i've committed to senator collins to offer alexander murray. and another bill that she and senator nelson from florida are offering to one of those year-end bills we'll be doing in the next couple of weeks. the president is committed to signing it. and we intend to keep our commitment. >> let's talk about those votes coming up. the government runs out of money this friday. a growing number of democrats saying they're not going to agree to a deal to keep the government open unless the children of undocumented immigrants are protected. are we headed for a shutdown? >> that's a ridiculous position. the president has given us until march to address the issue of undocumented children. who came into the country. a very legitimate case here. through no choice of their own, and are in a kind of difficult spot. but there's no emergency. the president has given us to march. to address it. i don't think the democrats would be smart to say they want to shut down the government. over a nonemergency we can address any time between now and march. that's an un

you cannot pass alexander murray after blowing acquainted hole in that.t powerful enough to fix. that you can even -- those are percentages pulled out of no where, can imagine stabilizes by 15%, individual market destabilizes by 40%. you have net worth individual market. this was not a trade that ever made any sense. a figure leave. you're doing something without having any idea of what you're actually doing. >> back to the point about the economic impact of the tax bill. essentially you have republican coalition now that depends largely on the votes of the blue collar, lower middle income whites. and trump is speaking to very powerfully on cultural basis, you have a tax bill that tilts even more towards the top 1% and bush tax cuts. quarter of the benefits, this is three fifths. the questions can they hold the blue collar voters. ram 7ing up relative to bush or reagan the culture antagonism, overt kind of racial element in the message. problem they're getting that is pushing away more people am the top. if you have to predict for 2018 which is bigger ris

i know there's been mention of the alexander murray plan. is there any possibility of seeing this done in 2018? >> it's certainly possible. mitch mcconnell has promised susan collins that legislation of which she is a co-author will get a shot on the floor at becoming law. it's harder to see if the house is able to pass this. the dynamics for 2018 in congress are going to be a little bit different because the math is different. this is how important a single senate seat is. republicans losing luther strange and democrats gain iing alabama, it's essentially a wash. so if the senate is going to get anything passed, it has to be done on a bipartisan basis. so in that sense, the president's tweet is correct. if and when anything is going to be done on health care legislatively, it's going to have to be done on a bipartisan basis. but the idea of kicking the original mandate out of obamacare and the rest of obamacare is simply going to fall apart really doesn't pass muster. you still have the medicaid expansion which covers millions and millions

but now because republicans are repealing the individual mandate in their tax bill, the alexander-murray bill won't have its intended effect. speaker ryan said that it won't pass the house unless hyde is attached to it. this is another last-minute thing. this is getting more difficult by the hour because of republican demands. we still need to pass disaster, supplemental funding to aid storm-stricken parts of our country, california, puerto rico, virgin islands, texas, louisiana, and florida. the disaster supplemental bill, while it has better funding levels, still does not treat puerto rico or the virgin islands fairly and does not provide for cost-sharing waivers and does not cover medicaid or drinking water infrastructure. it's a step in the right direction but not good enough and i reiterate my plea. texas and the texas delegation have constantly criticized funding -- government funding -- all of a sudden now that there's a disaster they want money. fine. these are people in our armed forces, working in our factoryings and offices and stores. they, like everybody else, like our ances

backed off passing the alexander murray deal, backed off daca, punted for a month. how is the government getting funded in the next 48 hours. >> probably a continuing resz resolutisolutio resolution. i don't know what that's going to look like. we cannot close down the government. nats not good for the american people or for our economy and frankly not good for the confidence people should have in congress. we need to get our job done. i see that this will be a continuing resolution -- >> clean? >> keep the government open. there may be a few things added in there, but i think this will be one that both the house and the senate will agree we need to keep the government open until we get back after the 1st of the year and need to deal with the big issues you mentioned. one of my frustrations here that we don't deal with things in a timely matter. wait until we're on a clifr af then make that decision. >> a month, three months? >> maybe a month we'll look at, and have to address the big issues when we come back. >> congresswoman diane black, appreciate it. a bunch of

he has said publicly and privately that he supports the alexander-murray legislation and he supportsthe the legislation supported by senator collins -- a republican -- and senator nelson -- a democrat. so that's one, a pretty big one. senator mcconnell, the republican majority leader, he supports it. he said that publicly and privately. he supports both of them. senator schumer, who is the democratic leader, said two or three weeks ago that every single democrat in the senate would vote for alexander-murray. and that it had 60 votes and senator mcconnell should put it on the floor as soon as possible and he thought it would pass with a lot of votes. the bill hasn't changed except in one way. it's gotten better from the point of view not just of democrats, but of republicans. the idea that senator collins and senator nelson have come up with, the idea of creating an invisible risk pool, or a reinsurance fund, or a stability fund to allow states to do that would permit those states to do what maine has done and what alaska has done and what minnesota is trying to do. and it's this: ala

could you support alexander murray on that? speaker ryan: i'm not going to comment. the senate did a good job of not commenting on our delivery of process while we were processing tax reform. i want to respect their process and not comment on their deliberations. all of these issues and there are a number of other questions about the amendments, those things the senate has to work out. i'm not going to comment on any of their deliberations right now. reporter: more lewd social media messages came from joe barton and constituents said he messaged lewd messages over facebook. speaker ryan: today? i have to get back to you. reporter: have you spoken with mr. barton? and do you think he should re-sign? or face any reprimand? speaker ryan: i have spoken with him and will continue speaking with him. reporter: in the conference committee, how are the differences going to be worked out and any chance there will be a conference committee? and my question is, despite all of the things in your tax bill and what is emerging in the senate tax bill, the economy and the taxpayers.

light of the promises the president and mitch mcconnell made and susan collins, do you think the alexander-murray bill, do you think it should pass? the speaker: i won't get into the conversations they had because i want part of those conversations. i am not deeply familiar with those conversations only to say health care is broken. we are going to have to fix health care. she's put some very productive, constructive solutions on the table. our members are looking at the same kinds of solutions and we think the individual mandate, which is something the senate repealed, should be repealed. in doing that that will invite a new conversation about how we fix health care and i think that's all productive. reporter: do you think it's too late to do an omnibus at any point this year? the speaker: yes. the appropriators could not literally write one. if we tried to tell the appropriators on the 7th, write staff would heir do it. it's tough to ask the appropriators at this short game. i was hoping we could get this agreement done a while ago. the democratic leaders walked away from the table and when the

our bill, the alexander-murray bill, was designed to shore up the existing health care system and deal with the problems that president trump and republicans already created, not to solve the new problems in this awful republican tax bill. and just yesterday the nonpartisan congressional budget office confirmed that and here's what they said will happen regardless of whether alexander-murray becomes law as well. premiums will go up 10% each year. 13 million people will lose coverage. and markets will be even more unstable which experts have said will cause some of our communities to lose their coverage options. now, mr. president, there's been some discussion of whether passing something called reinsurance, which is a program designed to help with the cost of enrolling the sickest patients might mitigate the serious damage that this republican tax bill would do. the answer is no there as well. this policy is good policy on its own, but it will not stop the premium increases. it will not stop the coverage losses. and the chaos that this republican tax bill will cause. mr. president, rep

alexander-murray was not designed for a system where the mandate was removed. it doesn't work anymore. it's an empty promise whether it's in a bill or out of a ill. reporter: they are talking about correction bill on the extenders. you warned that there may be loopholes in here hemorrhaging revenue. how much do democrats engage on subsequent -- senator schumer: we think this bill is so bad it's very hard to fix in small little tweaks. we'll see what they propose, but our view -- we're going to hammer away at this. this is going to be an issue for us all year. this is not just forgotten. the fact -- they say once people learn of what is in this bill they'll be for it. the koch brothers have spent tens of millions of brothers -- dollars trying to persuade people this is a good bill, and majority of americans, by most polls, think it's a bad bill and the reason is very simple. the suspicions of the american people that the republican party is helping the wealthy and the powerful corporations and not the middle class has been confirmed in this ill. ms. pelosi: just

is he referring to the alexander murray on bill on insurance markets?that going to be the backbone of a new package? >> yeah, i think it's a nod to moderate republicans like susan collins who have been calling for this kind of bipartisan approach for the past year, and so far has not really gotten anywhere. susan collins in return for her vote for the big tax cut law got a commitment from mitch mcconnell to pursue this alexander murray package, as well as the nelson bill, which would have more reinsurance, in an effort to have rates come down. now that you have the individual mandate going away, another thing that's going to cause a lot of upward pressure on premiums for health insurance, and so something needs to happen. and the question is whether they're going to pursue this bipartisan package in the first part of the year, fulfill the commitment to susan collins, and maybe get some additional things you can add to it, to get some democrats on board, or are you going to see another return to the repeal efforts that failed repeatedly last year. and mi

the alexander murray, i don't think -- i don't know, i haven't seen the conference report. but alexander murray, which tries to stabilize the availability of health care at a reasonable price to the american people, i don't think that's in the tax bill, as i understand it. v.a. choice funding i think is in the c.r. i haven't seen exactly what it says. opioids funding, i have a thing in my district, in every district in america opioids is a critical crisis. there's no funding in c.r. as i understand for that. a fire grants program for our emergency responders. no money for that. perkins loans, nothing for that. the debt limit is going to come later. national flood insurance program, nothing for that, as i understand it. medicare and other health extenders. 702 of fisa, to keep america secure and strong and safe. as i understand it none of that's being dealt with. so the reason we voted against the last c.r. is because we're tired of kicking things down the road. we're tired of kicking the can down the road. we want to get to agreement on a bipartisan basis to pass legislatio

passing the alexander-murray bipartisan bill would save us money. we have the actual accounting to show it. allowing for less expensive drugs from other countries would save money for consumers. it's pretty easy to understand. it's called capitalism. it creates competition. and if our own american drug companies of which we are proud that they've developed life-saving cures, they are important employers in our country, but if they refuse to bring down those prices and have a monopoly on the market, we should be bringing in competition. there's two ways you could do it. one is generic and that is making it easier to produce generic drugs and also stopping big pharma companies paying off their competition from keeping their competitive products off the market and the other is simply allowing drugs from less expensive places but safe places like canada. and that is a bill that i have put forward with senator mccain but also senator bernie sanders and i have worked on this as well as well as many others. these are commonsense ideas, yet we cannot even m

alexander murray was not designed for a system where the mandate was removed. so, it does not work anymore. it is an empty promise, whether it is in a bill or out of a bill. >> we have been talking about the bill, corrections and extensions. engage onocrats 2018? sen. schumer: well, again, we think this bill is so bad that it's hard to fix in small,little tweaks. we will see what they propose, but we will hammer away at this. this is going to be an issue for us all year. they say, oh, once people learn coches in this bill, the brothers have already spent tens of millions of dollars trying to persuade people it is a good bill and the majority of americans think it is a bad bill. the reason is very simple. the suspicions of the american people, that the republican party is helping the wealthy and the powerful corporations and not the middle class, they have been confirmed in this bill. rep. pelosi: just to say, they did a massive bill that has trillions of dollars of impact on the economy within a single hearing with only the person from the joint tax committee r

commitments on other pieces of legislation to stabilize the insurance market, most notably the alexander murray bill that make sure cost-sharing production -- payments are made to insurance companies who have ofen a thicker group patients to keep their costs and premiums down. she has secured commitments on that front that will be added to some must have legislation before the end of the year, the government funding bill that will have to get done next month to prevent a shutdown. she seems positive on that front. vonnie: ramifications or reverberations around capitol hill about what we just learned about michael flynn? >> a number of statements coming in from democrats who are shocked and want more answers. flynn is the second person in the president's orbit to plead guilty as part of the russia investigations. how hard does it go and why are so many people in the president orbit lying to the fbi? who are the bigger fish? those are questions people are asking. shery: our national political resort -- correspondent on capitol hill. vonnie: michael flynn has agreed to cooperate with prosecutors i

yesterday the president said he supported the alexander murray agreement becoming law but into the year. our agreement has so much in it that appeals to so many democrats and independents. it's hard to imagine our not passing something that prevents a 25% increase in premiums by 2020 and offers states electability to further lower rates. the democratic leader called it a good compromise and said it has the support of all 48 democrats. the chairman of the democratic national committee tweeted last , alexander murray has widespread bipartisan support. as secretary, there are many other steps you can take to lower premiums and stabilize the market. the opioid crisis that is ravaging this country is a priority for the president and every member of this committee. we are having estate perspective on opioid crisis tomorrow. drug overdose deaths in tennessee went up by 12% from 2016.o it dramatically increase 74% in 2015 to -- pledged tos streamline programs and provide funding to states and communities on the frontline of this crisis, imprudent -- and putting preventing the comprehensive addi

and i'm proud toto be one of the 22 cosponsors of the bipartisan alexander-murray bill. the second is a bipartisan bill that introduced with my friend andle colleague, senator bill nelson. it would protect people with pre-existing conditions while lowering the cost of health insurance through the use of high-risk pool. this plan will provide $5 billion annually for two years in seed money for states to establish invisible high risk pools, or traditional reinsurance programs. and, madam president, we don't have to guess about the impact. i'm going to quote some actuarial studies shortly, but the fact is we know from experience in states like maine and alaska at high risk pools can help to lower premiums substantially by an average of 20%. analyses show that enactment of these two bills together will reduce the cost of health insurance, thus making it more affordable. according to analysis by experts at oliver wyman, the passage of these bills will more than offset the premium increases caused by the repeal of the individual mandate. in fact, oliver wyman suggests in its e

there still is some interest in the alexander murray bill, which is the bill senator lamar alexander and patty murray, republican and democrat, have been working on. but there is -- waning support for the bill, at least among health policy experts who are not really sure that, that bill now that the tax bill has been passed, eliminating the individual mandate, would be helpful. it might do more harm than good. and whether or not the republicans have an appetite, really, for going deeper into or trying once again to change health care once again. i'm just not sure it will have much appetite to do that. >> you look at this law now on the books. the individual mandate gone as result of this tax package, and the president characterizing the whole thing as dead or dying. what do you make of that characterization? >> well, there's no doubt that the law is going to be changing the affordable care act, but in many ways the law will stay on the books, and a lot of the good aspects of the law that i certainly was supportive of are remaining in effect. the law requires insurers to take all cover

we talked about daca, alexander murray, health care hiccup in the middle of all this as well.huts down friday night? >> based on my reporting, and that's really talking to a lot of different senators and people in the house, i don't think we're going to get to a government shutdown. democrats are very weary of being blamed for the government shutdown. when you talk about issues like daca and c.h.i.p., children's health care. eeshler essentially democrats are saying we could support a short-term spending bill. at the end of the day we're going to have to come back in january and deal with these issues. the base will not like it. people are getting arrested, protesting just on the issue of daca. their base is upset that democrat also vote for a short-term spending bill. when it comes down to it, people don't want to shut down the government in the middle of the holidays and republicans are saying we can pass this short-term spending bill and get into the bigger spending bill next year. >> always good to have you, yamiche. joe? >> i want tocircle back to the president's speech on

there is a lot of work that needs to be done on what looks like alexander murray. will be debated at the time. likevet other senators lisa murkowski, talk about the fact she does not think an individual mandate makes sense. the federal government should force people to force products. that is not the job of the federal government. it will be exciting to see the mandate taken out. sherry: it sounds like you are not convinced that the premises susan collins got will come through. michael: -- promises susan collins got will come through. michael: i wasn't in the room. we will take it up and look at it. i am sure susan collins will be thinking about that. let's talk about state and local taxes. you very much believe they should be done away with altogether. at the same time, we talked to gary cohn on friday and he had a different view. here is what he had to say. >> the house is concerned about so members -- salt members. increases here. what they are trying to do is say, look, maybe we should expand at the $10,000 deduction not to just include state taxes, but income

they have lamar alexander and patty murray working on a bipartisan bill. the white house says they would like to see action on both of those. i think if they offer sweeteners to the democrats, perhaps they can get some cooperation on some of these areas, not the whole thing, the democrats have no reason to rescue them. what the democrats believe and with good reason, i think, is that the republicans starting with the president have been trying to sabotage the health care program. been trying to sabotage obamacare. that's why they put that poison pill in about ending mandates in the tax reform bill. they slipped it in there, the public didn't really notice what was going on. but the democrats don't want to rescue the republicans right now. >> you talk about ending the mandate. david chalian, that's a big part of obamacare. and look, this past year, 8.8 million people signed up, enrolled in obamacare, and now they took out individual mandate. so what's going to happen next? what's going to happen to health care? >> right. >> if they can't work together in th

i don't understand why they couldn't attach something like the alexander murray bill to it. we know 13% of those people who need understand get understand. so that premiums don't rise. kennedy: why should the government force them to get understand? >> that wasn't what i said. what i said is if you are going to get rid of the individual mandate, attach the other bill that keeps the exchanges and premiums. when you do something that grand and that large, it should be an interim process. i think if they took that as a starting point and would have continued to make changes continually i think we would be better off today. but i think we are bert off with than without it. kennedy: i would disagree especially for people paying double the premiums. they have higher deductibles. you have a third of counties in the country down to one choice. >> but i can tell you how many people are paying less and how many people are with insurance who wouldn't have. kennedy: we are talking about people not on medicaid and don't get subjects does and they have to provide their own understand. if

the one thing we are still waiting on is the alexander murray health care stabilization plan.his was her condition for saying you can repeal the individual mandate but i want there to be some sort of fixed to obamacare the next couple years. that would be in the spending bill set to come up next week. it would fund the government for several more weeks and it's not clear if alexander three -- murray will be in there. folks are not very happy with that plan. julia: what about the senator that actually voted no, senator bob corker? he was concerned about the deficit. i don't see anything in the details to give him a greater degree of calm. >> the leadership has sort of written him off. it's just assumed he's going to be a no. they haven't done anything to address his concerns and with some of the changes the bill is more expensive and they are having to look for other offsets. nothing nearly as great as corker would want. julia: thank you, laura davidson. still ahead, disney's fox hunt comes to an end with a $52 billion deal. scott galloway joins us coming up to survey the ever-

she agreed on the condition they would vote on an alexander murray plan that would stabilize health insurancehouse is not really on board with this idea. this could fall apart and it would cost her votes. vonnie: if either the senators don't get what they want, will they vote no? do they really want to go against the party on this? laura: they are withholding your final decision. they say we want to see the final bill, everything in totality. if both were to say no, it is likely bob corker of tennessee could also be a no. he's concerned about deficit issues that have not been addressed. if all three standard ground, the bill could fail. that is unlikely at this point but we will see how negotiations over the next 24 hours ago. we expect to see a plan and get the conference committee sign off on the final report, which can't be amended after that. vonnie: laura davidson, thank you. for more let's bring in jim served as white house deputy chief of staff under president obama and campaign manager for obama's 2012 reelection. among lots of other work is done in europe and here in the united they.

and led by murray and alexander gets shoved to the side. joining me now is garrett haake in west palm beach, florida, where it remains 77 degrees. garrett, what's going on with this? why is the president choosing to tweet about these things this morning? >> reporter: i don't want to rub it in how warm and sunny it is out here, ali. look. the president talking about this health care plan, there's not an appetite on capitol hill to readdress health care except in the way you mentioned. the alexander/murray stabilization was promised, a vote was promised to susan collins. that's going to happen some time in the early spring. without the mandate that was repealed in the tax bill could get stronger. it's just not true to say that obamacare is falling apart. you had 9 million people sign up in the latest open enrollment. millions are signed up on the medicaid expansion part of it. and the protections that were laid out for people with pre-existing conditions, that allow people up to 26 to stay on their parents' health care, all of that is still t

the alexander murray, i don't think -- i don't know, i haven't seen the conference report. but alexander murray, which tries to stabilize the availability of health care at a reasonable price to the american people, i don't think that's in the tax bill, as i understand it. v.a. choice funding i think is in the c.r. i haven't seen exactly what it says. opioids funding, i have a thing in my district, in every district in america opioids is a critical crisis. there's no funding in c.r. as i understand for that. a fire grants program for our emergency responders. no money for that. perkins loans, nothing for that. the debt limit is going to come later. national flood insurance program, nothing for that, as i understand it. medicare and other health extenders. 702 of fisa, to keep america secure and strong and safe. as i understand it none of that's being dealt with. so the reason we voted against the last c.r. is because we're tired of kicking things down the road. we're tired of kicking the can down the road. we want to get to agreement on a bipartisan basis to pass legislatio

finish by thinking senator alexander murray and murphy for calling, convening and participating in this and thank you for an excellent testimony. of the hearing record will remain open for 10 days and members may cement additional information for the record within that time if they like. thank you for being here today. the committee is adjourned. >> jefferson probably knew more about more things than any single man in north america and i include franklin in that who would be his only rival and everyone was impressed by jefferson extent of his knowledge. adams was smart but did not have the breadth, but had depth in history and law that jefferson didn't have. not because jefferson couldn't, he just wasn't as interested in the law. >> sunday on c-span to q&a professor and historian courted word on his book about the relationship in different political views of john adams and thomas jefferson. >> adams was a realist who did not believe all men are created equal. he did not believe in american exceptionalism. we americans are no better, no different than other nations. i think that is what

clearly we have already had an agreement regarding the subsidies aspect of obamacare with alexander murrayyomurray. >> martha: do yomurraymarch shes promised on tax reform vote. i don't think they would make that promise unless they intended on bringing up for a vote. censd cend you bring up something very important. i want to bring katie into this. people want more choices. >> lisa: right. >> kennedy: republicans have failed on merck. is there a way to get together with democrats and stabilize the markets and give people what they deserve. >> katie: mitch mcconnell talking about the new agenda starting in 2018. he doesn't have an interest of making this a priority. he wants to move on to other things like dodd frank reform. he has said that on the record. i'm not confident they are going to bring it up. it's important to democrats touting enrollment numbers when the government forces to you buy something or be fined, of course more people are going to sign up for something because they are required by law to do so or they are punished by the irs. when it comes to options, rural areas have

there was discussion of trying to get the alexander murray bill attached to the year-end spending measurend pass that before the end of the year, but it's looking like house republicans are not interested in doing that. sm that's something that they said should get pushed to next year. a few senate republicans are not going to be happy about that. but when it comes to driving them to the table, democrats have said for a year, we're trying to work on trying to fix issues with obamacare, and republicans have been going it alone. i think you'll see democrats saying, looking now is the time for you guys to really include us in these discussions. >> jut st as a reminder to peop, this tax, under $1.5 trillion in the deficit over the next ten years. laura barron-lopez, thank you. >>> if an election was held today, donald trump would likely lose to a democratic candidate. that's a poll of nbc news. a watchup said trump would lose by 16 points. according to a quinnipiac university poll, the poll found 6 in 10 voters believe that trump does not care about average americans. is not honest. does not

with the passage of alexander murray, there are negotiations happening and that may make it work andve to temporarily increase the cost and share and reductions and bring them back and that's how the individual mandate is going to stabilize the marketplace. you can't do one without the other right now. >> to be determined then. temporarily reviefing the cost-sharing reductions to subsidies? >> senator colins opposed to mandate. this is how we are getting forward progress, a lot of people are being upset and tweak a little bit but it's progress. >> progress, you know, what, progress is good. allowing low-income people to disburg -- >> people being able to deduct medical expenses and people with chronic illness that is have high amount of medical cost that is do depend on these cost reductions especially those elderly population and long-term care facilities, the senate bill kept that, they actually made it better for lower-income population. they brought it down from 10% threshold to 7.5. this is going to help a lot of low--income and middle class people. fiscal responsible way for pe

some of these senators want to include the alexander murray proposal in the spending bill. this is snag would pay for the obamacare subsidies and when health care in and of itself was an issue and the fact that they want to bring this back is driving them crazy and health care was probably an issue that republicans now feel like they never should have tried to attempt first in the first place. now that this is coming up again, this could be another political headache. >> i agree health care is a fascinating things -- what is that game that keeps popping back up? >> whack a mole? >> whack a mole. the dreamers and daca is another big question. all of the lawmakers and the letter that a bunch of republicans signed on to in the house, what they are facing is a march expiration of the daca program. do they really want to come back and months before mid-term election have to face a question of allowing all these folks to be deported or be threatened with deportation. by not doing anything now, the question is is it easier to try to do something now and it doesn't look like it fit

some experts say the benefit of the alexander/murray bill are largery wiped out by the elimination of the mandate. the original estimations about how that would help shore up the health care markets, anticipated the individual mandate would still be in place. so once we get some new scoring on that, we'll see how it is. but if it's not a major fix it will be tough to see how that sails through. >> garrett haake, a lot on lawmakers' plates when they get back to washington. that extraordinary piece on saturday about a meeting that took place in june of this year centering on immigration. one line stood out to me in particular, besides the inflammatory lines the newspaper reported. during the transition, president trump's aides drafted an executive order to end the program known as deferred action for childhood arrivals but it was held back as the president struggled with conflicted feelings on those known as d.r.e.a.m.ers. do you have a sense of what the white house will be pushing for, if anything, when it comes to daca in the new year? >> those feelings do persist. the president ultim

senator lamar alexander, patty murray. scavino, doug jones, robert mueller. >> and this happened recently, but i think the coordinated effort led by kirsten gillibrand to push al franken out after a series of groping and forcible kissing allegations, to force him to resign, is very meaningful. this was a coordinated effort. you know, this is enough. we've seen this in the media, hollywood, entertainment. in politics, we've tolerated it too long. we're not going to tolerate it anymore. i think important for her, gillibrand, who had a good year, but more broadly. >> what's the chance that over time that may have the democrats move on franken, the right principle, wrong process? >> i think it is uniquely possible that is the case. i think what they were trying to do -- i feel strongly what they were trying to do is clear the decks in expectation of senator roy moore. moore winning, and they could say we got rid of the allegations here on our side, you didn't. i think it's possible. i don't know. i put people like lamar alexan

guest: majority leader mitch senator susanised collins that he would include alexander murray and another bipartisan bill, imn a must-pass end of the year bill, and now we only have the cr on friday. that was a way of assuring her that this would not have been devastating impact on health insurance markets that independent analysts said that it would. host: so that is included in the cr? is not.o, it it has been much discussed in washington, whether or not susan rolled andot whether mitch mcconnell can deliver on that. and there's another chamber in the house that has no interest in anything from the obamacare market. host: we have a call from our nation's capital on the independent line. you are on the air. to comment oned the economic situation because no one has addressed what i the going on, which is the $800 billion giveaway to the rich. and now they are ready to double that. we going to have another financial collapse. it is not consistent with the neoliberal economics hearing. i think we really have to watch out for that. i wanted to comment on net neutrality. again, it gets down t

she has said that she needs alexander murray to pass.aret place and administration it even stronger. she has said that collins nelson needs to pass. this gives more money to make sure that people who are sick do not cause a big strain on the system. what we know is neither of these are really up for consideration. so it is hard to see how she's going to vote for it. under the current circumstances. it seems like people have on blinders and they're moving forward with taking away coverage from people. >> do you feel it is more important to get it done more than anything or does the alabama anxiety make some of these republicans more wobbly? >> for the life of me, i can't understand what they're up to. they haven't gotten anything done all year. the thing that they decided, after they lost in virginia, they lost in a red state like alabama. the one thing they'll do is take away people's health care and give tax cuts to the wealthy. let me tell you this. if people find out that the insurance premiums are going up on them because donald trum

they are going to work on the alexander-murray provisions. that will be something they revisit when they get back in january. >> how many of us would buy car insurance if it wasn't a law? the mandate was a republican idea. it came from mitt romney in massachusetts. it is is personal responsibility. yet more people into the poll. can we play sound from the president talking about this at the cabinet meeting. let's listen to president trump. >> the individual mandate is being repealed. that means obamacare is being repealed. because they get their money from the individual mandate. so the individual mandate is being repealed. so in this bill, not only do we have massive tax cuts and tax reform, we have essentially repealed obamacare. and we'll come up with something that will be much better. >> i was hoping that was the bite where he said we didn't tell. we told the people to keep it from the press. >> right. >> because we didn't want to scare anybody with the idea of the obamacare. david, didn't he hide the ball on this? were republicans able

i got a commitment that we're going to pass two bills including the alexander murray bill and one thatt the individual mandate repeal by lowering premiums. and i also got an ironclad commitment that we're not going to see cuts in the medicaid/medicare program as a result of this bill. >> all right. we will be watching that commitment that was made to you. i'm curious to see if they keep their deal with you, senator collins. thanks for coming on. i'm out of time. i appreciate you coming on and sharing your views. >> thank you, chuck. >>> all right. president trump has controversially denied that russia interfered with the 2016 election, an issue that the lead democrat on the senate intel committee mark warner took issue with on friday. >> we see senior intelligence officials appointed by this president acknowledging the massive russian intervention. we've seen the social media companies that at first resisted but now acknowledge massive russian intervention. frankly, virtually every one of my republican colleagues acknowledges russian intervention. the one individual that still seems to

majority leader mitch mcconnell that he will work to pass two pieces of legislation, one the alexander murray to stabilize health insurance marketplaces, and then the second is a bill that she co-sponsored with a democrat, bill nelson, of florida, that's intended to address high risk pools of individuals senator susan collins of maine now throwing her weight behind the tax reform bill. back over to you, kelly. >> that's pretty cig kampsignif, ylan, a.m. ylan we spoke to strategstrategis, ae ago, they hope they get johnson, collins, flake, that they get those votes without having to make quite as many changes to the tax cut, at least, right >> reporter: that's right. yesterday it was all about trying to find a fix that would appease the deficit hawks like senator bob corker today, it was all about what can they do to not have to make any concessions to them. and instead of trying to limit the size of the bill, in fact, they found several ways to increase the tax breaks, particularly for passthrough businesses so those are some of the negotiations that have been going on here. and now they have

i've got a commitment that we're going to pass two bills including the alexander murray bill, one that i authored, to help offset the individual mandate repeal by lowering premiums. and i got an ironclad commitment we're not going to see cuts in the medicaid/medicare program as a as a result of this bill. >> bottom line, all that condensed, it is a delicate process. >> absolutely. that's why the president wants roy moore in the senate because he got the vote with 51 and he can't afford to lose more. >> jonathan and sarah, hang out longer, please. coming up, we want to talk about the major show of force from the u.s. and south korea heading off the increasingly dangerous threat from north korea. why one u.s. leader says time is running out. the morning walk was so peaceful. until... it... wasn't. don't let type 2 diabetes get between you and your heart. even if you reach your a1c goal you are still at risk for heart attack or stroke. talk to your health care provider today about diabetic heart disease. and find out more at heartoftype2.com. your heart and type 2 diabetes. make the conne