>> yeah, it's really interesting, ali., we've seen the use of social media, which is twitter and facebook and messaging services in various revolutions in the middle east as a means of getting the message out, to get people together to protest against governments and things like that. but some people could say that could be a means of good. however, in this case, in this country, what we're seeing now is that there have been questions of, well, the use of blackberry messaging, twitter, and facebook sites for spreading the message of violence and that's what has got a lot of people concerned that yesterday, the special session of parliament, the british prime minister was asked about the potential of banning certain sites that would, or even potentially blocking the use of the blackberry messenger service, if it was inciting violence. this is what he had to say. >> free flow of information can be used for good, but it can also be used for ill. so we are working with the police, the intelligence services, and industry to loo

>> yes, good morning, ali.ts in europe begin the first few hours of trading, it would seem the main indices have been void by wall street's positive finish. here in the asia pacific is was a different story, most markets finishing down. the hong kong hang seng closed down 0.5 the s&p asx 200 also down. more so in korea, seoul's kospi finished down 2.3%. the nikkei advanced for the first time in three days, closing up slightly. japanese exporters got a boost in the currency markets to reign in the appreciation of the yen. in china, the shanghai composite was up on speculation the federal reserve may introduce qe3 to stimulate the world's largest economy. ali, i have no doubt you will cover that sto. >>> we'll pick up what you said about the yen in just a moment. nina, let's first talk about what's going on in italy. a long speech by the prime minister yesterday warning that things are not as bad as markets seem to be treating them in italy. some serious problems. >> yes, absolutely, ali. silvio berlusconi made a

ali mentioned 8:00 p.m.rt watching japan and australia, but tomorrow, could it bounce back? >> well, it could, but we have a big number tomorrow. >> yeah, and let's hope we get lucky. that's what we need right now, a little positive luck, but we've had negative gdp number. it doesn't necessarily mean we're going to get a negative employment number, but a lot of people will be watching tomorrow. >> teddy, we are 90 seconds away, 90 seconds just about here from the closing bell. we're going to take that live. ali velshi, i think you made a great point earlier, and teddy made the point about looking at washington, and people are vexed at what happened, this back-and-forth bickering, even though the debt deal was done, it's sort of the hangover, the europe, japan, all of this -- >> it's frustration all around with a economic that isn't moving as quickly as we'd like it to do. the u.s. did itself no favors and did the world no favors with this protracted debt negotiations. we can't pin it all on that, but the fac

, ali knows this certainly well. if the credit markets freeze up, then we are heading back to 2008 when a simple loss of a bank caused the crisis. >> that's right, we will be heading back to 2008 if the credit markets freeze up. >> do you see any evidence of the freeze up yet? >> no, i haven't seen any evidence, but based on the way the prices of stocks are moving, i would say that there is a big concern with that. >> finally, and for viewers watching, i want to know, these people want to know, everybody wants to know, is this serious? or is just a wall street manufactured crisis? >> this is not a manufactured crisis by wall street. this is serious. you know, the country faces a lot of on stbstacles going forw. we seem to not have a lot of leadership in washington. they seem to be three steps behind the 8-ball always. at a time when we need everyone to get together and come up with a plan, it's politics as usual in washington. >> mike, thank you very much. i appreciate it. you know in that one sentence, mike has summ

ali velshi is standing by, richard quest is here as well. ali, you're in new york. is it a done deal now? do you believe that now that -- assuming the house and senate pass what the president said is an agreement that america's aaa credit rating will remain firm? >> mixed views on that. we spoke to mark zandy earlier today from moody's economy, he said yes, this deal is big aenough that it will avert a downgrade. bill gross from pimco, largest bond dealer in the world said probably not. but remember what ben bernanke said -- a long time ago. he said you don't actually have to have a bond rating agency. all you have to do is read a newspaper to know that the u.s. has got debt problems. so it is not clear whether the downgrade is going to be as important as the u.s.' ability to show the rest of the world that it will not use this as a bargaining chip for obligations it's already made. i think that's the bigger problem here. the second thing, wolf, that's very important to consider is that the most important thing to the recovery of the u.s. economy right now is jobs.

so, ali and alison, ali, maybe you can weigh in on this. it's like groundhog day.re again looking at these horrible numbers. >> yeah. >> and talking about, alison pointed out, staying home from vacation to watch our 401(k)s plummet. for the average viewer watching the numbers and they are, as she says, it's not panic, it's fear, they're afraid of what's happening to their money. what do people like you and me need to do? >> okay. this is -- the good question, kyra. i'm just going to take this out because i'm still having audio problems. the stock market is here, right? and over time, unless the world turns upside-down and it's not going to do that. even if there's a recession the stock market will go to here. that's what the stock market does over time. but when you zoom into little windows like we're in right now what you see is a lot of this. it's very frustrating but ultimately we bounce around for a little while and then something gets fixed and we start to move. this is in the worst we've ever seen, in the great depression, and in the recession that we saw in

finally today, ali, wantedo

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to you first, ali. america's aaa credit rating will remain firm?s on that we spoke to mark from moody's economy, he said this deal is big enough to avoid a downgrade. the largest bond dealer said probably not. he said, you don't necessarily have a bond rating agency, all you have to do is read a newspaper it. is not clear if the down grade will be as important as the u.s.'s ability that it won't use it as a bargaining chip for obligations made. the second thing that is important to krrp is that most important thing to the recovery of the u.s. economy is jobs. this doesn't do anything to help job creation. probably does something to hurt job creation, that in the long run, may be dangerous then not having this deal in the first place. out three years and five years t may not have been the right thing to do. everybody is doing a victory lap, i don't think it is that good of a deal. >> a deal is a deal. at least the united states won't default on tuesday or wednesday. >> that is true. that is a good deal. >> very important news for people who were wor

so i agree with ali on that.m saying is they should be focused on making sure we get our deficits under control and it's not their job to say how much of that should be done through entitlement reforms, through defense and other spending cuts, through revenue increases. that's not their job. but the fact that they have a democracy that plays out in the way that it did is very relevant. it lessens their confidence in being able to make the difficult choices. >> chrystia? >> i would like to point back to david's point. the s&p, they are not god, for sure. this is just an opinion. but their job is to give an opinion on the credit worthiness of companies and countries and part of their judgment on the credit worthiness is about how the country's budget is put together and if their judgment is more refer knew is part of what makes the economy stronger and we shouldn't be afraid to say that. >> already there is policies going on about this. a lot of people, what does this actually mean? is there a possibility of a grow

i'm ali velshi.ll street that dow posted the steepest one-day point drop since the financial crisis three years ago. job market numbers are released this morning. may and june, that's the where jobwise we were expecting. we expect they added 70,000 to 08,000 jobs in july, far her than what we need to get out of the pickle with the national unemployment rate of 9.2%. a all of the political drama, there could be more where that came from. 80% of americans are not happy, there could be political debts to pay. this is what kyle told pierce morgan. >> there's a case to be made that the economy we have now is going to be the economy come election day. we're not going to get anything done in the congress for 16 to 18 month. that bodes ill for anyone in power, not just the president but the senate. >> u.s. market tanked. the world markets tanked overnight. what about the 401(k)? to help to ease your fears, christine romans is here with us in new york. ease my fears, christine? >> i'm the good cop this mornin

this is ali velshi. we're interrupting our cnn national coverage of the trial of hosni mubarak, a story of historical significance unfolding at this very home in cairo. the deposed president of egypt on a stretcher in a cage in the courtroom, on charges of corruption and ordering the killings of protesters earlier this year. there you can see him. it's an extraordinary turn-around in the fortunes of hosni mubarak, from long-time iron-fisted ruler to inform, elderly defendant. he faces the death penalty if found guilty. cnn's mohammed jamjoom is in cairo and he joins us. what can you tell us about these developments? >> reporter: we can't stress enough just how historic this is. it's unprecedented a ruler like hosni mubarak, the deposed leader of egypt would be in that courtroom wearing a prisoner's uniform in a cage on a stretcher as a defendant. it's shocking to people here in egypt. many people we've spoken with today just didn't believe they would actually get to this point. they believed the trial mi

ali, are you listening?e should not pay so much close attention to what happens on one single day of trading. do you agree? >> i'd be happy to switch jobs with him. but unfortunately, we have to. robert, you have published ten points which look to me like the recipe for a plan to get people back to work. and i can't go into all the detail, but exempting the first 20,000 of income, recreating the wps to get long term unemployed back to work, creating an infrastructure bank, letting distressed homeowners declare bankruptcy. on and on. does this kind of big idea have any traction amongst people who are make decisions about what to do right now? >> right now i think in washington there is kind of an obsession as you pointed out on jon stewart's show with deficit reduction which may be over the long term a very important thing to do. but right now, it's the opposite of what we ought to do. in fact austerity in europe and the united states are exactly the reverse of what is needed when an economy is operating as t

for the next several months, ali.course, right now, you know, nothing is guaranteed for sure. but so the focus very much on the hill as these leaders try to rangle all of the votes and twist all of those arms. >> definitely not a done deal yet. looks like tell pass, but not a done deal. brianna, we'll be speaking to you through the course of the day. >>> zain verjee is live in london. britain's "sunday telegraph" says the suspect in the norway attacks used ebay to buy bomb-making chemicals and tools. >> reporter: how scary is that? the "sunday telegraph" did say that, giving more specifics about what exactly andres breivik was up to. they saw he got sulfur powder from ebay, that's what was used in making the bomb in oslo. a drill press, a hazmat suit, and some kind of a face respirator, as well. there's an investigation going on into this. ebay hasn't commented on this, but they say that they are cooperating with it. it's pretty scary to think it's easy to get the stuff out there like that and to use the name andrew b

ali. >> i'm going to go with sports betting. >> that is, ali.t being accounts for $350 billion in both legal and illegal betting, $100 billion more than lotteries. tied. i've saved face. finally. on my own turf i couldn't lose to you. >> so a score draw which is probably better than either the europeans or the american economy can do at the moment. that's it for "q&a" this week. join us each week and, of course, send us your questions. ali? >> and we'll be in "q&a" 2:00 p.m. eastern time. keep the questions come on our blogs. tell us each week what you want us to talk about. rich, see you next week. >> i'll see you next week when i'm back in london. >> and we'll see ali again in just a few minutes. he'll join us february at the top of the hour to talk more about the dow which is now down, as we look at the big board there, 326 points. not a good day on wall street. but before that, scientists have found a way to create new life. i'm not talking about humans but an alien life form. it is a first of its game, and we will explain it coming up. whil

ali called it irrational.k manufacturing, high unemployment, add in the political dysfunction in washington, there are serious policy and financial questions here and, again, it's our job to connect these dots. we are at 456 days to the 2012 presidential election. if you are the president of the united states who happens also to be a candidate for reelection, you're saying things as president to the country as the leader, you're also as a candidate thinking, if this continues, i'm in trouble. >> yeah. david gergen is watching what's been going on. he's been watching presidents for a long time. david, as we see the numbers, the drops on this day on the heels of significant drops over the past couple of weeks, the president, he's got a tough assignment right now in not only dealing with this but with what's going on in afghanistan. this was a very, very sensitive moment in his presidency. >> so tough. john king made the point, he's come off a terrible week as president. i feel sympathetic for him. but i continue

ask you what you're talking about but my goodness i mean you know it was not too long ago that ben ali was you know he was a guest in the white house and he's called a great friend of the united states ok i mean really i mean it's still a bit rich if i can use that term again right here bruce if i can go to you i mean all of america's friends i mean these are can i just say something all right go ahead finish it i want to go to something very quickly go ahead if bin ali you've been ali was still such a big friend of the united states or from you know western world generally speaking you probably if it was all about supporting. authoritarian regimes in the name of security interests or economic interests then you wouldn't be in the bike you would be in washington and going to parties ok let's say that well that seems to be the ultimate safe haven for. so you probably other dictators going there as well bruce if i can go to you i mean you can you have a dual policy like that i think in theory it sounds very nice but if you look at weeki leaks and you look at these other sources of inform

you made me watch. >> thanks, ali.>> the one danger a lot of people warn f they don't come to a deal, then those automatic cuts could be haphazard, automatic, may not be the best thing for the economy. this means you and me are going to be working christmas, is what it means. >> i'm used to that, that's okay. >> fun hanging out with you. >>> the fight over the debt ceiling isn't the only thing in washington. the house adjourned for the summer recess and failed to approve a bill to fund the federal aviation administration. the only possible resolution if the senate approves the bill that is unlikely. first, the federal government is expected to lose an estimated $1.2 billion in taxes on air fare. 4,000 workers will remain furloughed. these are mostly administrative positions, meaning air traffic control personnel are on the job and passenger safety should not be affectedp construction projects are on hold. because the government stopped collecting taxes on ticket sales delta will give refunds to passengers who paid the

around noon eastern time, ali, is the time we've been given. you know, that time slips, but at the end of the day, we're told it looks pretty good for the united states senate. this has been ugly and brutal and frankly it's not the last step. i mean it's the last step toward avoiding default but it's really only the beginning of this conversation on reducing spending that could be quite painful and difficult going forward. the house vote was dramatic in the sense that we're only hours away from the august 2nd deadlin deadline, but it was one ofs those famous sort of hold-your-nose vote almost for every lawmaker i spoke with, nobody liked this thing, not even the leadership. a lot of conservatives and republicans thought it didn't go far enough. a lot of democrats including liberals thought it goes way too far. you know, there's been so much made about the drama, if you will, of the vote over on the house side. by congressional standards, though, the drama of the moment was really just totally upstaged by the appearance of congresswoman gabriell

right jeff and i to go to you one of the things that happened when one of the reasons why ben ali was such a big friend of the americans in the west in general and any and we can look at what's going on in egypt and other countries in the region is because they are stanch allies on the war against terror ok and that's always. top of mind here and in the nonsense that spewed out about tears terror and that's terror in the you know just terrifying publics and western media and it does it all of the time and there these people are you know they may not be that you know thomas jeffersons but you know they are still going to be on our side isn't this really being shown is that complete exaggeration now because these tyrants created. a fundamentalist group of people that may be inclined to terrorism and things like that i mean the lack of supporting our own ideals and values have actually created these so-called threats against us. walking we talking about two different historical structures as well the immediacy of the cold war let's say. what the united states needed to do during the cold

you've been ali was still such a big friend of the united states or from the western world generally speaking you probably if it was all about importing authoritarian regimes in the name of security interests or economic interests then you wouldn't be in the bike it would be in washington and on the parties ok well this is not well that seems to be the ultimate safe haven for well. so you probably other dictators going there as well bruce if i can go to you i mean you can you have a dual policy like that i think in theory it sounds very nice but if you look at weeki leaks and you look at these other sources of information i mean the united states was going to be just stay with the people you know you have to stay with the devil you know work a and that's exactly what they did with the nisa and then they turn around and their entire democracy project blows up on them in lebanon though it's again against the will of the people there clearly i don't care what people think about hezbollah it is a popular. political party in the country it's up for the people to decide and not again it wi

to discuss democracy promotion i'm joined by teddy ali in paris he is a writer and filmmaker an arborist with we go to jeff purdue he is a post-doctoral fellow at the risk with university and author of american foreign policy and postwar reconstruction comparing japan in iraq and in durham we cross to bruce general since he was a professor of public policy and political science at duke university and another member of our cross talk e-mail and a hug or a gentleman crosstalk rules in effect that means you can jump in anytime you want take i'd like to go to you first in paris over the last two weeks. were saying events that we've never seen before in in the arab world i liken it to the end of the soviet union it is a world history or sturrock moment as we're doing this program events are books of folding extremely almost out of control in egypt so i ask you take what is america's track record in promoting democracy and expression is hot area right now in north africa and i'd like to name a few places. egypt lebanon jordan where there is democracy but it's not recognize hamas hizbollah so i

>> that's absolutely possible, ali. where are you going to go?s not easy to know right now where to put your money. the stock market is very volatile. are you going to go to europe with your money. >> that's volatile. there's only so much gold and that has risk. the chinese put the money in china instead of the united states? i don't think there will be a dramatic effect. but this is a very fragile moment. there's a lot of emotion, there's a lot of tension. and the biggest crisis right now, the biggest crisis is in the leadership, in europe, in the united states, and the public is losing confidence. this underscores it. that's going to make it harder to do the right things and to do the right things and contain the problem which we're going to have one way or the other. >> chrystia, christine said earlier the only way to get a clear rally on monday is if everybody involved in the political bickering were to come together and say, wow, this is serious, this is a real message, let's get it together and figure out how we get our aaa credit rating ba

i'm ali velshi. the market turmoil is not letting up.k another tumble this morning with the nikkei ending at its lowest level since march. experts fear the drop is just the beginning as standard & poor's downgrade just threw down the hammer. more downgrades are expected this week. the markets seem to be reflecting a sweeping feeling uncertainty of the financial future of the united states. the fear index has jumped to its highest level in years. stocks plummeted to its lowest since 2008. will it lead to a global recession? experts say it's possible. >> i think what is true is the risks of a recession have clearly gone up substantially. >> we actually have an economy that's going in the wrong direction now at a time when we need it to grow. it's starting to fall back. front page of the "new york times", double dip recession. >> one of the real problems what happened it spookd consumers. it could make people fearful and that can hasten a double dip. >> most experts believe the market shock won't last long term. now listen to this. nearly 1

ali?e other thing is, hugo chavez showed up and without his normal head of hair, he was sporting a hair do more like mine? >> i was just going to say that. >> yeah. >> he was. take a look at this picture. hugo chavez is calling it his new look. he has his hair down closely shaved. it's because he's got cancer and he's been undergoing chemotherapy but he's saying look at my new hair style. this means that i'm better and the chemotherapy is working. we don't know what kind of cancer, ali, that the venezuelan leader is suffering from but he had gone to cuba a few weeks ago in june to remove a cancerous tumor that was believed to be in his pelvis. we don't have more detail than that. >> the guy looks remarkably robust. while in cuba he and fidel castro were shown in their athletic wear, track suits like finishing a tennis match or going for a run. if he's trying to give off the image of robust and healthy, i think the hair, this hair style only helps. >> well, that's exactly right. he is tryin

please welcome to the program ali velshi. ( applause ) thank you for joining us. you. >> thank you, sir. good to be here. >> jon: explain to me, i watch television. the stock market, a terrible thing happened to the stock market. it went down 600 points on news of europe. then the next day from what i understand europe was still very similar to how it had been the day before. and it went up 500 points. then the next day it went down 450 points on news of something. and then the next day it went up 300. are they (beep) with us? >> you know, it's exactly right what you're saying because the companies that make up the stock market didn't change. they weren't worth 5% less the next day and they weren't worth 3% more after that. that's exactly right. the stock market is the collection of a value of underlying companies. that's what the judgment should be, but the stock market has been a barometer of how investors around the world kind of feel about the way things are going. that's the stuff you've seen over the last few weeks. >> jon: more of a mood ring. >> exactly. i

. >> good morning, ali. the initial relief over the resolution of the debt deadlock, that's given way to pessimism as they focus on the fundamentals and those are weak manufacturing data from the u.s. which exporters around here in asia and a strong yen which is hurting japanese exporters. it is a similar story in europe. all the gains yesterday, all in the reverse. it's a very weak session across the board. >> we got first quarter results yesterday -- or today, i guess, from toyota. we've been hearing from the major auto manufacturers in japan after the earthquake and tsunami. what's toyota looking like? >> yeah, i hate to say i've about got more gloomy news for you. toyota has just posts its first full quarterly result ares since the deadly earthquake and tsunami back in march. ali, the numbers don't look good at all. toyota made a net profit of $14 million in the first quarter. that's it. to put the number in per expect fiv for you, a year ago they posted $2.25 billion. >>> the next headline sounds like i

his name was ali. he was just 1 year old. >> he came up from al shabaab and it was so difficult to get out, it took them so long to get out, by the time they arrived there was nothing anybody could do for him. he died two hours ago. >> this child has just died? >> yes. >> what will they do now? >> they don't have enough money to bury him. they are sitting and hoping that someone will come. in this situation, nobody has any money but they hope together people try to put money in together when things like this happen and they can raise the funds, otherwise they have no means of burying him. >> they have already lost their two other children. ali was the only child they had left. what will they do now? >> they said they don't know. for them the most important thing is to try to find a way to bury the child and then they'll try to figure out what they can do here. they have nothing here. the only reason they took the risk was to save the baby and now the baby is dead. >> you have seen a lot of this over th

i think ali had it exactly right. you know, for two years, we've tried a number of short-term stimulus measures to try to get our economy growing again. the markets have now figured out that those have not led to learn economic growth. so people are scared. when people are scared, they save more, they spend less, corporations invest less, they retrench and that can become a self-fulfilling prophesy. what's happening in washington is making a bad situation worse because it's hurting confidence, and that could tip us into recession. >> the morgan stanley report mentioned the policy errors in both the united states and europe led to the global downgrade. is this then a crisis caused by politics rather than straightforward economics? >> it absolutely is. that's the one kind of big difference from this crisis, if we're to call it a crisis yet. and back in 2008 when it was directly the result of, you know, the greedy bankers and all that. this past week or two of this volatility was really specifically due to the gridlock t

i'm ali velshi. this next hour is dedicated to setting aside the panic and giving you a straightforward look at what's happening right now with your honor money. let's start with ken rogoff, christine romans is the host of "your bottom line." and chrystia freeland is an editor at thompson reuters digital. ken, tell us what this means. s&p said it may downgrade the u.s. and it did it. it took us from aaa to aa-plus. what does that mean? >> well, it's a huge thing. this hasn't happened in the history of the united states. we have defaulted maybe in 1933. but since they started having the rating agencies, this hasn't happened and it's pretty shocking. my concern is not so much the professional investors but what about the man on the street? are they going to panic about this? is there going to be a broader effect that we don't expect? >> what do you think about that? what do you think? it's hard to make that connection. it's hard to tell people who are watching us right now that your credit card rates a

ali velshi, i'll start with you with the usual. what is going on, ali? >> look, we started off the day this morning with a rough night in asia. european markets on news that, you know, the german economy, the strongest in europe has weakened to almost a stall, the french economy, absolutely no growth in the quarter. that took u.s. markets downright off the top. but before that, more than 12 hours ago, we got a report from morgan stanley to say what we've all been saying, global economies are slowing down, that they were on the -- we're dangerously close to a recession, we may need more intervention in europe from the european central bank and more from the fed. and you know, you've been talking about this, piers, that rick perry said that we can't have more intervention. in fact, if the fed were to intervene, it would be treasonous, it's that whole set-up, what are we going to do if things are really bad? we have no political agreement in this country. and add a few economic reports and i won't bore you with right now that came out again before markets o

ali, what's the situation there? >> all right, anderson, i'm getting about the same amount of rain where you are in manhattan. what i don't have is the wind tunnels because i'm on the east river. there's brooklyn, john king is way out on long island over there. this is pier 17 which a lot of people will know as the south street seaport. i've been watching the east river since i got here. within the last half hour or so it's gone up about 6 inches or so. we're 3 hours, 2 1/2 hours from high tide. it could go up anyway. we're not getting any of the storage surge. we're probably about 2 feet from the riverbank at this point on the east river. this is of major concern. new york has the largest electrical system on the continent. and about 90,000 miles of cable are underground. this is what the problem is going to be. we already know as you said, close to 75,000 or 80,000 people in the new york air, that area serviced by consolidated edison, con ed. there are about 86,000 miles of overhead power cable. we saw trees down,

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>> i think ali is spot on. you think back to just before the huge selloff and volatility last week, we had our own numbers that showed we had almost no growth. we have a new manufacturing number today, a regional manufacturing number that really hit investors hard. some analysts say it's a reliable number because it's a fresher number. this number is about manufacturing in august. the index was actually at one of the low points, and the drop was what analysts call stunning and saying it never has been this low without leading to a recession. when you hear things like that, especially with manufacturing considered one of the engines of growth in this country, that's also why you see investors sell at this point. what you are really seeing play out is a culmination, not just the data here in the u.s., but the data or lack there of coming out of europe as well. >> thank you both. we will be checking back with you. >>> another major story developing right now, after months of bloodshed in syria president obama for

in terms of -- are there a lot of police where you are, ali? we have seen a heavy police presence throughout the city, a lot of patrol cars going around and checking to make sure things are in order. >> reporter: i am looking straight down south street to the tip of manhattan basically, and basically where the south seaport is, there's a staging, workers and police, and that's the area they are most focused on because that's where they can see the fun rvulnerabilities. i have not seen anything but police presence and media. i have seen people try to make the turn and stop where i am and reverse and go back out. it's definitely becoming impassable for vehicles but mostly it's police out here. >> ali, we will continue to check in with you but we will take a break and the coverage will continue in a moment. more. i put myself through nursing school, and then i decided to go get a doctorate degree. university of phoenix gave me the knowledge to make a difference in people's lives. my name is dr. kimberly horton. i manage a network of over a thousan