retired colonel alexander vindman. thank you for your time. prince william and his brother harry on near their late mother yesterday on what would've been diana's 61st birthday. -- it is an accolade given to young people for the social or humanitarian work. prince william writing quote you truly are the personification of my mother's legacy and i know she would be so proud of you wall and quote. prince harry releasing this video message. >> and now as a husband and a parent, my mother's voices even stronger in my life. all of you have kept her voice alive by showing the world how each small action helps. >> coming up and nbc news investigation, the reversal of roe v. wade is putting a new focus on crisis pregnancy centers that will now outnumber abortion clinics ex positionally. how helpful is a counseling that provide? >> a female staffer applause replied abortions can cause cancer and infertility. she's then played a video and said they also calls meltable illness. all of that categorically false. illness. all of that categoricall false. a t

army lieutenant colonel alexander vindman and colonel yev vindman. both were born in ukraine. and elsewhere demand a stronger response from the biden administration. they join us now. gentlemen, great to have you with us. i think before we dig into what you're talking about in this opinion video about the refugee crisis in ukraine, it is important to take a step back and remind people. colonel vindman, alexander vindman, i'll start with you. of your own story, how you came to this country, what drove you out of the soviet union, the ukraine of today, and why this issue of refugees is so important to you. >> yeah, we came here as this-year-ol 4-year-olds because our father believed in the american dream and a promise of america with unlimited opportunities. the video itself is a little bit of a representation of where we are today in 2022, an american society where there is still a huge amount of promise that i believe in deeply, but also with deep challenges, including what we've been talking about this morning with regards to gun violence. kind of a nihilistic, death cult bei

i can't think of anybody, think back to michael cohen, to all the witnesses in ukraine, alexander vindmanin brother, maria von of itch, all through right now. even the other day he lashed out in public against cassidy hutchinson. he doesn't almost in realtime. it was remarkably foolish, horrible judgment to reach out to anybody who might have been a witness. i have no doubt if i had to guess, not of the world of guessing here, but he probably had intent to at least try and persuade that person, maybe not outright intimidate them. that said, if all we have is a phone call that is not answered and not returned, just a miss connection, that is not going to be witness tampering. people need to cool that a little bit. >> i attempted witness tampering, just a phone call. >> on this front though, you've got people, look what happened to hutchinson. starting out, she had a lawyer that was arranged by them, and i get paid for them to. so if your witness and you, get called to do this thing, and somebody is getting to your lawyer and taking care of all that for you, i mean, you're in the business,

i can't think of anybody, think back to michael cohen, to all the witnesses in ukraine, alexander vindman, his twin brother. on through right now. even if the other day, he lashed out in public against cassidy hutchinson. he does it in realtime. it was remarkably foolish, horrible judgment to reach out to anybody who might have been a witness. i have no doubt if we had to guess. not in the world of guessing. he probably had intent to at least try to persuade that person, maybe not out right intimidate them. if all we have as a phone call that was not answered, and not returned, just a missed connection, that's not going to be witness tampering. people need to cool down [laughs] >> on this front. >> attempted witness tampering! >> you know -- you don't have enough proof. >> on this front, you have people, look what happened to hutchinson. starting out, she had a lawyer that was arranged by them. and i guess paid for by them to. so if you are a witness, and you get call to do this thing. and someone is getting into your lawyer and taking care of that. i mean, you know, you are in the busine

now she doesn't ever have to pay for another drink in washington again cassidy is like the alexander vindmansee her for at least a year and get a book deal. meanwhile if you are involved with president trump they will raid your home usually while you are in your underwear. put you in shackles and bankrupt your family. they don't need evidence. their goal is to scare you into submission. watch merrick garland last night on nbc flirt with arresting donald trump right before the next election. >> you said in no uncertain terms the other day that no one is above the law. that said, the indictment of a former president, perhaps candidate for president would arguably tear the country apart. is that your concern as you make your decision down the road here? >> look, we pursue without fear or favor. >> if donald trump were to become candidate again that would not change your schedules or how you move forward or don't move forward. >> i will say again that we will hold accountable anyone who was criminally responsible for attempting to interfere with the transfer legitimate lawful transfer from one a

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anyone recognized your last name, your last name is vindman, your husband's lieutenant colonel alexander vindman the wife of a member of the armed services, what's did you think when you saw that clip, that portion of the hearing on thursday and josh hawley? >> well, i'm in paris, we actually watched it early the next morning. we left. what's really comes to mind when i see that clip, jonathan, is, you know, my my doctor frankenstein, i guess you can't control the monster you created. this is it. you want to play with fire? but they don't know how to control it. he's a joke. you know, josh hawley woke up one day, looked himself in the mirror, and said, oh my goodness, you would make such an amazing president. that's the way he lives as life. it's not based on any principles, on, there is no, you can see by the things he says and does, there is nothing that grounds. nothing that, you know, that he goes to in points to and says, this is what i'm for. it's just whatever it is of the day. you know, comparing him to my husband, there is no comparison. comparing him to someone like liz cheney, who is,