now very clear they are not fa

violence and hatred their big names especially on the far right we're talking about people like alex jones and his outlets info wars my lawyer an op lists paul joseph watson among others facebook also banned the leader of the nation of islam louis farrakhan and it's not really clear if one single event led to this decision but we can get maybe a glimpse or a clue into what mark zuckerberg was thinking because he was speaking at facebook's developer conference on monday here's a bit of what he had to say. we're very focused on making sure that our recommendations and discovery surfaces aren't highlighting groups were people repeatedly sharing misinformation or harmful content and we're working hard to completely remove groups if they exist primarily to or to violate our policies or or do things that are dangerous as you mentioned it means like a bird has really been facing a lot of criticism on this issue maybe now deciding to act and really i think forcefully just completely banning these people from facebook but one has to wonder i mean where does freedom of speech play into this of cours

instagram and most of the people on this list of prominent media profiles including the likes of alex jones with his website info was. a user to my lawyer not political activist laura luma moreover anyone who promotes their content on social media faces a similar fates facebook underlines it's always bound individuals or organizations that promote or engage in violence and hate regardless of ideology but you tube of poor joseph watson who's also be bound by the social media giant claims that the move is purely political. i was given no reason whatsoever for being banned by facebook or instagram this is punishment this is a political purge this has nothing to do with hate all violating terms of service yesterday ever wrote an article about how i was leavin in a digital gulag on holocaust remembrance day and today even though i was honest and have dedicated my life to competent jew hatred these nazis in silicon valley ban me . facebook's actions sparked a censorship debate some saying the company should ban more people while this warn of repercussions on free speech every conservative should

this quote, "alex jones, milo, and others currently banned from facebook, but i am still seeing a hamas reading this right?" and it appears the phrase "permanent band" might have wiggle room considering hours after being banned, alex jones was again live streaming on facebook. monitoring and removing people is tough because it is so easy to pop up a new page, so policing this site becomes a giant game of whac-a-mole. shannon? >> shannon: all right, trace gallagher, thank you very much for the update. after made a protest, a brawl broke out between far left nt for members and a far right group in portland. a video on social media reportedly showing a woman being knocked on unconscious. one journalist claimed pepper sprayed. police then no arrests were made at may day event. meanwhile, depaul university professor defending a pro-israel piece he wrote despite mounting pressure and protest from the faculty and students. says he is facing death threats and has an armed guard now, but telling can tucker carlson he is not going to be silence pretty big win for religious freedom advocates on th

these accounts at the time they were actually in violation of the company's rules. >> not when alex jones was spreading conspiracy theories about the newtown shooting, for example. >>> this morning, tributes are pouring in for actor peter may hu mayhew who played chewbacca in the star wars films. >> it's not wise to upset a wookie. >> sir, nobody worries about upsetting a droid. >> that's because a droid don't pull people's arms out of their sockets when they lose. wookies are known to do that. >> mayhew died at his home in north texas. he was 74. he fit the bill for the wookie standing more than 7 feet tall. he played chewbacca in the original star wars series, and reprized the character in the force awakens. me consulted on the last jedi to guide his successor. >> before the release of the star wars film, the final chapter in the sky walkers saga. harrison ford says peter mayhew was a kind and gentleman, possessed of great dignity and noble character. mark hamill tweeted he was the gentlest of giants, a big man with a bigger heart who never failed to make me smile and a loyal friend who

lot of big names that you probably recognize from the far right media scene we're talking about alex jones and his site info wars milo you know up lists paul joseph watson just to name a few in facebook actually also banned the leader of the nation of islam religious group louis farrakhan it's not clear if there was a single event that led to this wide spreading ban against these individuals but we can get a clue by listening to what mark zuckerberg had to say on monday that's when the facebook developers conference the f eight took place and here's a bit of what he had to say we're very focused on making sure that our recommendations and discovery surfaces aren't highlighting groups were people repeatedly sharing misinformation or harmful content and we're working hard to completely remove groups if they exist primarily to or to violate our policies or or do things that are dangerous like as you mentioned soon as i covered facing a lot of criticism for just not doing enough over the years to crackdown on this issue so maybe now he decided to axe and act forcefully what about the other sid

dab you're going to need to learn what that point is and learn how to use it so as not my buddy alex jones we're seeing in all this because he's been the platform he's on gap i'll tell you that as a yes he is is he building an audience yes he is he's got i think 40000 followers on down so far right so he might have the last laugh yes i think you have biggest presence on dab now are. most of the people that have been banned to be honest you know people like alex people like paul joseph watson who was just banned from now on dab he's been on he's probably one of our biggest accounts actually and most of the people i know is that kills like twitter and these people afford to lose a call it just have watson who's got him over a 1000000 followers so here's the thing people don't understand that majority 80 percent of twitter's user base is international so they don't have to. say oh he's a big one i'm going to come over to gap that would be fantastic we'd love to have him wow that would be that would be a seminal moment for your company i would be a game changer all right that's cool man so i t

facebook is a huge flat form for info wars and, in fact, facebook took action against alex jones whonfo wars, they took action against alex jones earlier, but they did it under a different premise. they said he had violated certain policies they have in place. now what they're putting in place is more of a blanket ban. it says that he is a dangerous individual and facebook has a policy regarding dangerous individuals that include human traffickers and terrorist groups and also people who propagate hate speech so they're saying not only is alex jones the person banned but any conversation that is really glorifying the type of content that he and that info wars spread, that's going to be taken down too. so this is more of a blanket ban that makes it a lot harder for people to spread his message further, even if he, himself, is not on the platform. >> so it's interesting, issie, because facebook got a lot of criticism for not doing enough, having the door wide open and now it's also facing criticism for trying to partially close, you know the door. or do what it feels is some thing. >>

time that is regulations are either abolished complete or extend logically to the internet as well alex jones popularity thord after similar controversies in the path could all of us have the opposite effect of making the band figures actually more popular not less. it may well it may well but that's not the point the point is if facebook wants to be a political act then it needs to be regulates it as a political act or regulated at the same level as all other media outlets. i wish the best luck to figures like cole joseph watson and you not less that they become more popular as a result of this but that's not really the point in question the point in question is that facebook is clearly pushing itself as a political act and why is excusing the regulation that other media companies face . then harris quinn and chair of the group think tank thank you for joining us on the program today that's our global news update for this hour but don't forget you can always head to our website are to dot com for the details on all those stories and many more. it has nothing to do with the propaganda that th

but why do i care right now you have an incentive right now if you want to support creators like alex jones or laura loom or all these people that have been banned from pay pal from stray even from crypto companies you're going to have to figure out how to use the corner going to have to figure out how to send and how to buy it except. so there is now a sense of urgency hopefully that will continue to increase how do you get a hat like that. we're going to open up our hearts and i start pretty soon but do it. in the hat answered sure but thank you thanks for having me all right that's going to do it for this edition of the kaiser report with me max kaiser states ever want to thank our guests answer to our by the name of the company's gabsi a.b.a. dot com. very important check it out if i catch us on twitter it's guys report and so next time i'll. se the c. on his attorney one name for you get going on close the loop to. it which is. there's a rule if they give it to you they go to the guys who know people it's opposed to it's when the police yes that's good. that's the time to get. if you a

facebook owns instagram and someone like alex jones banned from facebook last year in the summer, butnstagram. and that had drawn a lot of scrutiny from people saying, hey, you guys banned him from one platform and why are you allowing him to have a presence on instagram. so now facebook is going to be banning alex jones and info wars from not only the main platform facebook but also from instagram. i checked in also to see if these people would be banned from what's app which is owned by facebook and a spokesperson could not say immediately because it is unclear whether some of the people have what's app accounts. >> but you'll continue to check on it. oliver darcy, good to see you. >> thank you. >>> this just into us, the gunman accused in the deadly shooting on unc campus in court moments ago. we'll tell you what happened as we're also hearing more stories of survival and heroism. >>> and plus in the 2020 race, new polls showing how the top democratic candidates would match up head to head against the president. the surprises including which one has the biggest lead. van jones is h

the banned included alex jones, mile low unapalous and louis farrakhan.d info wars itself. info wars is an actual fake news site, not that trump will ever attack it. instead, trump spent saturday morning retweet iing their vide and he even retweeted white nationalists. trump said this week he will monitor the censorship of american citizens on social media platforms while talking his own conspiracy theory that social media, the mainstream media and the democratic party are all in cahoots to muzzle the right. joining me is gabriel sherman, matt wright, sherene fischer and angelo carasoni. i'm going to you first, angelo. you were quoted in the washington post piece about the decision by facebook. you said the timing is never an accident when you have these massive catalyzing moments that are connected to real life consequences it puts pressure on facebook and others. why do you think they made this call? >> there's distinct civil rights push to recalibrate and think more broadly about what their rules are and how they go about enforcing them. separately the

he sounds like he's auditioning for a talk show with alex jones. >> they're demons.re freakin' interdimensional invaders. okay i'll just say it make fun of me all you want on cnn or wherever. but everyone already innately knows this these people are not freakin' humans, okay hillary clinton is a goddamn demon! [ light laughter ] 'scuse me takin the lord - it's not taking it in vain she is a demon damned to hell! 'scuse me. [ laughter ] >> seth: i like how he says excuse me at the end like he just sneezed for alex jones, an outburst like that is just involuntary "joe biden is a secret lizard who smells like sulfur!" gesundheit [ laughter and applause of course, throughout his conformation process, kavanaugh repeated all the usual lines about how he would supposedly respect roe v. wade as settled law. >> senator, i said that it's settled as a precedent of the supreme court. it has been reaffirmed many times over the past 45 years, as you know and most prominently, most importantly reaffirmed in planned parenthood versus casey in 1992. i understand the importance of the